Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?

[Big Bend Texas]

Oh' it's only socialism when poor people need government $$$?

You have no clue.

Well one of us doesn't that's for sure.

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Socialism, American Heritage Dictionary 5th Edition.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

So, in the US you either have the $$$ or you don't, for advanced education.

Next to impossible in the US too but it can be done, Europe is no exception.

"SO" that was the question asked and I answered it.

There's more ways to go to college free in the US than anyone ever imagined just 20 years ago. Pick the right field and the gov't will pay back all your student loans.

Anyone that can enlist in the Armed Services can go for free as well and get paid while they do it.

 

[BS Filter]

It's not denial. I just don't know WTF you're talking about. No need to quote anything. Just say it.

goddam jerks

Not knowing what people are talking about seems to be your problem. What do you do for a living?

 

[Smokin' OP]

What he paid in taxes or didn't nor his golfing habits have anything at all to do with socialism.

If the loser doesn't pay taxes yet gets government handouts, that is socialism.

I don't see you getting knotted up over Biden running home to Delaware every weekend

98 miles and he doesn't use AF1 to do it.
Pales in comparison to Trump using AF1 to fly to Palm Beach or Bedminster at $3 million per trip.

or over Obama's jet set vacationing while he was in in the WH.

Obama took 328 vacation days in eight years (this includes 39 visits to Camp David).
Trump took 307 vacation days in four years.

Perks of the job are not "socialism".

It is when you take advantage, like Trump.

 

[Smokin' OP]

"SO" that was the question asked and I answered it.

No, you didn't.
You made a comment, merely 15 post ago.

"But, you have a choice. You are FREE to strike out on your own, go into business for yourself, that way, you have no bosses but you have to haggle a lot."

"The point being, here you have a choice. There you don't"

There's more ways to go to college free in the US than anyone ever imagined just 20 years ago. Pick the right field and the gov't will pay back all your student loans.

So, some people can't afford to go to college, they might have family to support, like Europe.

Anyone that can enlist in the Armed Services can go for free as well and get paid while they do it.

You can do the same in Europe.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No, you didn't.
You made a comment, merely 15 post ago.

"But, you have a choice. You are FREE to strike out on your own, go into business for yourself, that way, you have no bosses but you have to haggle a lot."

"The point being, here you have a choice. There you don't"

So, some people can't afford to go to college, they might have family to support, like Europe.

You can do the same in Europe.

Yes, that was your question about the educational system.

No, not anyone in Europe can do the same, you are tracked either for college, trade/technical in the first year of HS there.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yes, that was your question about the educational system.

No, not anyone in Europe can do the same, you are tracked either for college, trad/technical in the first year of HS there.

Yes, they have choices, colleges to attend, what trade they want, or open their own business.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Yes, they have choices, colleges to attend, what trade they want, or open their own business.

Keep that goal post on wheels.

They don't get to jump the track unless they can afford a private education.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Keep that goal post on wheels.

They don't get to jump the track unless they can afford a private education.

WTF?
You're FOS.
Europeans DO NOT dictate what college or career path you can take.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Instead of being a rude ass, you could just reflect on the fact that in every society through all time there has never been a society with anywhere near 100% employment. In the US we have a population of 330 million and a workforce of about half that at 157 million. There are many reasons some people do not produce anything for anyone. Think about it, or must I pedantically detail it out for you?

Get off your ass mooch and go support yourself.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Ok so you don't know what documentation is. Let's try this then... maybe I can draw something useful out of you...

If communist society would be slavery, who would be the slave master?

Politicians and their puppet masters.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

WTF?
You're FOS.
Europeans DO NOT dictate what college or career path you can take.

Yes they do based on your tests generally given in the equivalent of our Freshman Year. You go on the college path, or Tech/Trade school routes from there.

To change tracks later you don't have the prerequisites to even apply to college without going to a private school to get them.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Instead of being a rude ass, you could just reflect on the fact that in every society through all time there has never been a society with anywhere near 100% employment. In the US we have a population of 330 million and a workforce of about half that at 157 million. There are many reasons some people do not produce anything for anyone. Think about it, or must I pedantically detail it out for you?

Other than laziness which is growing exponentially we have retirement and disability for those not working.

The lazy and those who fail to plan for retirement get no sympathy.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Funny how socialists never mention all the taxes and income tax rate when they're spouting the wonderful benefits of socialism.

Of course not, they want the benefits but would squeal like stuck pigs if they had to pay the same taxes.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

If the loser doesn't pay taxes yet gets government handouts, that is socialism.

98 miles and he doesn't use AF1 to do it.
Pales in comparison to Trump using AF1 to fly to Palm Beach or Bedminster at $3 million per trip.

Obama took 328 vacation days in eight years (this includes 39 visits to Camp David).
Trump took 307 vacation days in four years.


It is when you take advantage, like Trump.

Obama sent the wife and kids to Paris from London via AF1 just for a shopping spree.

Trump took 307 vacation days in four years.

This of course is simply a lie, going home for the weekend is not a vacation, the president is still working.

If the loser doesn't pay taxes yet gets government handouts, that is socialism.

Perks of the job are not "Socialism" read the definition you moron.

 

[scruffy]

WTF?
You think Europeans can't choose what they want to do for a living?

Whoosh.

Missed the point.

It's okay.

 

[scruffy]

Givers and takers.
A lot of people pay taxes so this lazy, fat fuck can golf for almost a year of his presidency.

And the tall skinny fuck before him, and the doofus monkey looking fuck before him. What's your point?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

And the tall skinny fuck before him, and the doofus monkey looking fuck before him. What's your point?

It's an obsession.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yes they do based on your tests generally given in the equivalent of our Freshman Year. You go on the college path, or Tech/Trade school routes from there.

The US has the same thing, it's an aptitude test, questions designed to determine a suitable career path.

NOT dictate, if you are not interested in your father's career, you don't have to enter the field.

To change tracks later you don't have the prerequisites to even apply to college without going to a private school to get them.

To college.

You can study and have a degree as a pharmacist, that doesn't mean you can't open a welding shop.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The US has the same thing, it's an aptitude test, questions designed to determine a suitable career path.

NOT dictate, if you are not interested in your father's career, you don't have to enter the field.

To college.

You can study and have a degree as a pharmacist, that doesn't mean you can't open a welding shop.

No we don't. Aptitude tests are used to guide you, they do not trap you in a track you can't get out of.

You are thrashing about desperately now.