Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Exactly. Only when it's necessary. I bet that breaks your brain, eh?

AND.............WHO determines THAT?
A representative of the people.
That really breaks your brain, you thought you came up with something clever that's been 'discovered" already.

True story. Believe it or not, some of us haven't signed on to your two party death spiral.

So, you throw away your vote every year?

But don't worry, Trumpsters are just as confused as you. And I know how much it comforts you to be part of a group.

So, clear up this confusion with your wisdom of a Mad Max society?

Just think, when you get your wet dream, and government controls health care,

They don't.
Corporations do.

Republicans can eviscerate that too! Go team!

They have since Reagan.

Republicans are bad, mkay?

YES.
Since John Birch.

Sad. It seems the best you got is "but Republicans!"

Sad.
It seems all you have is Mad Max.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

They aren't growing. RW propaganda is growing.

There are about 2 million fewer people in the job force today than Pre Covid and Covid Money.

If those people hadn't chosen the lazy path they'd be out there hustling again.

The more freebies you throw out the more people will cease to be willing to put out the effort to support themselves and their families. We've been seeing that proven true every year since the WOP bean in 65.

Trillions thrown down a rat hole with poverty rates remaining almost flat since 66.

 

[dblack]

AND.............WHO determines THAT?

The Courts, via the Constitution. This is basic civics stuff.

So, you throw away your vote every year?

Nope. In fact I refuse to throw my vote away on your shitty candidates. If you want my vote you'll have to do better

So, clear up this confusion with your wisdom of a Mad Max society?

They're just as simple minded as you. They assume that anyone who disagrees with them is a Democrat.

They don't. Corporations do.

I said "when", dipshit. When government controls health care, and Republicans regain control, they'll **** with it in ways you don't like. But you won't let yourself even think about that. Ostrich up!

Listen, as long as you insist on denial as your go to debate strategy, you're no better than the delusional Trumpsters. As long as you dutifully ignore any concerns that conflict with your talking points, then I'll treat you as nothing more than a troll

 

[dblack]

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LOL - yep. That's the person you want to put in charge of your health care. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[ScorpioRising007]

What an interesting blog article on American ideas about civil responsibility and the knee jerk reaction of Americans generally, and Conservatives specifically, to fear community welfare and immediately associate it with socialism or communism. It led to her asking “What are you so afraid of?”, and she received 5 specific groups of fears:

1. I’m scared of having to pay for other people’s laziness
2. I’m scared because I don’t trust my government or other people generally
3. I’m scared because socialism leads to authoritarianism
4. I’m scared because socialists and communists kill a lot of people
5. I’m not scared, socialism always fails

She has some good responses to these fears that I can’t do just to for a short attention span. Read the link if you want. I think these fears keep America from being a great and caring nation.

Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
I went a little bit viral on TikTok recently for voicing the unthinkable: I said that I like paying taxes. As you might imagine, the Americans and Conservatives in my comment section were shocked and appalled. The words communist and socialist were thrown around like insults, images of gulags and famine were invoked to prove some kind of vague and poorly-articulated point about freedom.

In contrast, the (predominantly western/northern) Europeans seemed to find my explanation pretty fair and even stopped to correct me on some of the finer points of Scottish, Scandinavian and German socialist democracy.

What shocked me, however, was not that so many Americans and Conservatives seemed to misunderstand fundamental aspects of civil life — like taxation — but that so many seemed so vehemently opposed to any suggestion that we should all contribute to the collective welfare of our countrymen.

Curiosity piqued, yesterday I made the mistake of asking Americans and Conservatives: “What is it about communism/socialism that scares you?” Here’s what they said.

Yep I have been saying America would be so much better off moving to more socialism for years.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The Courts, via the Constitution. This is basic civics stuff.

Nope. In fact I refuse to throw my vote away on your shitty candidates. If you want my vote you'll have to do better

They're just as simple minded as you. They assume that anyone who disagrees with them is a Democrat.

I said "when", dipshit. When government controls health care, and Republicans regain control, they'll **** with it in ways you don't like. But you won't let yourself even think about that. Ostrich up!

Listen, as long as you insist on denial as your go to debate strategy, you're no better than the delusional Trumpsters. As long as you dutifully ignore any concerns that conflict with your talking points, then I'll treat you as nothing more than a troll

Whole lot of assumption absent any actual facts in the above.

Typical but still disappointing.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

LOL - yep. That's the person you want to put in charge of your health care. Stupid is as stupid does.

The idiots are those who don't know about things like pulmonary lavage or pulmonary UV bronchoscopy and the US of Iodine both IV and internally to treat lesions and infections, who pontificate about how stupid such things are.

But hey, talking points are all you dem's have.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The Courts, via the Constitution. This is basic civics stuff.

Ummm, it's already been done.
Basic civics stuff.
Representatives of the people propose laws, the constitution and courts decide if they are legal.
SOOOO, you have NOTHING.

Nope. In fact I refuse to throw my vote away on your shitty candidates. If you want my vote you'll have to do better

I'm sure they are heartbroken.

They're just as simple minded as you. They assume that anyone who disagrees with them is a Democrat.

When you repeat the same talking points?
If it talks like a duck.............................................

You must be one of those self proclaimed "conservatives"?

I said "when", dipshit. When government controls health care, and Republicans regain control, they'll **** with it in ways you don't like. But you won't let yourself even think about that. Ostrich up!

BS.
Republicans already have, of course they want corporations to control it, they have for years.

May 25 2011
Republicans on Wednesday, with few exceptions, stuck by their plan to privatize the Medicare health program for the elderly.
Paul Ryan, Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Budget Committee and chief architect of the plan, said sweeping changes are needed in Medicare to protect it from financial ruin.

“We can no longer let politicians in Washington deny the danger to Medicare -- the danger is all too real -- and the health of our nation’s seniors is far too important,” Ryan said in an Internet video.

The proposal would end traditional fee-for-service Medicare and create a voucher-like system for future retirees to buy medical coverage from private insurers.

Just like in Vietnam "We have to destroy the village to save it".

March 17 2015
House Republicans will unveil a proposed budget Tuesday that would drastically reshape the federal government by privatizing Medicare and repealing ObamaCare, a report said.

The ambitious agenda, which uses the policy prescriptions of Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, aims to slash federal spending and balance the budget within 10 years.

October 10 2017
Congressional Republicans are moving full speed ahead to gut Medicare, with no interest in honoring Trump’s repeated campaign promise not to touch Medicare. Senate Republicans now propose to slash billions of dollars from Medicare, the plan is to cut $450 billion from Medicare over 10 years.

The U.S. Republican-controlled House also wants massive Medicare cuts. On October 5, the House passed a cut to Medicare of almost $500 billion in its fiscal 2018 budget resolution.

Listen, as long as you insist on denial as your go to debate strategy, you're no better than the delusional Trumpsters. As long as you dutifully ignore any concerns that conflict with your talking points, then I'll treat you as nothing more than a troll

You have NOTHING but "Government bad".
Just like republicans.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

LOL - yep. That's the person you want to put in charge of your health care. Stupid is as stupid does.

You're nuts.

These are the people you wish to remain in charge.

May 21 2021
Covid-19 vaccines have created at least nine new billionaires after shares in companies producing the shots soared.

Topping the list of new billionaires are Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and Ugur Sahin, the CEO of BioNTech, which has produced a vaccine with Pfizer. Both CEOs are now worth around $4 billion.

Senior executives from China’s CanSino Biologics and early investors in Moderna have also become billionaires on paper as shares skyrocketed, partly in expectation of profits earned from Covid vaccines.

February 10 2022
Republican Mike Crapo of Idaho blocked Sen. Bernie Sanders' attempt Wednesday to force a vote on legislation that would slash prescription drug prices, thwarting the Vermont senator's effort to fast-track the new bill as the pharmaceutical industry rushes to hike costs in the new year.

The attempt by Sanders and Klobuchar to hold a vote on their standalone drug-price legislation came as pharmaceutical firms—which lobbied aggressively against the Build Back Better package—continued to raise the costs of medications that treat a range of serious conditions, from cancer to heart disease to HIV.

An analysis released last week by Patients for Affordable Drugs showed that pharma companies have increased the prices of 742 medications so far this year.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The idiots are those who don't know about things like pulmonary lavage or pulmonary UV bronchoscopy and the US of Iodine both IV and internally to treat lesions and infections, who pontificate about how stupid such things are.

But hey, talking points are all you dem's have.

No, they don't but know people who do.

Trumptards, on the other hand listen to facebook, twitter, dentist, podcasters, RW bloggers, pastors, and their "president".

Like asking your waitress how to do a valve job on your vehicle.

 

[dblack]

Ummm, it's already been done.
Basic civics stuff.
Representatives of the people propose laws, the constitution and courts decide if they are legal.
SOOOO, you have NOTHING.

I'm sure they are heartbroken.

When you repeat the same talking points?
If it talks like a duck.............................................

You must be one of those self proclaimed "conservatives"?


BS.
Republicans already have, of course they want corporations to control it, they have for years.

May 25 2011
Republicans on Wednesday, with few exceptions, stuck by their plan to privatize the Medicare health program for the elderly.
Paul Ryan, Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Budget Committee and chief architect of the plan, said sweeping changes are needed in Medicare to protect it from financial ruin.

“We can no longer let politicians in Washington deny the danger to Medicare -- the danger is all too real -- and the health of our nation’s seniors is far too important,” Ryan said in an Internet video.

The proposal would end traditional fee-for-service Medicare and create a voucher-like system for future retirees to buy medical coverage from private insurers.

Just like in Vietnam "We have to destroy the village to save it".

March 17 2015
House Republicans will unveil a proposed budget Tuesday that would drastically reshape the federal government by privatizing Medicare and repealing ObamaCare, a report said.

The ambitious agenda, which uses the policy prescriptions of Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, aims to slash federal spending and balance the budget within 10 years.

October 10 2017
Congressional Republicans are moving full speed ahead to gut Medicare, with no interest in honoring Trump’s repeated campaign promise not to touch Medicare. Senate Republicans now propose to slash billions of dollars from Medicare, the plan is to cut $450 billion from Medicare over 10 years.

The U.S. Republican-controlled House also wants massive Medicare cuts. On October 5, the House passed a cut to Medicare of almost $500 billion in its fiscal 2018 budget resolution.


You have NOTHING but "Government bad".
Just like republicans.

Ostrich up! Be sure and block out all those things you don't wanna think about.

 

[dblack]

You're nuts.

These are the people you wish to remain in charge.

That's not the point and you know it. But you go on ignoring the obvious. Keep your head squarely yup your ass, where it belongs

May 21 2021
Covid-19 vaccines have created at least nine new billionaires after shares in companies producing the shots soared.

Topping the list of new billionaires are Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and Ugur Sahin, the CEO of BioNTech, which has produced a vaccine with Pfizer. Both CEOs are now worth around $4 billion.

Senior executives from China’s CanSino Biologics and early investors in Moderna have also become billionaires on paper as shares skyrocketed, partly in expectation of profits earned from Covid vaccines.

February 10 2022
Republican Mike Crapo of Idaho blocked Sen. Bernie Sanders' attempt Wednesday to force a vote on legislation that would slash prescription drug prices, thwarting the Vermont senator's effort to fast-track the new bill as the pharmaceutical industry rushes to hike costs in the new year.

The attempt by Sanders and Klobuchar to hold a vote on their standalone drug-price legislation came as pharmaceutical firms—which lobbied aggressively against the Build Back Better package—continued to raise the costs of medications that treat a range of serious conditions, from cancer to heart disease to HIV.

An analysis released last week by Patients for Affordable Drugs showed that pharma companies have increased the prices of 742 medications so far this year.

Republicans bad, mkay?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Ostrich up! Be sure and block out all those things you don't wanna think about.

Ostrich up yourself.
You keep repeating what you don't like about the government but the courts and constitution ARE part of the government, whose overseers just happen to be politicians.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That's not the point and you know it. But you go on ignoring the obvious. Keep your head squarely yup your ass, where it belongs

Then what IS your ******* point?
SEE ABOVE.

Republicans bad, mkay?

Yes, I know.

 

[dblack]

Ostrich up yourself.

Nope. That's your job.

You keep repeating what you don't like about the government but the courts and constitution ARE part of the government, whose overseers just happen to be politicians.

You're a partisan tool and a troll. You ignore facts and concerns that don't suit your agenda - flat out pretend that aren't real - just like you're counterparts in Trumplandia.

 

[dblack]

Then what IS your ******* point?
SEE ABOVE

"See above" is a damned good start. Read the stuff you ignored the first time through.