Zone1 Where Does God, Anywhere, Endorse the Homosexual Lifestyle?

[norwegen]

never mind

carry on

you don't get it.

Alright, I'll carry on. The OP also elaborates with mention of Jesus, the Bible, and the gospels. Any eight-year-old knows the subject of this thread.

You're the one who doesn't get it. You just rehash that same tired question - "which God?" - when the answer was already given.

 

[Cougarbear]

Ok what makes you think you know what Jesus would do? When have I ever supported harming children or the LGBTQ movement , you imbecile ?

I am one of the Lord’s Saints…

 

[tahuyaman]

I am one of the Lord’s Saints…

If you really think that, you are the opposite.

 

[tahuyaman]

If Jesus did not disown hiw own Judaic Bible, then he too was a monster. Just read what the old HEbrews celebrated .. slaughtering men, women, children, and bathing on teh bllod running through te streets. But hey, their god had to get a place of his own.

You’re ignorant. Not worth the time.

 

[tahuyaman]

The post is about the term 'Magadonians' and people who believe America is a great country are repulsed by pathetic populist bullcrap.

Gibberish

 

[TruthNotBS]

I am one of the Lord’s Saints…

If you're not living in a community with other Christians, holding all things in common, you're not a disciple. You have to be willing to lay it all down, or you're just fooling yourself.

 

[tahuyaman]

People don't agree on/with 'god' the minute one asks the two very simple, clarifying questions I did:
What god? Whose god?

Gibberish

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus is not the god of Israel. Of Abraham

"Before Abraham was, I Am" -- Jesus

Now who else identifies Himself as "I Am"?

You may not understand what He was saying, by the Jewish leaders did. So much so that they wanted to kill Him

 

[Dadoalex]

Please stop mistaking what I write. I was very clear that those who chose to go against Father in Heaven’s plan never got to earth with a physical earthly body. They were sent in the earth as spirit devils never to receive an earthly physical body. Anyone in the pre-earth life who said they would defy God’s commandments against homosexuality and transsexual behavior never made it here as a human. Clear enough?

Yes, yes I do.
You are a loon.

 

[Dadoalex]

No. why do you think you know what Jesus would do?

I'm pretty sure he would do unto others as he would have them do unto him.
But I could be wrong.

 

[Dadoalex]

That was pretty stupid. Try again.

Pretty sure it was right on the mark.
It ID'd the stupid.
You were expecting the stupid to look like Einstein, maybe?

 

[tahuyaman]

I'm pretty sure he would do unto others as he would have them do unto him.
But I could be wrong.

Jesus was not shy about calling out sin. While he condemned sin, he loved the sinner.

 

[tahuyaman]

Pretty sure it was right on the mark.
It ID'd the stupid.
You were expecting the stupid to look like Einstein, maybe?

No. It was stupid.

 

[Leo123]

God made them.

Are you saying you hate God's creations?

God made lots of shit. Some of it really sucks too.

 

[tahuyaman]

Yes, yes I do.
You are a loon.

There’s a great example of irony

 

[toobfreak]

God made them. Are you saying you hate God's creations?

God made Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer and Mao Ze Dong too. Surely, you must love god's creations!

 

[hjmick]

He doesn't. There is only condemnation and followers of Israel God are COMMANDED to avoid anything outside of male/female marriage

• The argument that Jesus said nothing about homosexuality in the gospels is misleading and illogical for at least five reasons:

1. The gospels are not more authoritative than those books of the Bible that condemn homosexual behavior. All authors of Scripture were inspired by God’s Holy Spirit.7
2. The gospels are not comprehensive. Some of the Bible’s most important teachings—the explanation of spiritual gifts, the Priesthood of Christ, the doctrine of man’s old and new nature—appear in other books of the Bible.
3. The gospels do not claim to be a complete account of Jesus’ life or teachings. Sections of Jesus’ life are not discussed in the gospels and we cannot be certain that Jesus never spoke about homosexual behavior.
4. Scripture teaches that Jesus kept all the Law and affirmed all that the Law and the Prophets taught.8Undoubtedly, this would have included the affirmation of committed, monogamous male-female marriage and an unwavering condemnation of homosexual behavior. Given that all first century orthodox Jews would have held to this standard, the question of affirming homosexuality would not have been open to discussion in Jesus’ day.
5. Jesus clearly referred to heterosexuality as a standard. He specifically described God’s created intent for human sexuality: “

So... we're pretending that if there is a GOD he actually wrote the bible? As opposed to men writing it in an effort to control the masses?

 

[Dadoalex]

Add the porn, lack of good parenting, the "straight shaming" and pooping of the "wokeness" culture that these young people are living in, and that all contribute to the loss of self-control and sexual depravities. We're living in an extremely sexually sick and perverted society. All of that leads to a 20% homosexual orientation rate.

Due to Christendom being composed mostly of disobedient, fake disciples of Christ, it must suffer along with the wicked. So if the children of the vile and worldly are conditioned from childhood to be wicked, the children of "Christians" are also raised to be corrupt. If there's an economic collapse, the supposed Christians or the earthly body of Jesus Christ, is also deprived and in scarcity, unable to bear witness to a fallen world, of the light of love, truth, purity, and abundance that shines in God's Kingdom. Most "Christians" refuse to live as Christ commanded His disciples to live in this fallen world:

Act 2:42-47 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' teaching and fellowship, in the breaking of bread and the prayers. (43) And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. (44) And all that believed were together, and had all things common; (45) and they sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all, according as any man had need. (46) And day by day, continuing stedfastly with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread at home, they took their food with gladness and singleness of heart, (47) praising God, and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to them day by day those that were saved.

Act 4:32-37 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and soul: and not one of them said that aught of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. (33) And with great power gave the apostles their witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. (34) For neither was there among them any that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, (35) and laid them at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto each, according as any one had need. (36) And Joseph, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas (which is, being interpreted, Son of exhortation), a Levite, a man of Cyprus by race, (37) having a field, sold it, and brought the money and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Joh 17:21-23 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us: that the world may believe that thou didst send me. (22) And the glory which thou hast given me I have given unto them; that they may be one, even as we are one; (23) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that thou didst send me, and lovedst them, even as thou lovedst me.

Joh_15:17 These things I command you, that ye may love one another.

Joh_15:12 This is my commandment, that ye love one another, even as I have loved you.
Joh_15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Joh_15:9 Even as the Father hath loved me, I also have loved you: abide ye in my love.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Mar 10:28-31 Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. (29) Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or mother, or father, or children, or lands, for my sake, and for the gospel's sake, (30) but he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. (31) But many that are first shall be last; and the last first.

Luk 14:25-27 Now there went with him great multitudes: and he turned, and said unto them, (26) If any man cometh unto me, and hateth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. (27) Whosoever doth not bear his own cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Be not anxious for your life, what ye shall eat; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. (23) For the life is more than the food, and the body than the raiment. (24) Consider the ravens, that they sow not, neither reap; which have no store-chamber nor barn; and God feedeth them: of how much more value are ye than the birds! (25) And which of you by being anxious can add a cubit unto the measure of his life? (26) If then ye are not able to do even that which is least, why are ye anxious concerning the rest? (27) Consider the lilies, how they grow: they toil not, neither do they spin; yet I say unto you, Even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. (28) But if God doth so clothe the grass in the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more shall he clothe you, O ye of little faith? (29) And seek not ye what ye shall eat, and what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. (30) For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: but your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. (31) Yet seek ye his kingdom, and these things shall be added unto you. (32) Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. (33) Sell that which ye have, and give alms; make for yourselves purses which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief draweth near, neither moth destroyeth. (34) For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Mat 25:41-46 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels: (42) for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink; (43) I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. (44) Then shall they also answer, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? (45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not unto one of these least, ye did it not unto me. (46) And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.

Luk 14:34 Salt therefore is good: but if even the salt have lost its savor, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
Luk 14:35 It is fit neither for the land nor for the dunghill: men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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These are just a few of the many passages in the NT, that indicate that one of the primary tests of a true disciple of Jesus Christ, is his or her willingness to place everything at the foot of the cross. In other words, one's willingness to love his or her brother and sister to the point of laying it all down before their feet. The body of Jesus today here on earth is His church. The assembly of disciples who obey his commandments and live as He and His 12 apostles lived. The reason that Christians suffer all of the plagues and catastrophes of the world, is because they refuse to obey Jesus and His 12 apostles when it comes to economics and lifestyle.

The true disciples of Jesus Christ, build the Kingdom of YHWH, here on earth, providing a light to the nations. Their children aren't transgender, they don't have a 20% "gay rate" among their members, they don't need to wear a mask in the middle of a deadly pandemic in their worship services or daily lives, because they live together, and only leave their colonies (land, homes, facilities..etc), when they go on a mission-outreach to share the gospel, or they're on some type of official business trip on behalf of the church, or driving a truck, transporting goods from one colony to another, requiring a driver to stop to get fuel, maybe eat.

The children of YHWH, His disciples, and people are protected from all worldly disasters, with very few exceptions. With today's technology, the disciples can live in a very well-supplied and productive society, with a modern infrastructure, with its own off-grid electricity and water, medical facilities, factories, and mines.You name it. The world goes to poop, but the disciples of Jesus Christ live in YHWH's Kingdom, rather than under the devil's demonic system, providing that fallen world with a powerful testimony of the distinction between satanic culture and a divinely designed, Christ-Centered Culture.

That's why Jesus said:

Joh 17:21-23 (22) ...that they may be one, even as we are one; (23) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that thou didst send me, and lovedst them, even as thou lovedst me.

That the world may know that Christ has been sent and that YHWH loves His people. This satanic world will see the genuine Christians, the true disciples of Jesus Christ, living well, fully provisioned, without all of the problems that are plaguing them, in their secular, hedonistic, consumeristic, carnal society. In a way, Christians are supposed to live in a better world, that attracts those who are lost in Satan's kingdom. Church was never a building or a place you go to, to worship once a week or twice a week. The earthly body of Jesus Christ is a community of believers who obey Him and live out their lives in this world, together, as one.

Satan created Marxism as a perversion of the original, divine, angelic "communism". Evil communism, is godless, without the Holy Spirit, and the love of Christ. It's a demonic "utopia", but that's not what the body of Jesus is. It's rather similar to Noah's Ark. The Ark wasn't perfect, but it did the job. It saved Noah and his family, including all of the animals that were being cared for. The body of Jesus is a type of "Noah's Ark", and it's also YHWH's Tabernacle. His people are His Temple.

True born-again, spirit-filled Christians, yearn to be in each other's company, all of the time. It also develops our ability to forgive and overcome, because sooner or later, we'll be offended. Living in a tight-knit community, of believers, doesn't imply that you'll always get along with everyone and no one is going to offend you. Say or do something stupid. It's a test, allowing you to develop your character and overcome your bad temper, and bad habits. You're among your brethren in Christ. You live and work, with your brothers and sisters.

Unfortunately, "Christianity" today, amounts to a "belief system" without a way of life. Christianity was never supposed to be lived by a bunch of "lone rangers", pursuing their own personal agendas and interests. The "me, myself and I" doesn't fly in Christ's Kingdom. After the trait of martyrdom, being willing to die for the gospel, there's the attribute of detachment from one's worldly possessions and agenda.

That doesn't imply that you can't own personal property like the clothing that you wear or your toothbrush or Bible. You can own a smartphone or computer, in your apartment, but that computer and phone will have to be used within the rules of the community, which requires that all connections to the internet are filtered, to protect the brethren from porn. Phones and computers are checked without notice, a few times monthly, by brothers and sisters appointed to do that. If a person searches for porn, the community will be alerted. A Christian community can be generous, but we need to protect our community from worldly, demonic trash.

That's just an example, of how a Christian community functions in this fallen world. The church is not a weekly club, with nice programs for the kids. It was an actual body of believers sharing their lives together, as one mind and soul. Living and working together, holding all private property (lands, businesses, vehicles, machinery), in common. Christians living together as a family is what brings the world to Christ, convincing them that Jesus is real. The love that Christians have for one another, is lived in a real, tangible way.

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We got us a live one fellers!

Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals

A new analysis of implicit bias and explicit sexual orientation statements may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay bullying and hate crimes

www.scientificamerican.com

Quick question. settle a bet for us.
Do you happen to teach Bible classes to teens and preteens?

 

[tahuyaman]

How do you know God made them?

Do you think they just washed up on the beach?

God made Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer and Mao Ze Dong too. Surely, you must love god's creations!

why should I love them? But yes, God created them and gave them the gift of free will. What they did with that gift was evil. They are paying price for those evil deeds.

 

[tahuyaman]

So... we're pretending that if there is a GOD he actually wrote the bible? As opposed to men writing it in an effort to control the masses?

You’re not smart enough to participate in this discussion.