Zone1 Where Does God, Anywhere, Endorse the Homosexual Lifestyle?

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Do you think they just washed up on the beach?

why should I love them? But yes, God created them and gave them the gift of free will. What they did with that gift was evil. They are paying price for those evil deeds.Y
Hey! They're 'Beach People'
 
So... we're pretending that if there is a GOD he actually wrote the bible? As opposed to men writing it in an effort to control the masses?

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Yes. God wrote the Bible. Your belief is irrelevant. It doesn't affect anyones life if you believe or don't.

What's funny is that the non believers haunt this forum. I don't waste my time in forums dealing in subjects I don't believe in. Atheists do. That's why you're a religious cult

The Scriptures are "God breathed"

 
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"Before Abraham was, I Am" -- Jesus

Now who else identifies Himself as "I Am"?

You may not understand what He was saying, by the Jewish leaders did. So much so that they wanted to kill Him
Pure Christian fables, fairy tale.

Written by a Christian, who called himself John, 100 years after Jesus died, out of his own imagination.

When you do find something written by a contemporaneous of Jesus and not people who never met him and also lived 50 to 100 years after his death, let me know.


ALL of the gospels were written 50 to 100 years after Jesus lived by people who NEVER met him.



And thank you again for not knowing anything about Judaism, its beliefs, etc, as it makes it much easier for evangelicals like yourself to dismiss anything Jews say about a guy, a living person who was JEWISH to the end of his days.
 
We got us a live one fellers!

Quick question. settle a bet for us.
Do you happen to teach Bible classes to teens and preteens?
Because everyone that disagrees with your pro-LGBTQ+ opinion is a closeted homosexual? First of all, let's assume I am a closeted homosexual. Yeah? How does that render what I said false or wrong? You're resorting to a logical fallacy called an ad hominin. Where in an attempt to refute someone who disagrees with you, you attack their character and person. I can be a flaming homosexual, and that wouldn't in any way render any of the points I made wrong.

I'm a happily married man without an iota of sexual attraction toward other males, but if you insist in believing I'm a closeted homosexual, that's perfectly fine. You can also believe the moon is made out of Swiss cheese.
 
So... we're pretending that if there is a GOD he actually wrote the bible? As opposed to men writing it in an effort to control the masses?

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The Hebrew Scriptures were written as literature.
Not meant for non Jews who were, and continue to be totally ignorant and dismissive of what Judaism was and continues to be.


The NT is another story. Meant to imitate the Hebrew Scriptures by using its stories to try to make sense of what happened to Jesus, based on what Paul wrote to his followers. Paul knew that Jesus was not a Demigod, as in pagan literature like Hercules. But his followers did not.

And the main sell of the story was salvation.

The Romans were not kind to those under their control, at all. If they had not crucified people, but killed them in any other less brutal way......there would not be Christianity today.
 
He said He was.
He said He was the God who delivered Israel out of Egypt He said He was the only God Israel knew.

But then if you believe He wasn't God, to re left with the OT GOD who DID tell you that ENGAGING in homosexuality is a death penalty offense

Again I have to remind you to "stay in your lane." You're looking foolish
I am going back to this early post, Carlin.

Jesus did not say anything. People decades after his death alleged , based on what was written in the Hebrew Scriptures, that Jesus had said things similar to what was written in Scriptures.

Someone even attributed to Jesus a saying which was actually coined by Rabi Hillel, 100 years before Jesus was born.

"What you yourself hate, don't do to your neighbor. This is the whole law; the rest is commentary. Go and study."



This is the Christian version of that quote:

"2In everything, then, do to others asyou would have them do to you. For thisis the essence of the Law and theProphets. 1"

Which is from Mathew

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Now, to the point of the thread, one man wrote in the Hebrew Scriptures about something that may have happened with King David sleeping with another man. It may have been written in a negative way.

Homosexuality amongst women is not discussed at all, and the same happens in Christianity and Islam, and possibly other cultures.


I do not know who, a Christian, may have written similar things and attributed them to Jesus.

But if one looks at the Ten Commandments, there is no prohibition of homosexuality.

If one looks at the 613 Commandments Judaism has, one will not find one against Homosexuality.




There were no persecutions of homosexuals before Jesus' time, or after. None which were written about. No Greek, Roman, Assyrian, Babylonian writings on the subject that I am aware of.

It looks, to me, that persecution may have started with what some Christians may have written about homosexuality and accorded those ideas to Jesus which you have posted, as being his thoughts, or laws. And how Christianity may have spread those ideas.

Islam borrows from both, but only from the 7th century on. What was the thinking on homosexuality before that century and Islam?


I do not know of one culture back then which went after those who were not heterosexual.


But today there is an increasing acceptance of Homosexuality in the world, as it should be.



Read the post, read the articles or not, it is up to you and anyone else on this thread.


But to keep attributing homosexuality being forbidden by Jesus.....that is wrong.


How does one explain over 1500 species of animals being observed by humans to have homosexual tendencies? Some Humans are not imitating those animals, that is for sure.

Did god decide to make animals homosexuals but not humans?

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It's no secret that some humans are homosexual, but did you know that the behavior is also very common in the animal kingdom? In fact, studies suggest that around 1,500 animal species are known to practice regular same-sex coupling - from insects and fish to birds and mammals - with the actual number likely being even higher.

"Being homosexual is very common and no problem in the natural world at all. In fact, we see more heterophobia than homophobia in the animal kingdom," Jasper Buikx, biologist at Amsterdam's ARTIS Zoo, told DW in an interview.


 
Jesus was not shy about calling out sin. While he condemned sin, he loved the sinner.
So you're saying Jesus was all about hate?
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Because everyone that disagrees with your pro-LGBTQ+ opinion is a closeted homosexual? First of all, let's assume I am a closeted homosexual. Yeah? How does that render what I said false or wrong? You're resorting to a logical fallacy called an ad hominin. Where in an attempt to refute someone who disagrees with you, you attack their character and person. I can be a flaming homosexual, and that wouldn't in any way render any of the points I made wrong.

I'm a happily married man without an iota of sexual attraction toward other males, but if you insist in believing I'm a closeted homosexual, that's perfectly fine. You can also believe the moon is made out of Swiss cheese.
What believe sweetie is unimportant.
I just match the behaviors to the most probable cause.
To express such hatred of someone you don't know who has never done you harm for simply being
Clearly suggests an internal unresolved conflict.
Lots of "happily married" men are closet queens
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To a man they publicly exhibit an inordinate hatred of all things gay.
Clearly indicating the conflict is between who the present themselves to be and who they really are.
 
What believe sweetie is unimportant.
I just match the behaviors to the most probable cause.
To express such hatred of someone you don't know who has never done you harm for simply being
Clearly suggests an internal unresolved conflict.
Lots of "happily married" men are closet queens
and
To a man they publicly exhibit an inordinate hatred of all things gay.
Clearly indicating the conflict is between who the present themselves to be and who they really are.
OK, you can believe that if you want. Nonetheless, homosexuality is demonic and destructive, and it shouldn't be celebrated or encouraged. Our children should stay clear of those who promote LGBTQ+, lest their impressionable minds are influenced and become confused.
 
The Hebrew Scriptures were written as literature.
Not meant for non Jews who were, and continue to be totally ignorant and dismissive of what Judaism was and continues to be.


The NT is another story. Meant to imitate the Hebrew Scriptures by using its stories to try to make sense of what happened to Jesus, based on what Paul wrote to his followers. Paul knew that Jesus was not a Demigod, as in pagan literature like Hercules. But his followers did not.

And the main sell of the story was salvation.

The Romans were not kind to those under their control, at all. If they had not crucified people, but killed them in any other less brutal way......there would not be Christianity today.

LOL.
 
OK, you can believe that if you want. Nonetheless, homosexuality is demonic and destructive, and it shouldn't be celebrated or encouraged. Our children should stay clear of those who promote LGBTQ+, lest their impressionable minds are influenced and become confused.
Nowhere in the Hebrew Scriptures it is described as demonic and destructive, which only goes to show that the more people pass something on, the more it changes the original meaning of what was being talked about to begin with.

Ignorance promotes more ignorance.
 
Nowhere in the Hebrew Scriptures it is described as demonic and destructive, which only goes to show that the more people pass something on, the more it changes the original meaning of what was being talked about to begin with.

Ignorance promotes more ignorance.

The Bible is crystal clear that homosexuality is sinful and destructive.

Feeling same-sex attraction isn't sinful, especially if you're not watching gay porn or reinforcing those feelings. It's a lot harder to stop birds from flying over your head than it is to stop them from building a nest on your head. Having ugly thoughts or perverted ones, when you're not seeking them or deliberately doing something that reinforces those feelings, is not a sin. Indulging in such thoughts leads to developing passions, which leads to homosexual acts. The acts are what is sinful and destructive.

It doesn't matter how egalitarian a society is, the suicide rates for homosexuals are significantly higher than for heterosexuals. Male homosexuals are also at much higher risk of contracting HIV and other dangerous STDs than heterosexual men:


Boys and girls should be raised in an environment that reinforces a heterosexual orientation, allowing them to develop a healthy attraction to the opposite sex:


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You, homosexuals, are going to find yourselves back in the 1950s, being thrown back into your closets if you continue with your lunacy.
 
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The Bible is crystal clear that homosexuality is sinful and destructive.


Feeling same-sex attraction isn't sinful, especially if you're not watching gay porn or reinforcing those feelings. It's a lot harder to stop birds from flying over your head than it is to stop them from building a nest on your head. Having ugly thoughts or perverted ones, when you're not seeking them or deliberately doing something that reinforces those feelings, is not a sin. Indulging in such thoughts leads to developing passions, which leads to homosexual acts. The acts are what is sinful and destructive.

It doesn't matter how egalitarian a society is, the suicide rates for homosexuals are significantly higher than for heterosexuals. Male homosexuals are also at much higher risk of contracting HIV and other dangerous STDs than heterosexual men:


Boys and girls should be raised in an environment that reinforces a heterosexual orientation, allowing them to develop a healthy attraction to the opposite sex:


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You, homosexuals, are going to find yourselves back in the 1950s, being thrown back into your closets if you continue with your lunacy.
Show me where in the Hebrew Scriptures, NOT the NT, it says what you posted.
 
Show me where in the Hebrew Scriptures, NOT the NT, it says what you posted.
The Bible is both OT and NT. The OT is just as unambiguous as the NT, against homosexuality. The link I provided above, provides all of the biblical passages. You're not going to go over those passages, but others will. I'm not responding to you, in order to convince you of anything, because I know you're way beyond anyone convincing you with respect to homosexuality being sinful and destructive. I do it for others, who are sincerely searching for the truth.
 
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The Bible is crystal clear that homosexuality is sinful and destructive.

Feeling same-sex attraction isn't sinful, especially if you're not watching gay porn or reinforcing those feelings. It's a lot harder to stop birds from flying over your head than it is to stop them from building a nest on your head. Having ugly thoughts or perverted ones, when you're not seeking them or deliberately doing something that reinforces those feelings, is not a sin. Indulging in such thoughts leads to developing passions, which leads to homosexual acts. The acts are what is sinful and destructive.

It doesn't matter how egalitarian a society is, the suicide rates for homosexuals are significantly higher than for heterosexuals. Male homosexuals are also at much higher risk of contracting HIV and other dangerous STDs than heterosexual men:


Boys and girls should be raised in an environment that reinforces a heterosexual orientation, allowing them to develop a healthy attraction to the opposite sex:


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You, homosexuals, are going to find yourselves back in the 1950s, being thrown back into your closets if you continue with your lunacy.
Non of your examples are real. No child is being "groomed". They are either born homosexual or not.

You are doing nothing but repeating religious extremist beliefs because you are not capable of actually looking at the facts and learning what it is all about.


End the ignorance.
 
Non of your examples are real. No child is being "groomed". They are either born homosexual or not.

You are doing nothing but repeating religious extremist beliefs because you are not capable of actually looking at the facts and learning what it is all about.


End the ignorance.

There is no conclusive, scientific evidence showing that people are born homosexual. Even if that were the case, that wouldn't make homosexuality a healthy alternative to heterosexuality. People are born with many disorders and ailments, should pretend that all of those diseases are good, because people were born with that illness? According to the Bible, this world is under the spell and influence of Satan and his demons. Moreover, if someone's homosexuality can be reduced to a physical condition or gene, then it can be cured. Only sick minds and souls promote homosexuality.
 
The Bible is both OT and NT. The OT is just as unambiguous as the NT, against homosexuality. The link I provided above, provides all of the biblical passages. You're not going to go over those passages, but others will. I'm not responding to you, in order to convince you of anything, because I know you're way beyond anyone convincing you with respect to homosexuality being sinful and destructive. I do it for others, who are sincerely searching for the truth.
One's truth is not someone else's truth, especially when so many harass and even kill Homosexuals and others for not accepting their truth.

The same thing happens with extremists against Jews, or Blacks, or Indigenous people, because some extremists cannot accept that they are who they are, and have the rights they were born with.

Why are Jews persecuted? Because they are accused of killing Jesus and not accepting him as their god.

Why are Blacks, Asians, Indigenous people persecuted? Because they are not of the same "race" as the "race" persecuting them. They are considered to be inferior.


There is always a reason for a small number of extremist people to persecute others.

The NT is a total imitation of the Hebrew Scriptures. And it was Christians who renamed it "Old".


And exactly because most people do not know Hebrew and have NOT read the original Scriptures in that language, that there is a constant misrepresentation of what was actually written in the 5 Books of Moses.


Do people who translated the words as Abomination, etc actually understood the meaning of that word in Hebrew? Apparently not. But let us make people suffer because a few people decided the future and destiny of so many others.

I will leave this post and my other ones for those who do want to be able to think and learn for themselves .
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Most people often condemn homosexuality and they use the bible as basis for their condemnation. The tragic reality is that they don’t know the original meaning of the words in Hebrew or Greek that deal with homosexuality. And they haven’t tried to understand the historical context in which those words were written. Yet the assumption that the Bible condemns homosexuality is passed down from generation to generation with very little personal study or research. The consequences of this misinformation are disastrous, not only for God’s gay and lesbian children, but for the entire church. The apostle Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Test all things and hold fast to that which is good.” By reading this piece, you are taking Paul seriously. There are biblical descriptions of close and intimate relationships between members of the same gender. The Bible does contain three stories of loving, same-sex relationships in the Bible involving David, Ruth and Daniel.

Ruth and Naomi’s Same-Sex Relationship

Ruth 1: 8-9 reads as follows: Then Naomi said to her two daughters-in-law, "Go back, each of you, to your mother's home. May the LORD show kindness to you, as you have shown to your dead and to me. May the LORD grant that each of you will find rest in the home of another husband."

Did you notice that Ruth is specifically turning down the opportunity to find another husband in order to follow Naomi?

(full article online)


 
One's truth is not someone else's truth, especially when so many harass and even kill Homosexuals and others for not accepting their truth.

The same thing happens with extremists against Jews, or Blacks, or Indigenous people, because some extremists cannot accept that they are who they are, and have the rights they were born with.

Why are Jews persecuted? Because they are accused of killing Jesus and not accepting him as their god.

Why are Blacks, Asians, Indigenous people persecuted? Because they are not of the same "race" as the "race" persecuting them. They are considered to be inferior.


There is always a reason for a small number of extremist people to persecute others.

The NT is a total imitation of the Hebrew Scriptures. And it was Christians who renamed it "Old".


And exactly because most people do not know Hebrew and have NOT read the original Scriptures in that language, that there is a constant misrepresentation of what was actually written in the 5 Books of Moses.


Do people who translated the words as Abomination, etc actually understood the meaning of that word in Hebrew? Apparently not. But let us make people suffer because a few people decided the future and destiny of so many others.

I will leave this post and my other ones for those who do want to be able to think and learn for themselves .
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Most people often condemn homosexuality and they use the bible as basis for their condemnation. The tragic reality is that they don’t know the original meaning of the words in Hebrew or Greek that deal with homosexuality. And they haven’t tried to understand the historical context in which those words were written. Yet the assumption that the Bible condemns homosexuality is passed down from generation to generation with very little personal study or research. The consequences of this misinformation are disastrous, not only for God’s gay and lesbian children, but for the entire church. The apostle Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Test all things and hold fast to that which is good.” By reading this piece, you are taking Paul seriously. There are biblical descriptions of close and intimate relationships between members of the same gender. The Bible does contain three stories of loving, same-sex relationships in the Bible involving David, Ruth and Daniel.

Ruth and Naomi’s Same-Sex Relationship

Ruth 1: 8-9 reads as follows: Then Naomi said to her two daughters-in-law, "Go back, each of you, to your mother's home. May the LORD show kindness to you, as you have shown to your dead and to me. May the LORD grant that each of you will find rest in the home of another husband."

Did you notice that Ruth is specifically turning down the opportunity to find another husband in order to follow Naomi?

(full article online)



The repulsion people have for homosexuality has nothing to do with racism. One is a good disgust, whereas the other is indeed immoral. It's natural for most human beings to be disgusted with the mere thought of having sex with someone of their gender. As I showed in a previous post, homosexuals are susceptible to a lot more mental illnesses and suicide, regardless of whether they live in Pakistan or in Sweden. It doesn't matter. They are also much more likely to contract HIV and other dangerous STDs, due to their promiscuous behavior and deviant lifestyle. They bring all of this upon themselves because they refuse to repent and stop acting out those feelings. They feed those desires with porn and other activities.

Heterosexuals can also feed or further pervert themselves with porn and by engaging in several other activities. So this isn't unique to homosexuals. People fuel the fire and burn with passion toward those sinful patterns of behavior, then complain about how God condemns people to hell. It's really people condemning themselves to perdition. Don't blame God.
 
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