When did Junk Plans become Junk Plans

[Quantum Windbag]

In all the debate over Obamadon'tcare, I don't recall much discussion about "Junk Plans". It was always about "you could keep your insurance if you like it".

Period.

Then our Affirmative Action Non-Hero gets has skinny ass caught in a wringer and all of sudden, these became junk plans.

I am sure there might have been a few statements about this prior to the BIG LIE being exposed, but I don't recall hearing it at all.

If the left can't produce 1000 clips of this, then they have to admit that this is nothing more than a scorched earth effort to divert from the fact that our incompetent president is also an incompetent liar.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LEFT BECOMES CONCERNED about our junk plans.

And Ed Shultz has the moxy and the dead brain cells to push this pile of horseshyt.

If you are from the left, don't bother posting about what the plans did and did not cover, that is just more smoke. It really does not matter if you think they are junk or not.

You were pretty quiet on the whole topic prior to the BIG LIE. That is what this is about. Negs to anyone who compares plans.

And maybe I am wrong about this. But I just don't recall seeing it.

All I heard was the may plan (good or bad) and doctor were safe from any issues because of Obamacare.

Let's see it.

You can add my neg to anyone who tries to justify this by saying the plans didn't cover maternity care for men who are over 50.

 

[boedicca]

If a company in the private sector pulled this bullshit they would have been brought up
on charges of fraud.Plain and simple.

I really like how the federal ObamaCare site is exempt from informing users of security breaches. The state run ones are required to do such notification - but not the feds. This makes it pretty much the perfect ClusterFraudFuck.

 

[Listening]

You people need to get a grip.

Your plan is junk if Obama says it's junk. And if he likes your plan, you can keep your plan...for a fee.

robbery chicago style

I'll rep you when I can (just did recently)...but that is a great line.

 

[alan1]

I miss the good old days when I could choose when or when not to engage in commerce.

 

[Clementine]

They didn't become junk plans until the lies were exposed about being allowed to actually choose for yourself. Now that this administration is forcing us to part with our own choices, they have to say we had bad plans to justify the law making us lose them. Now they say we'll be better off, unless of course you can't afford to pay two or three times more for a plan. In that case, you'll be in good company when you no longer have any plan at all. So, nothing is better than a junk plan, according to the left. And don't expect sympathy for having your insurance taken from you and not being able to afford a new plan. It's just a little ole' unintended consequence. It's only a crisis if they are trying to pass radical legislation. So, pay through the nose to get what they say you may have or just pay the fine and shut up.

 

[Kosh]

Is the far left afraid of this thread as well?

Does this not fit into their programmed talking points?

Do the far left blog sites talk about this?

 

[Listening]

Is the far left afraid of this thread as well?

Does this not fit into their programmed talking points?

Do the far left blog sites talk about this?

Haven't seen one.

After all, this is what he really "meant" according to dumbass Pelosi.

You'd think we'd see something.

I am not even saying it isn't out there.

The left should be just as pissed at this as the right. They were lied to and now they are being expected, like Jay Blarney, to carry bullshyt instead of water.

Like I said, maybe they exist.

 

[blackhawk]

They became junk plans when the lie if you like your plan you can keep it period was exposed. The Obama motto on healthcare seems to be I will decide what's best for you no matter if you like it or not.

 

[The Rabbi]

They became junk when insurers began cancelling them in droves and the Administration needed a talking point to persuade people Obamacare was actually doing them a favor.
Perhaps a few really stupid ones fell for it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They became junk when Obama had enough of people making their own choices about their healthcare. Funny, I recall abortionists saying the government should stay out of their uterus, but don't mind the government controlling what healthcare they choose.

Hello? How can you be pro-choice when you willingly concede freedom to make your choices to the government?

 

[SwimExpert]

In all the debate over Obamadon'tcare, I don't recall much discussion about "Junk Plans". It was always about "you could keep your insurance if you like it".

Period.

Then our Affirmative Action Non-Hero gets has skinny ass caught in a wringer and all of sudden, these became junk plans.

I am sure there might have been a few statements about this prior to the BIG LIE being exposed, but I don't recall hearing it at all.

If the left can't produce 1000 clips of this, then they have to admit that this is nothing more than a scorched earth effort to divert from the fact that our incompetent president is also an incompetent liar.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LEFT BECOMES CONCERNED about our junk plans.

And Ed Shultz has the moxy and the dead brain cells to push this pile of horseshyt.

If you are from the left, don't bother posting about what the plans did and did not cover, that is just more smoke. It really does not matter if you think they are junk or not.

You were pretty quiet on the whole topic prior to the BIG LIE. That is what this is about. Negs to anyone who compares plans.

And maybe I am wrong about this. But I just don't recall seeing it.

All I heard was the may plan (good or bad) and doctor were safe from any issues because of Obamacare.

Let's see it.

I want to know when any plan became anything better than a junk plan. All insurance is junk. You pay the insurance company, they pay the doctor. They're not paying the doctor out of the kindness of their heart. They're in it for profit. That means that, in the long run, you're always paying more than they're paying the doctor. Get rid of Obamacare, and just ban insurance. That way the market can deal with costs the way that markets are meant to deal with them. If the services are too expensive for people to afford, the providers will have to adjust their prices on their own accord if they want to stay in business.

 

[tap4154]

In all the debate over Obamadon'tcare, I don't recall much discussion about "Junk Plans". It was always about "you could keep your insurance if you like it".

Period.

Then our Affirmative Action Non-Hero gets has skinny ass caught in a wringer and all of sudden, these became junk plans.

I am sure there might have been a few statements about this prior to the BIG LIE being exposed, but I don't recall hearing it at all.

If the left can't produce 1000 clips of this, then they have to admit that this is nothing more than a scorched earth effort to divert from the fact that our incompetent president is also an incompetent liar.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LEFT BECOMES CONCERNED about our junk plans.

And Ed Shultz has the moxy and the dead brain cells to push this pile of horseshyt.

If you are from the left, don't bother posting about what the plans did and did not cover, that is just more smoke. It really does not matter if you think they are junk or not.

You were pretty quiet on the whole topic prior to the BIG LIE. That is what this is about. Negs to anyone who compares plans.

And maybe I am wrong about this. But I just don't recall seeing it.

All I heard was the may plan (good or bad) and doctor were safe from any issues because of Obamacare.

Let's see it.

I want to know when any plan became anything better than a junk plan. All insurance is junk. You pay the insurance company, they pay the doctor. They're not paying the doctor out of the kindness of their heart. They're in it for profit. That means that, in the long run, you're always paying more than they're paying the doctor. Get rid of Obamacare, and just ban insurance. That way the market can deal with costs the way that markets are meant to deal with them. If the services are too expensive for people to afford, the providers will have to adjust their prices on their own accord if they want to stay in business.

"Insurance" is paying a reasonable amount each month to insure against HUGE costs in the case of a serious car accident, or serious illness. The routine maintenance, on your car or yourself, is out of pocket.

The ACA fundamentally changed this and includes all kinds of "free" stuff, the cost of which is being spread around with unreasonable rates for anyone who pays.

It's socialism, PERIOD

 

[Quantum Windbag]

In all the debate over Obamadon'tcare, I don't recall much discussion about "Junk Plans". It was always about "you could keep your insurance if you like it".

Period.

Then our Affirmative Action Non-Hero gets has skinny ass caught in a wringer and all of sudden, these became junk plans.

I am sure there might have been a few statements about this prior to the BIG LIE being exposed, but I don't recall hearing it at all.

If the left can't produce 1000 clips of this, then they have to admit that this is nothing more than a scorched earth effort to divert from the fact that our incompetent president is also an incompetent liar.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LEFT BECOMES CONCERNED about our junk plans.

And Ed Shultz has the moxy and the dead brain cells to push this pile of horseshyt.

If you are from the left, don't bother posting about what the plans did and did not cover, that is just more smoke. It really does not matter if you think they are junk or not.

You were pretty quiet on the whole topic prior to the BIG LIE. That is what this is about. Negs to anyone who compares plans.

And maybe I am wrong about this. But I just don't recall seeing it.

All I heard was the may plan (good or bad) and doctor were safe from any issues because of Obamacare.

Let's see it.

I want to know when any plan became anything better than a junk plan. All insurance is junk. You pay the insurance company, they pay the doctor. They're not paying the doctor out of the kindness of their heart. They're in it for profit. That means that, in the long run, you're always paying more than they're paying the doctor. Get rid of Obamacare, and just ban insurance. That way the market can deal with costs the way that markets are meant to deal with them. If the services are too expensive for people to afford, the providers will have to adjust their prices on their own accord if they want to stay in business.

I have some adevice for you, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

 

[BobPlumb]

One man's junk is another man's treasure.

 

[Shrimpbox]

When every day brings more news about how the finest medical facilities are being removed or are not entering obamacare how can the bit about better health care hold water. Once agaIn republican should be beating the drums about this, but the pr Machine is brain dead.

 

[Listening]

Where is the left ?

 

[Sherry]

Where is the left ?

Hoping that people will stop bumping this thread.

 

[BobPlumb]

Whenever I see Obama on TV I can't get the theme song of Sanford and Son out of my head.

 

[Clementine]

They became junk when insurers began cancelling them in droves and the Administration needed a talking point to persuade people Obamacare was actually doing them a favor.
Perhaps a few really stupid ones fell for it.

The ones that are subsidized could care less if others lost their insurance.

I think the ones they consider crap plans are the ones that most doctors would actually accept. Few doctors are willing to accept Obamacare patients because they will only be paid a fraction of what it actually costs to care for the patients.

'Crap plans' paid a big chunk of our medical bills and it was affordable. Obamacare will offer a small payment for medical bills, tell the doctors to eat the rest and it is not affordable to the majority. Less for more money, that's the liberal way.

 

[ron4342]

In all the debate over Obamadon'tcare, I don't recall much discussion about "Junk Plans". It was always about "you could keep your insurance if you like it".

Period.

Then our Affirmative Action Non-Hero gets has skinny ass caught in a wringer and all of sudden, these became junk plans.

I am sure there might have been a few statements about this prior to the BIG LIE being exposed, but I don't recall hearing it at all.

If the left can't produce 1000 clips of this, then they have to admit that this is nothing more than a scorched earth effort to divert from the fact that our incompetent president is also an incompetent liar.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LEFT BECOMES CONCERNED about our junk plans.

And Ed Shultz has the moxy and the dead brain cells to push this pile of horseshyt.

If you are from the left, don't bother posting about what the plans did and did not cover, that is just more smoke. It really does not matter if you think they are junk or not.

You were pretty quiet on the whole topic prior to the BIG LIE. That is what this is about. Negs to anyone who compares plans.

And maybe I am wrong about this. But I just don't recall seeing it.

All I heard was the may plan (good or bad) and doctor were safe from any issues because of Obamacare.

Let's see it.

Insurance companies have been offering "junk plans" for years. They are nothing new, however the the phrase is used in the trade and so it is unknown in the general population. Junk plans offer little and are basically a scam by the insurance companies. They are great plans if you are not sick or in a serious accident. If you sign up for a junk plan you pay a low premiem but if you have a serious problem you are SHIT OUT OF LUCK.
If you want some insight into junk plans (which I seriously doubt) rent the video "The Rainmaker" with Matt Damon. The story deals with a lawyer who goes after an insurance company that sells junk policies.
The truth of the matter is I do not think you are here to learn anything. You are here to throw mud!