What liberals don't understand about "MAGA"

[Blisterfinger]

I understand MAGA all to well. Which is why I oppose MAGA.

You don't understand MAGA at all. That's obvious. You are much too stupid

 

[hadit]

When you look at what they propose, it is evident what they want and it is NOT to make America great for everyone.

What do "they" propose that you specifically oppose?

 

[BULLDOG]

Now you're projecting again. How is it that I can always take advantage of you?

You think you are taking advantage of me? Sure, why not? You can believe any crazy little thing you want cause you're crazy.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

"MAGA" technically means "make America great again." Liberals have never really understood what "MAGA" really represents to people, why it appeals to so many, and as a result they've never been able to counteract its effect. Democrats and liberals have spent years trying to define "MAGA" on their own terms. And what they don't ever seem to realize is that they're playing right into the MAGA strategy, creating more MAGA folks and reinforcing the MAGA appeal those who already have bought in.

So let's see if I can help Democrats have a breakthrough.

MAGA is a vague idea. It's amorphous. No, it doesn't mean whatever someone wants it to mean. It means whatever someone needs it to mean. MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

Everyone is nostalgic at times. Everyone has happy memories of a different time. Everyone looks back fondly at something. Even if you've had the best, most amazing life possible, there will still be room for nostalgia. But the thing is, not all nostalgia is about what you did. Sometimes nostalgia is what you thought. It can be something you saw. It can even be something you thought you saw, and then longed for, from a very long time ago.

Democrats have been keen to say that "MAGA" people are nostalgic for white supremacy, Jim Crow, and things like that. In other words, Democrats keep trying to define MAGA on Democrats own terms. The Democrats have largely adopted an identity politics world view, so they can only perceive MAGA as an expression of identity politics. This is why when a black person buys into MAGA, that person is accused of being an Uncle Tom. But every time Democrats do this, they can't seem to figure out that all they're doing with this rhetoric is inflaming other people's nostalgia for a time before the identity politics took hold.

MAGA is nostalgia. But not for anything specific. MAGA enables people to be nostalgic about whatever you want. Maybe you have a nostalgic memory of being a kid in the mid 80s, about 5 or 6 years old, twisting the channel knob on the TV after Sesame Street just ended, and Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous comes on. There's Donald, doing rich people stuff. You're playing with your Barbies and fantasizing about champagne wishes and caviar dreams, whatever that means as Mommy walks in with a PBJ sandwich with the crust cut off (a daily ritual). As you reminisce about those times, you happen to glance over at your own 5 year old daughter, playing with her tablet on a Saturday afternoon. And as you hand her a freshly unwrapped Uncrustable (a mere weekend ritual), it occurs to you that things are just different now. Your own childhood was somehow much more wholesome. It was a simpler time. It was more direct. It was real. You wonder how you're going to raise your own daughter to really feel something out of this life. Whatever else may have been wrong with the world, you got here, and you're a good person. And as the Democrats keep telling you, the world is a chaotic, awful place, full of terrible people.

And that is when it starts to set in. It's all a very personal experience.

Democrats need to realize that the more they tell others what MAGA means, the more they sound like idiots. Because you can't tell people what to feel when they remember their own younger life fondly. You can't demand what facts have to be inserted to other person's memories. You can't tell other people that their life was wrong all those years ago.

When people hear "make America great again" the greatness they envision is their own, personal life. And that is why anything Democrats try to associate MAGA with can be so easily ignored by adherents. That's why they can ignore so many of the things they witness that they don't like. Because MAGA is relative. Adherents understand MAGA as being relative to themselves, in their own terms, not yours.

You can't neutralize MAGA, like baking soda neutralizing acid. You have to supersede it. If Democrats can't do that, then they'll be losing to MAGA for decades yet to come.

Some folks don't give empty slogans any more thought than being simply empty slogans.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

What a perfect example of the closed mindedness of Trump Haters. Thanks Mac!

Or it's an example of the closed mindedness of Trump lovers.

 

[Blisterfinger]

You think you are taking advantage of me? Sure, why not? You can believe any crazy little thing you want cause you're crazy.

I always seem to make you look like a fool. This time no different

 

[BrokeLoser]

I dunno, because they're stupid I guess.

They could have replaced Biden with one of the centrist governors and won handily. Why didn't they?

Centrism won’t sell in this new America…we are a people way too far apart on too many things. This is what the globalists always wanted.
While globalists scream “DIVIDE AND CONQUER” at the sky and blame permanent Washington sane people know it was them who fucked the place up beyond all recognition.
It’s time to let old America go…like the purple hair people have said for decades…”it’s never coming back” and neither is bipartisanship on any level.

 

[MarathonMike]

Or it's an example of the closed mindedness of Trump lovers.

I have demonstrated that I will talk to anyone about anything. You follow my posts obviously so you know that.

 

[Unkotare]

Centrism won’t sell in this new America…...

Of course it DOES, and there is no "new" America. America is America. YOU are NOT an American.

 

[dblack]

Centrism won’t sell in this new America…

It won't sell to partisan drones. Fortunately, most people aren't partisan drones.

 

[BluesLegend]

Says the party that uses lawfare against political opoinents.

Says the party who labels anyone who disagrees.

Says the party who openly run 2 who believe in censorship of free speach.

Which is why I flip the lying scum Democrats the bird. They do nothing but lie and screw over the poor and working class.

 

[BrokeLoser]

It won't sell to partisan drones. Fortunately, most people aren't partisan drones.

Pay attention…why has NO centrist been able to get a campaign off the ground at the national level?
Hint:
The less American we become the further from center we move.
Wake up man…Real America is gone, you fucked us big-time.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Centrism won’t sell in this new America…we are a people way too far apart on too many things. This is what the globalists always wanted.
While globalists scream “DIVIDE AND CONQUER” at the sky and blame permanent Washington sane people know it was them who fucked the place up beyond all recognition.
It’s time to let old America go…like the purple hair people have said for decades…”it’s never coming back” and neither is bipartisanship on any level.

Bipartisanship - What it means to the Demonfascists. Telling the sorry ass Republicans to vote for their shit and shut up.
What it means to a Republican. Here we go again, the sorry ass Republicans are going to cave to the dumbass Demonfascists who want to fuck over America.


This is why the Make America Great Again is picking up steam. No one wants shitfucks like you running this country into the ground. But there is a very simple solution for you asswipe democrats, that the brown turd obammy did for you. Go to Cuba, live there for one year, see if the Socialist dream is for you, and if you like it, stay and be JOY. JOY. JOY. You know what Camel Toe Harris first ran on.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Bipartisanship - What it means to the Demonfascists. Telling the sorry ass Republicans to vote for their shit and shut up.

BINGO!
Know this, anytime you have a leftist or kinda leftist like dblack or Harpy Eagle pushing bipartisanship you can be sure that what they’re really saying is…”Let us continue to shove chicks with dicks, weird ass shit and Mexico’s people down your throat and we can all get along…because PROGRESS.”
FUCK THAT!

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Bipartisanship - What it means to the Demonfascists. Telling the sorry ass Republicans to vote for their shit and shut up.
What it means to a Republican. Here we go again, the sorry ass Republicans are going to cave to the dumbass Demonfascists who want to fuck over America.


This is why the Make America Great Again is picking up steam. No one wants shitfucks like you running this country into the ground. But there is a very simple solution for you asswipe democrats, that the brown turd obammy did for you. Go to Cuba, live there for one year, see if the Socialist dream is for you, and if you like it, stay and be JOY. JOY. JOY. You know what Camel Toe Harris first ran on.

I give both parties the finger.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I give both parties the finger.

DAMN…you and dblack are such badasses!
What’s cool is…taking such action prevents them from winning…so fucking cool!

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

"MAGA" technically means "make America great again." Liberals have never really understood what "MAGA" really represents to people, why it appeals to so many, and as a result they've never been able to counteract its effect. Democrats and liberals have spent years trying to define "MAGA" on their own terms. And what they don't ever seem to realize is that they're playing right into the MAGA strategy, creating more MAGA folks and reinforcing the MAGA appeal those who already have bought in.

So let's see if I can help Democrats have a breakthrough.

MAGA is a vague idea. It's amorphous. No, it doesn't mean whatever someone wants it to mean. It means whatever someone needs it to mean. MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

Everyone is nostalgic at times. Everyone has happy memories of a different time. Everyone looks back fondly at something. Even if you've had the best, most amazing life possible, there will still be room for nostalgia. But the thing is, not all nostalgia is about what you did. Sometimes nostalgia is what you thought. It can be something you saw. It can even be something you thought you saw, and then longed for, from a very long time ago.

Democrats have been keen to say that "MAGA" people are nostalgic for white supremacy, Jim Crow, and things like that. In other words, Democrats keep trying to define MAGA on Democrats own terms. The Democrats have largely adopted an identity politics world view, so they can only perceive MAGA as an expression of identity politics. This is why when a black person buys into MAGA, that person is accused of being an Uncle Tom. But every time Democrats do this, they can't seem to figure out that all they're doing with this rhetoric is inflaming other people's nostalgia for a time before the identity politics took hold.

MAGA is nostalgia. But not for anything specific. MAGA enables people to be nostalgic about whatever you want. Maybe you have a nostalgic memory of being a kid in the mid 80s, about 5 or 6 years old, twisting the channel knob on the TV after Sesame Street just ended, and Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous comes on. There's Donald, doing rich people stuff. You're playing with your Barbies and fantasizing about champagne wishes and caviar dreams, whatever that means as Mommy walks in with a PBJ sandwich with the crust cut off (a daily ritual). As you reminisce about those times, you happen to glance over at your own 5 year old daughter, playing with her tablet on a Saturday afternoon. And as you hand her a freshly unwrapped Uncrustable (a mere weekend ritual), it occurs to you that things are just different now. Your own childhood was somehow much more wholesome. It was a simpler time. It was more direct. It was real. You wonder how you're going to raise your own daughter to really feel something out of this life. Whatever else may have been wrong with the world, you got here, and you're a good person. And as the Democrats keep telling you, the world is a chaotic, awful place, full of terrible people.

And that is when it starts to set in. It's all a very personal experience.

Democrats need to realize that the more they tell others what MAGA means, the more they sound like idiots. Because you can't tell people what to feel when they remember their own younger life fondly. You can't demand what facts have to be inserted to other person's memories. You can't tell other people that their life was wrong all those years ago.

When people hear "make America great again" the greatness they envision is their own, personal life. And that is why anything Democrats try to associate MAGA with can be so easily ignored by adherents. That's why they can ignore so many of the things they witness that they don't like. Because MAGA is relative. Adherents understand MAGA as being relative to themselves, in their own terms, not yours.

You can't neutralize MAGA, like baking soda neutralizing acid. You have to supersede it. If Democrats can't do that, then they'll be losing to MAGA for decades yet to come.

Liberals only know what they’re told to feel.

 

[Hector12]

Ronald Reagan appealed and Donald Trump appeals to nostalgia for the 1950's. The 1950's was the golden age of America's white working class. They benefited from the fact that World War II destroyed the factories of our trade rivals and left ours intact.

They also benefited from the fact that the economic reforms of the New Deal two decades earlier meant that much of the economic growth would be directed toward them.

It was possible for a white man with only a high school degree to earn enough that he could buy a house in the suburbs, a car, and have a wife who did not need to work and who could stay at home raising the children.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

DAMN…you and dblack are such badasses!
What’s cool is…taking such action prevents them from winning…so fucking cool!

You seem to believe I require your approval for stuff. Why?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Some folks don't give empty slogans any more thought than being simply empty slogans.

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