What liberals don't understand about "MAGA"

LOL and, praytell, how do you communicate with with this type of thinking from your cult?

"One other thing that you'll see next week, Kaitlan, is Trump actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939. I write about this in my book," Clinton told CNN's Kaitlan Collins on Thursday night. "President Franklin Roosevelt was appalled that neo-Nazis, fascists in America were lining up to essentially pledge their support for the kind of government that they were seeing in Germany. So I don't think we can ignore

 
"MAGA" technically means "make America great again." Liberals have never really understood what "MAGA" really represents to people, why it appeals to so many, and as a result they've never been able to counteract its effect. Democrats and liberals have spent years trying to define "MAGA" on their own terms. And what they don't ever seem to realize is that they're playing right into the MAGA strategy, creating more MAGA folks and reinforcing the MAGA appeal those who already have bought in.

So let's see if I can help Democrats have a breakthrough.

MAGA is a vague idea. It's amorphous. No, it doesn't mean whatever someone wants it to mean. It means whatever someone needs it to mean. MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

Everyone is nostalgic at times. Everyone has happy memories of a different time. Everyone looks back fondly at something. Even if you've had the best, most amazing life possible, there will still be room for nostalgia. But the thing is, not all nostalgia is about what you did. Sometimes nostalgia is what you thought. It can be something you saw. It can even be something you thought you saw, and then longed for, from a very long time ago.

Democrats have been keen to say that "MAGA" people are nostalgic for white supremacy, Jim Crow, and things like that. In other words, Democrats keep trying to define MAGA on Democrats own terms. The Democrats have largely adopted an identity politics world view, so they can only perceive MAGA as an expression of identity politics. This is why when a black person buys into MAGA, that person is accused of being an Uncle Tom. But every time Democrats do this, they can't seem to figure out that all they're doing with this rhetoric is inflaming other people's nostalgia for a time before the identity politics took hold.

MAGA is nostalgia. But not for anything specific. MAGA enables people to be nostalgic about whatever you want. Maybe you have a nostalgic memory of being a kid in the mid 80s, about 5 or 6 years old, twisting the channel knob on the TV after Sesame Street just ended, and Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous comes on. There's Donald, doing rich people stuff. You're playing with your Barbies and fantasizing about champagne wishes and caviar dreams, whatever that means as Mommy walks in with a PBJ sandwich with the crust cut off (a daily ritual). As you reminisce about those times, you happen to glance over at your own 5 year old daughter, playing with her tablet on a Saturday afternoon. And as you hand her a freshly unwrapped Uncrustable (a mere weekend ritual), it occurs to you that things are just different now. Your own childhood was somehow much more wholesome. It was a simpler time. It was more direct. It was real. You wonder how you're going to raise your own daughter to really feel something out of this life. Whatever else may have been wrong with the world, you got here, and you're a good person. And as the Democrats keep telling you, the world is a chaotic, awful place, full of terrible people.

And that is when it starts to set in. It's all a very personal experience.

Democrats need to realize that the more they tell others what MAGA means, the more they sound like idiots. Because you can't tell people what to feel when they remember their own younger life fondly. You can't demand what facts have to be inserted to other person's memories. You can't tell other people that their life was wrong all those years ago.

When people hear "make America great again" the greatness they envision is their own, personal life. And that is why anything Democrats try to associate MAGA with can be so easily ignored by adherents. That's why they can ignore so many of the things they witness that they don't like. Because MAGA is relative. Adherents understand MAGA as being relative to themselves, in their own terms, not yours.

You can't neutralize MAGA, like baking soda neutralizing acid. You have to supersede it. If Democrats can't do that, then they'll be losing to MAGA for decades yet to come.
Nostalgia tends to emphasize the good memories while ignoring the harm that resulted from what produced those good memories. It's easy to be enamored by memories of a man coming home from a good job to a wife who had his supper waiting. Especially if you don't consider those who were treated like third class citizens and never had the opportunity to have one of those good jobs.
 
LOL and, praytell, how do you communicate with with this type of thinking from your cult?

"One other thing that you'll see next week, Kaitlan, is Trump actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939. I write about this in my book," Clinton told CNN's Kaitlan Collins on Thursday night. "President Franklin Roosevelt was appalled that neo-Nazis, fascists in America were lining up to essentially pledge their support for the kind of government that they were seeing in Germany. So I don't think we can ignore

Says the party that uses lawfare against political opoinents.

Says the party who labels anyone who disagrees.

Says the party who openly run 2 who believe in censorship of free speach.
 
Says the party that uses lawfare against political opoinents.
Nonsense. You guys should think about not nominating criminals.
Says the party who labels anyone who disagrees.
Labels them what? Enemies of the state? That's what Trump labeled the media.
Says the party who openly run 2 who believe in censorship of free speach.
That would be Trump. He wanted the broadcast license of ABC and CBS revoked after he didn't like their news coverage.
 
Nonsense. You guys should think about not nominating criminals.

Labels them what? Enemies of the state? That's what Trump labeled the media.

That would be Trump. He wanted the broadcast license of ABC and CBS revoked after he didn't like their news coverage.
Trump fights back against those who attack him.

Your media is BIASED as hell. They LIE same as You.

So stuff your outrage where the Sun doesnt shine
 
Trump fights back against those who attack him.
He has no problem attacking anyone who doesn't agree with him. Sometimes he breaks the law to do so.
Your media is BIASED as hell. They LIE same as You.
Oh no! I guess that's why you're okay with labeling them the enemy of the state. Because exercising free speech threatens you.
So stuff your outrage where the Sun doesnt shine
Doesn't change the fact that Trump has openly called for and advocated censorship of political speech. Something which you are just too afraid to discuss.
 
Nostalgia tends to emphasize the good memories while ignoring the harm that resulted from what produced those good memories.

See, you're doing exactly what I told you not to do.
 
I don't necessarily disagree but MAGA has been a longtime in the making. I think you can draw a direct line from the John Birch Society to the Reagan Revolution to the Tea Party to MAGA. They are shades of the same movement.

All these movements have common elements. A loathing of the others, a sense of victimhood, conflating all those that oppose them as "communist" and "Marxist" and a great deal of conspiracy-theory-oriented thinking.

MAGA is the culmination. Nothing happens in a vacuum. MAGA has lifted the veil off its darker side of the movement. You have Donald Trump which has allowed MAGA to show its id, if you will.

Putting the genie back in the bottle will take sometime.
You are full of feces.
 
I trace the worst of it to the day Limbaugh went public. That was the beginning of the alternate universe, to me.

As for the Dems, their weaponization of PC and Identity Politics created a resentment that they saw but simply dismissed and mocked. It's one thing to advocate for the rights of certain people, but it's another thing entirely to ruin people's careers, destroy their businesses, intimidate them into silence, shout them down, attack them publicly, deplatform them on college campuses (of all goddamn places) and expose their young children to things they should not. That's when the tide turned.

I've talked about that since I've been on this board. I saw the resentment growing (and agreed with their reasoning), but I had no idea it was this intense.

That's the role the Dems played in the rise of Trumpism. This whole disaster is the pushback, and it's obviously massive.
I can't argue with you there but what does that have to do with limbaugh?
 
Nostalgia tends to emphasize the good memories while ignoring the harm that resulted from what produced those good memories. It's easy to be enamored by memories of a man coming home from a good job to a wife who had his supper waiting. Especially if you don't consider those who were treated like third class citizens and never had the opportunity to have one of those good jobs.
Ah, the victim mentality Creeps in, well played
 
You'll often hear them say, "well don't you want to make America great again?"

So they are clearly conditioned to believe that THEIR way is the ONLY way. That's it. This is the only way to do it. Kind of like religion.

It's damn near impossible to communicate with thinking that is that shallow.

I understand MAGA all to well. Which is why I oppose MAGA.
 
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