How people are leaving MAGA

[dblack]

Just what in the hell do you think brought Trump to the Presidency?

Ultimately, fools like you voted for him.

But it started with Dems skullduggery. Leading up to 2016 they worked, deliberately and persistently, to put him at the top of the Republican ticket. They figured saddling Rs with someone so preposterously bad would force people to vote for Hillary - even though no one really like her much. They were wrong, and we've all paid the price.

The guy was a TV personality.

But the left and the establishment turned it's back on a huge part of the country and dissed ("bitterly clinging") them and dismissed them.

And they rose up and said "**** YOU".

That wasn't about candidates. It was about the complete lack of understanding of the morons in charge.

Indeed. Totally agree. Very few voted "for" Trump. They voted "against" Dems. Or at least that's what they told themselves. But our system doesn't allow voters to downvote candidates. You can't rank them or say who you really don't like, or in any meaningful way vote against a candidate.. All you can do is vote FOR one candidate. That's all that's ever recorded, that's all that matters. That's the primary problem with our election process.

2016 will forever live, in my mind, when the collective stupidity of some smart people was revealed in very stark fashion.

Gotta agree there.

 

[leftwinger]

First you have to SAVE what's left of the Country, then get a handle on the Voting and the Fraud. Then Dblacks "changes" could be looked into. Its not entertainment or a giant soap opera watching Congress bicker.

But doing nothing Ensures there would be nothing to save. Then it's a gut Job and rebuild. We know who wants that *while they are driving the car", that's right. The communists deep state crooks. Keep their money and power over "us" flowing to them forever.

 

[dblack]

Did you say no to Dementia-Addled Joe or Word Salad Idiot Kamala?

Yep. I don't vote for shitty candidates, no matter how bad the "other side" might be. It's a losing game.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Ultimately, fools like you voted for him.

But it started with Dems skullduggery. Leading up to 2016 they worked, deliberately and persistently, to put him at the top of the Republican ticket. They figured saddling Rs with someone so preposterously bad would force people to vote for Hillary - even though no one really like her much. They were wrong, and we've all paid the price.

Indeed. Totally agree. Very few voted "for" Trump. They voted "against" Dems. Or at least that's what they told themselves. But our system doesn't allow voters to downvote candidates. You can't rank them or say who you really don't like, or in any meaningful way vote against a candidate.. All you can do is vote FOR one candidate. That's all that's ever recorded, that's all that matters. That's the primary problem with our election process.


Gotta agree there.

Just a quick note.....

Not reading it. So stop responding.

Tired of the same stupid reworked garbage.

 

[dblack]

Just a quick note.....

Not reading it. So stop responding.

Then stop posting bullshit.

Tired of the same stupid reworked garbage.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Then Dblacks "changes" could be looked into.

There are no "dblack" changes.

It's all whining about what's in front of him and hoping that something better comes along.

He's proposed nothing other than "don't vote" (so the other side can win....but it's ok to let the more evil of two evils win because well, evil is evil.....and I won't get my hands dirty).

 

[dblack]

There are no "dblack" changes.

It's all whining about what's in front of him and hoping that something better comes along.

He's proposed nothing other than "don't vote" (so the other side can win....but it's ok to let the more evil of two evils win because well, evil is evil.....and I won't get my hands dirty).

Hikerguy is afraid to address dblack's arguments directly, so he misquotes him in other posts and misrepresents his ideas. Hikerguy, and his ilk, are terrified that voters will wake up and stop electing their party goons.

They should be.

 

[eagle1462010]

Ultimately, fools like you voted for him.

Awe

 

[leftwinger]

Somewhere between DBlacks Anarchy (Street wars, no power or running water) and the other option (President Trump) is a handful of do-nothing stalling stealing useless DEMCommeee leading a rapid decline to communism-street war Anarchy.

My IRA can't handle that. How do we drive w/o stoplights and gunshots from street thugs going off willy'-nilly killings and burglaries. If GOVT power&water company quits....how do the old in PHX trailers survive no A/C at 120F? WalMart doors and ATM dont work w/o power. No you aint getting 300 million to haul gold around overnight you dumb OX.

Just SHUP. All you can do is get incremental changes (improvements). But you cant save anything if Collapsed.

 

[jc456]

Translation: you’re not going to do anything other than whine. Just like last time.

well it is obvious democrats cheat, the save act is that proof.

 

[XponentialChaos]

well it is obvious democrats cheat, the save act is that proof.

You’re going to whine that they cheated every time you guys lose. You’re just a sore loser crybaby.

 

[jc456]

I don't think all that many people are leaving.

It is that many Maga will not support candidates that Trump endorses, I think.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha again on the wrong side

Desperate Hochul begs wealthy New Yorkers to come back — as Mamdani pressures her to hike their taxes

Gov. Kathy Hochul is begging wealthy New Yorkers who fled the city to come back and continue padding the Empire State’s lavish public handouts.

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Desperate Hochul begs wealthy New Yorkers to come back — as Mamdani pressures her to hike their taxes​

 

[Mac1958]

You’re going to whine that they cheated every time you guys lose. You’re just a sore loser crybaby.

That's okay, the indictments and guilty verdicts for the 2020 "rigged election" will start flowing any moment now.

Imagine how many people must have been involved to steal that many votes. The Trumpster DOJ is gonna NAIL 'em.

The flock is just SURE of it.

 

[jacksonlamb]

That's okay, the indictments and guilty verdicts for the 2020 "rigged election" will start flowing any moment now.

Imagine how many people must have been involved to steal that many votes. The Trumpster DOJ is gonna NAIL 'em.

The flock is just SURE of it.

You have them now!

 

[dblack]

That's okay, the indictments and guilty verdicts for the 2020 "rigged election" will start flowing any moment now.

Imagine how many people must have been involved to steal that many votes. The Trumpster DOJ is gonna NAIL 'em.

The flock is just SURE of it.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[XponentialChaos]

That's okay, the indictments and guilty verdicts for the 2020 "rigged election" will start flowing any moment now.

Imagine how many people must have been involved to steal that many votes. The Trumpster DOJ is gonna NAIL 'em.

The flock is just SURE of it.

Yup. Aaaaaany minute now.

 

[IM2]

Yes, that's very possible.

So if the Dems get back in power, it will be up to them to understand that. So far, I don't see much indication that they have.

Perhaps it's time to understand that the total bigotry Trump presents cannot be tolerated. So if that gives people back to MAGA, so be it. There is no wrong in opposing evil.

 

[g5000]

Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.

I used to have a quote by Charles MacKay in my signature from his book, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."


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[g5000]

The question is when are congress critters gonna start throwing him under the bus.

They absolutely will at some point. There's no doubt about that. The question is when.

Because they have far more to lose in scope than he does. He's a lame duck.

I have compared the MAGA movement many times to the Jacobins. I've called the continued movement to the extremes the "Jacobinization of the MAGA movement".

Just as the Jacobins became more and more extreme, ejecting and executing former members for not going along, the MAGAs have labeled more and more people as "RINOs" for not coming with them down the road to batshittery.

And in line with your post, I like to point out that the leader of the Jacobins, Robespierre, was himself eventually beheaded, bringing the Reign of Terror to an end.

Ten years from now, you won't be able to find anyone to say a kind word about Trump.