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[dblack]

Being a Trump supporter doesn't mean you support every single thing he's done.

But it does mean you'll defend anything he does - isn't that right?

 

[Robert W]

Wonderful sentiment. Now let's get back to reality.

1) America aborts more than a million babies per year. NOT GREAT.
2) Regular gas is still over $4.00 per gallon. NOT GREAT.
3) Beef prices are the highest in American history. NOT GREAT.
4) Nearly one million homeless Americans living on the street. NOT GREAT.
5) America's politicians answer to a foreign government. NOT GREAT.
6) The USA has been in a state of war for the last 100 years or more. NOT GREAT.
7) American jobs are STILL outsourced and most of the goods we buy are foreign made. NOT GREAT.
8) The national debt is approaching $40 Trillion. NOT GREAT.
9) The value of the petro-dollar is losing buying power daily. NOT GREAT.

So before we can "keep America great" we need to -- at the very least -- approach greatness.

Some of those items are the choices made by the citizens. 1, 4, 7 for example. 2, 3, can be mitigated, but 6 is not true, and of course we can chat about the rest.

 

[ChristisKing]

Being a Trump supporter doesn't mean you support every single thing he's done.

Good because I was starting to wonder by some of the people's reaction on here if I was not in the club anymore and I wasn't sure if I wanted to be for how I was being treated.

 

[Robert W]

But it does mean you'll defend anything he does - isn't that right?

No, but we don't attack him for 100 percent of what he does.

 

[Mashmont]

Good because I was starting to wonder by some of the people's reaction on here if I was not in the club anymore and I wasn't sure if I wanted to be for how I was being treated.

You're in the club if you would vote for Trump. No Democrat even comes close to him. People criticize me for supporting Trump, and I always ask what Democrat do they suggest as an alternative. They never have an answer, because they KNOW there is no Democrat remotely competent enough to be president right now.

 

[dblack]

No, but we don't attack him for 100 percent of what he does.

Maybe there are a few. But most Trumpsters are terrified to admit he's done anything wrong.

 

[ChristisKing]

You're in the club if you would vote for Trump.

I did vote for Trump because despite his flaws, he's a whole LOT better than having Cackling Kamala in the White House. Or the Potatohead before her.

 

[ChristisKing]

Maybe there a few. But most Trumpsters are terrified to admit he's done anything wrong.

Yeah and they'll also criticize other Trump supporters for speaking out against him about it too.

 

[Robert W]

Yes I support his agenda,.. at least his original agenda of deporting all illegal aliens or legalizing them, making arrests with the Epstein files, and this whole entire FISA thing has me on edge because I'm not quite sure about it but the problem is that he isn't sticking to his original agenda.

Do you suppose Judges and Democrats are blocking him?

 

[ChristisKing]

Do you suppose Judges and Democrats are blocking him?

Nope!

 

[Robert W]

Maybe there are a few. But most Trumpsters are terrified to admit he's done anything wrong.

You are misjudging us. Anything is a huge spectrum. Who expected him to be flawless? We do not have his responsibility nor his staff of experts. We may drive a truck, so we know about trucks, but who understands the complexity of Government?

 

[Mashmont]

Good because I was starting to wonder by some of the people's reaction on here if I was not in the club anymore and I wasn't sure if I wanted to be for how I was being treated.

The people "not in the club" are those who not only oppose everything Trump does, but even opposes conservative causes. That's how you knew the Lincoln Project was phony. When they openly opposed the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett and the overturning of Roe v Wade, that was when I knew they were fake as a three-dollar bill. Turns out they are financed by Soros.

We have some Trump haters in the forum who claim to be conservative Christians, but then oppose ICE and other generally conservative agenda items.

 

[Robert W]

Nope!

When you master Government, as I expect you will, you will see this with different eyes and understand Trump fights the Judges and later other Judges agree with Trump. But in the meantime, you think Trump is not blocked.
Trump wants Homeland security to be funded and tell me who do you believe is blocking him? Democrats are.

 

[ChristisKing]

We have some Trump haters in the forum who claim to be conservative Christians, but then oppose ICE and other generally conservative agenda items.

And also cheer for Iran yet their government persecutes Christians, abuses them, (including SA) and murders them in cold blood as well as other innocent women and children and baby goats from what I hear as well. Yet, they're the ones telling me that I'm uninformed.

 

[citygator]

Indeed. I'd never vote for a Democrat. But Trump is a blight.

Makes sense. I enjoy debating normal conservatives on policy. The Trump cult is different. They are religious about Trump and excuse and lie about everything. It’s crazy. I remember when the conservatives supported free trade, fiscal responsibility, strong alliances, values and tradition… not this crew.

 

[citygator]

There's no MAGA to leave. It died a year ago. It was resurrected as MIGA. MAGA imploded on itself. All that's left of the core group are us America Firsters. Constitutionalists & Conservatives who believe in working on America's problems instead of the problems of people half way around the globe.

We would like to clean up our own backyard before pointing out the messes in other nations' backyards. We'd like to work on our infrastructure. We'd like to bring jobs back to America and hire Americans to fill them. We'd like to become 100% energy independent. We'd like to eliminate corruption in government and focus on the vision and wisdom of America's Founding Fathers.

America Firsters want to vote for Congressional term limits. We'd like to eliminate lobbyists and punish all elected officials who take bribes from special interest groups (both foreign and domestic). We support people like Thomas Massie and Rand Paul and MTG (while she was still serving). You know -- folks who ACTUALLY put America First in front of any and all other nations.

Reasonable tone. America cant be great with dilapidated infrastructure and building an Arch and Ballroom are not the answer. Neither is a “trump class” battleship. Dude works hard to honor himself which dishonors the rest of America.

Id only argue that the soft power of USAID was irreplaceable for the small amount of money it was and that to be energy independent we need to be oil independent since oil demand is a global mechanism.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Reasonable tone. America cant be great with dilapidated infrastructure and building an Arch and Ballroom are not the answer. Neither is a “trump class” battleship. Dude works hard to honor himself which dishonors the rest of America.

Id only argue that the soft power of USAID was irreplaceable for the small amount of money it was and that to be energy independent we need to be oil independent since oil demand is a global mechanism.

DOGE turned out to be a temporary appeasement for the early, MAGA supporters. It was clearly short-lived and was never meant to make any real or lasting difference. The money "saved" by DOGE has been grossly overspent on the Military Industrial Complex.

We've already gone from around $36 Trillion in debt when Trump took office to more than $39 Trillion today. So, in essence, DOGE was a complete waste of time.

 

[dblack]

Makes sense. I enjoy debating normal conservatives on policy. The Trump cult is different. They are religious about Trump and excuse and lie about everything. It’s crazy. I remember when the conservatives supported free trade, fiscal responsibility, strong alliances, values and tradition… not this crew.

It's just partisan politics. Loyalty to your "side" is everything, even if it means defending the indefensible.

 

[ChristisKing]

It's just partisan politics. Loyalty to your "side" is everything, even if it means defending the indefensible.

Yeah, but both sides are guilty of that you know, but I'm already pretty sure that you do.