Zone1 What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist?

[Procrustes Stretched]

It is implied all over the board. And I dont play that troll game

Failure!


Come on eagle1462010

You could not show one of Dante's posts that is anti-Semitic. Could not provide a link.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do Christian Arabs hate Israel or Jews?

I have no idea. I am not familiar with the orthodoxy of Arab Christian sects. Egyptian Christians are Copts. Oh. Did you think they were all catholic perhaps? Get that KGV Bible out here. What does it say about the Chaldeans?

I do know what Muslims believe because I have a Quran and I read it. I have discussed the Islamic view of Jews with various Imams. I know exactly how they are commanded.

 

[IM2]

Israel will eventually be invaded and suffer massive loss of life but those who commit that atrocity will be utterly destroyed. Not only their troops, but even the home nations thay came from.

That Israel will be destroyed also and a new one begins under it's true leadership.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I have no idea. I am not familiar with the orthodoxy of Arab Christian sects. Egyptian Christians are Copts. Oh. Did you think they were all catholic perhaps? Get that KGV Bible out here. What does it say about the Chaldeans?

I do know what Muslims believe because I have a Quran and I read it. I have discussed the Islamic view of Jews with various Imams. I know exactly how they are commanded.

Why do I have trouble believing you?

Oh wait! Your avatar, your posts, your stupid scream name, and...

never mind.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why do I have trouble believing you?

Oh wait! Your avatar, your posts, your stupid scream name, and...

never mind.

Your belief systems is one of the things hampering your intellect.

I can only glean from your nonsense, that Christian sects that don't follow the Bible version here never occurred to you. You think it's just a lie to confuse you.

Sorry you are confused anyway. We never even got to Yazidis!

 

[eagle1462010]

Why do I have trouble believing you?

Oh wait! Your avatar, your posts, your stupid scream name, and...

never mind.

What if Israel Ceased to exist? Troll thread posting anti jew bs.

How do you like the sea water in tunnels Akmed

 

[MarathonMike]

If we had a time machine and we could travel back to 1947, would we find a different location to create a new country for Jewish Refugees or do the same thing again? I would opt for a different location not located near Muslims.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What if Israel Ceased to exist? Troll thread posting anti jew bs.

How do you like the sea water in tunnels Akmed

So speaking about a hypothetical regarding the state of Israel?

Why not link? Oh yeah, it would expose you as a liar and a cheat.

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state.

The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy.

Zone1 - What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist?

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state. The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy. noun: Zionism a movement...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[eagle1462010]

So speaking about a hypothetical regarding the state of Israel?

Why not link? Oh yeah, it would expose you as a liar and a cheat.

Zone1 - What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist?

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state. The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy. noun: Zionism a movement...

www.usmessageboard.com

Could care less about your pravda.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

If we had a time machine and we could travel back to 1947, would we find a different location to create a new country for Jewish Refugees or do the same thing again? I would opt for a different location not located near Muslims.

I probably would not have supported the creation. The creation's premise that the world is not a safe place for Jews. Yet they survived and thrived in spite of some pogroms etc. Jews in America and many other countries do well and are relatively safe. The troubles these days seem all to be linked to the state of Israel, whether it be settlements of crazed neighbors.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Could care less about your pravda.

Pravda? Truth Social? Now go chase some imaginary monsters elsewhere.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

How do you like the sea water in tunnels Akmed

Could care less about those tunnels.

 

[MarathonMike]

I probably would not have supported the creation. The creation's premise that the world is not a safe place for Jews. Yet they survived and thrived in spite of some pogroms etc. Jews in America and many other countries do well and are relatively safe. The troubles these days seem all to be linked to the state of Israel, whether it be settlements of crazed neighbors.

Anyone can understand the context of the times, but even then there were many who had serious reservations of the creation and the turmoil it would cause in the region. How right they were.

 

[Pastelli]

RACIST MOTIVATED POSTING BY 'luiza' WHO SUPPORT CHILD KILLERS JIHADISTS

 

[JoeB131]

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state.

The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy.



I've known Israeli's that fight the view of Israel as a religious state. I've known Jews who are not pro Zionism. I've personally marched with and in support of Jewish refusniks and others. I've argued with proteges of Noam Chomsky who were so anti Israel it was impossible to take their claims seriously. I am no fan of Noam, but when a man is right Dante give shim the credit due.

Noam Chomsky: On the weaponisation of false anti-Semitism charges against radical progressive movements - Noam Chomsky

Chomsky: It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

diem25.org

Fifty years ago, the distinguished Israel statesman Abba Eban wrote that “One of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is not a distinction at all. Anti-Zionism is merely the new anti-Semitism.”

As the examples he gives make crystal clear (e.g., the committed Zionist I.F. Stone), by “anti-Zionism” he means criticism of the policies of the government of Israel and some sympathy for Palestinians.

That principle has become a last-ditch defense of apologists for Israel crimes under the occupation. Any critic, any proponent of Palestinian rights, can be tarred as an anti-Semite. This weapon has recently been wielded to great effect against Jeremy Corbyn in a campaign of vulgar deceit and slander that is shocking even beyond the disgraceful norm.

It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

I. F. Stone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The real question is, when (not if) the system of ZIonist Apartheid ends, will the Jews be able to live in peace with the Non-Jewish majority of Palestine?

As much as the dire predictions of white blood in the streets, when Apartheid ended in South Africa, white folks kept much of their wealth and continued on with their lives. GDP of South Africa has continued to grow.

I don't know if the same would be possible in Palestine because the Zionists have been far more awful in their behavior than the White Afrikaaner parties in South Africa.

 

[martybegan]

It's not an odd question. The context is Israel existing as a result of the political movement -- Zionism.

While Israel is technically not a theocracy, it is the closest thing the world has to one. For decades, I was a blind supporter of Israel. Israel grew until the enemies of it no longer pose an existential threat. But Israel is not so innocent when it comes to the troubles there. I can't help but think of a famous Nietzsche quote here...

Dude, you forget about Iran?

The voters can only vote for candidates selected by a council of Religious leaders....

 

[AZrailwhale]

The real question is, when (not if) the system of ZIonist Apartheid ends, will the Jews be able to live in peace with the Non-Jewish majority of Palestine?

As much as the dire predictions of white blood in the streets, when Apartheid ended in South Africa, white folks kept much of their wealth and continued on with their lives. GDP of South Africa has continued to grow.

I don't know if the same would be possible in Palestine because the Zionists have been far more awful in their behavior than the White Afrikaaner parties in South Africa.

South African GDP has been trending up since 1960, but the rate of increase has been much shallower since the Whites stopped running the country:

South Africa GDP - Historical Data
Year	GDP	Per Capita	Growth
2022	$405.87B	$6,776	2.04%
2021	$419.02B	$7,055	4.91%
2020	$337.62B	$5,742	-6.34%
2019	$388.53B	$6,689	0.30%
2018	$404.16B	$7,049	1.52%
2017	$381.45B	$6,734	1.16%
2016	$323.59B	$5,735	0.66%
2015	$346.71B	$6,205	1.32%
2014	$381.20B	$6,965	1.41%
2013	$400.89B	$7,441	2.49%
2012	$434.40B	$8,174	2.40%
2011	$458.20B	$8,737	3.17%
2010	$417.36B	$8,060	3.04%
2009	$329.75B	$6,444	-1.54%
2008	$316.13B	$6,252	3.19%
2007	$333.08B	$6,662	5.36%
2006	$303.86B	$6,140	5.60%
2005	$288.87B	$5,893	5.28%
2004	$255.81B	$5,268	4.55%
2003	$197.02B	$4,096	2.95%
2002	$129.09B	$2,708	3.70%
2001	$135.43B	$2,867	2.70%
2000	$151.75B	$3,242	4.20%
1999	$151.52B	$3,268	2.40%
1998	$152.98B	$3,336	0.50%
1997	$168.98B	$3,731	2.60%
1996	$163.23B	$3,655	4.30%
1995	$171.74B	$3,904	3.10%
1994	$153.51B	$3,548	3.20%
1993	$147.19B	$3,461	1.23%
1992	$146.96B	$3,519	-2.14%
1991	$135.20B	$3,305	-1.02%
1990	$126.05B	$3,161	-0.32%
1989	$108.06B	$2,794	2.39%
1988	$103.98B	$2,781	4.20%
1987	$96.54B	$2,673	2.10%
1986	$73.35B	$2,103	0.02%
1985	$64.46B	$1,910	-1.21%
1984	$84.87B	$2,590	5.10%
1983	$96.20B	$3,019	-1.85%
1982	$85.90B	$2,769	-0.38%
1981	$93.14B	$3,081	5.36%
1980	$89.41B	$3,035	6.62%
1979	$63.04B	$2,197	3.79%
1978	$51.61B	$1,847	3.01%
1977	$45.33B	$1,666	-0.09%
1976	$41.15B	$1,554	2.25%
1975	$42.91B	$1,664	1.70%
1974	$41.39B	$1,650	6.11%
1973	$33.26B	$1,364	4.57%
1972	$24.52B	$1,034	1.65%
1971	$23.41B	$1,016	4.28%
1970	$21.22B	$949	5.25%
1969	$19.26B	$887	4.72%
1968	$17.12B	$814	4.15%
1967	$15.82B	$775	7.20%
1966	$14.21B	$718	4.44%
1965	$13.07B	$681	6.12%
1964	$11.96B	$643	7.94%
1963	$10.85B	$602	7.37%
1962	$9.81B	$561	6.18%
1961	$9.23B	$543	3.84%
1960	$8.75B	$530	%

And it's very much IF not when.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state.

The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy.



I've known Israeli's that fight the view of Israel as a religious state. I've known Jews who are not pro Zionism. I've personally marched with and in support of Jewish refusniks and others. I've argued with proteges of Noam Chomsky who were so anti Israel it was impossible to take their claims seriously. I am no fan of Noam, but when a man is right Dante give shim the credit due.

Noam Chomsky: On the weaponisation of false anti-Semitism charges against radical progressive movements - Noam Chomsky

Chomsky: It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

diem25.org

Fifty years ago, the distinguished Israel statesman Abba Eban wrote that “One of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is not a distinction at all. Anti-Zionism is merely the new anti-Semitism.”

As the examples he gives make crystal clear (e.g., the committed Zionist I.F. Stone), by “anti-Zionism” he means criticism of the policies of the government of Israel and some sympathy for Palestinians.

That principle has become a last-ditch defense of apologists for Israel crimes under the occupation. Any critic, any proponent of Palestinian rights, can be tarred as an anti-Semite. This weapon has recently been wielded to great effect against Jeremy Corbyn in a campaign of vulgar deceit and slander that is shocking even beyond the disgraceful norm.

It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

I. F. Stone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting:

Yet some critics of Israel say they equate Zionism with a continuing project of expanding the Jewish state. That effort animates an Israeli government bent on settling ever more parts of the West Bank that some Israelis, as well as the United States and other Western powers, had proposed as a separate state for the Palestinian people. Expanding those settlements, to Israel’s critics, conjures images of “settler colonialists” and apartheid-style oppressors.

So for some Jews, the answer to the question is obvious. Of course anti-Zionism is antisemitism, they say: Around half the world’s Jews live in Israel, and destroying it, or ending its status as a refuge where they are assured of governing themselves, would imperil a people who have faced annihilation time and again.

“There is no debate,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, the chief executive of the Anti-Defamation League, which has been defining and monitoring antisemitism since 1913. “Anti-Zionism is predicated on one concept, the denial of rights to one people.”

Many Palestinians and their allies recoil just as fiercely: The equating of opposition to a Jewish state on once-Arab land — or opposition to its expansion — with bigotry is to silence their national aspirations, muffle political dissent and denigrate 75 years of their suffering.

Is Anti-Zionism Always Antisemitic? A Fraught Question for the Moment.

From the halls of Congress to America’s streets and universities, a once largely academic issue has roiled national discourse, inciting accusations of bigotry and countercharges of bullying.

www.nytimes.com

Is Anti-Zionism Always Antisemitic? A Fraught Question for the Moment.

From the halls of Congress to America’s streets and universities, a once largely academic issue has roiled national discourse, inciting accusations of bigotry and countercharges of bullying.

web.archive.org

 

[JoeB131]

South African GDP has been trending up since 1960, but the rate of increase has been much shallower since the Whites stopped running the country:

Apartheid ended in 1994 when the GDP was 153 Billion. It is today 405 Billion. Seems the brothers are doing fine.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Apartheid ended in 1994 when the GDP was 153 Billion. It is today 405 Billion. Seems the brothers are doing fine.

Right, no dependable electricity, food shortages, fuel shortages, rampant corruption. South Africa has the lowest life expectancy of any country in Africa. South Africa has the third highest number of people infected with HIV in Africa. Right, the brothers are doing just fine.