Zone1 What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist?

[GMCGeneral]

Yes, and like the Jews back then, the Palestinians have the UN backing.

The Jews NEVER had UN backing. The frigging UN has always been a joke.

 

[GMCGeneral]

For the record, that is the Jewish ancestral homeland as promised by G-d Himself to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac, not Ishmael (the bastard son). All end time events will culminate there when Moshiach returns to settle the score once and for all.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Not the same. I don’t hear mobs of thousands of people rallying wih calls to “kill all Canadians” and “kill all Germans!”

We need Israel as a safe harbor. The recent and extreme upswing in Jew-hate shows that now more than ever.

Some people are virulently anti the state of Israel, without hating all Jews.

Facts Matter

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Jews NEVER had UN backing. The frigging UN has always been a joke.

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

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history.state.gov

 

[GMCGeneral]

Some people are virulently anti the state of Israel, without hating all Jews.

Facts Matter

Uhh, by extension they DO hate Jews. Sorry, but to deny Israel is denying the Jewish right to sovereignty.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

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history.state.gov

Nice try, but when TURD World dictators, Communists, and far Left whackjobs like yourself populate the UN, the end result is always clear. The US and Israel need to be destroyed, according to your ilk.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

For the record, that is the Jewish ancestral homeland as promised by G-d Himself to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac, not Ishmael (the bastard son). All end time events will culminate there when Moshiach returns to settle the score once and for all.

We don't rely on centuries old religious texts. We live in the 21st century.

thank you for exposing yourself.

 

[Flash]

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state.

The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy.



I've known Israeli's that fight the view of Israel as a religious state. I've known Jews who are not pro Zionism. I've personally marched with and in support of Jewish refusniks and others. I've argued with proteges of Noam Chomsky who were so anti Israel it was impossible to take their claims seriously. I am no fan of Noam, but when a man is right Dante give shim the credit due.

Noam Chomsky: On the weaponisation of false anti-Semitism charges against radical progressive movements - Noam Chomsky

Chomsky: It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

diem25.org

Fifty years ago, the distinguished Israel statesman Abba Eban wrote that “One of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is not a distinction at all. Anti-Zionism is merely the new anti-Semitism.”

As the examples he gives make crystal clear (e.g., the committed Zionist I.F. Stone), by “anti-Zionism” he means criticism of the policies of the government of Israel and some sympathy for Palestinians.

That principle has become a last-ditch defense of apologists for Israel crimes under the occupation. Any critic, any proponent of Palestinian rights, can be tarred as an anti-Semite. This weapon has recently been wielded to great effect against Jeremy Corbyn in a campaign of vulgar deceit and slander that is shocking even beyond the disgraceful norm.

It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

I. F. Stone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Don't care if any Middle East country, including Israel, ceased to exist. Not important.

It ain't our war.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Uhh, by extension they DO hate Jews. Sorry, but to deny Israel is denying the Jewish right to sovereignty.

That is still about the state and not Jews. People can and do go against Israel as a state, while not hating JEws.

Facts Matter

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Nice try, but when TURD World dictators, Communists, and far Left whackjobs like yourself populate the UN, the end result is always clear. The US and Israel need to be destroyed, according to your ilk.

Another hater with juvenile labels, name calling.

How old are you?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Don't care if any Middle East country, including Israel, ceased to exist. Not important.

It ain't our war.

I agree.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What if the State of Israel Ceased to Exist? Just the state itself, not the people of the state.

The Zionist movement is political, but I keep hearing people speak of it as if it were a religious movement, as if they agree the state is some version of a theocracy.



I've known Israeli's that fight the view of Israel as a religious state. I've known Jews who are not pro Zionism. I've personally marched with and in support of Jewish refusniks and others. I've argued with proteges of Noam Chomsky who were so anti Israel it was impossible to take their claims seriously. I am no fan of Noam, but when a man is right Dante give shim the credit due.

Noam Chomsky: On the weaponisation of false anti-Semitism charges against radical progressive movements - Noam Chomsky

Chomsky: It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

diem25.org

Fifty years ago, the distinguished Israel statesman Abba Eban wrote that “One of the chief tasks of any dialogue with the Gentile world is to prove that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is not a distinction at all. Anti-Zionism is merely the new anti-Semitism.”

As the examples he gives make crystal clear (e.g., the committed Zionist I.F. Stone), by “anti-Zionism” he means criticism of the policies of the government of Israel and some sympathy for Palestinians.

That principle has become a last-ditch defense of apologists for Israel crimes under the occupation. Any critic, any proponent of Palestinian rights, can be tarred as an anti-Semite. This weapon has recently been wielded to great effect against Jeremy Corbyn in a campaign of vulgar deceit and slander that is shocking even beyond the disgraceful norm.

It would not be surprising if DiEM25 is soon subjected to the same treatment as its success increases and its outreach grows. Be prepared.

I. F. Stone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Poor CrusaderFrank

 

[Flash]

I agree.

What happens in the Middle East doesn't even deflect on my Give a Shit O'Meter.

The bastards over there have fighting each other for the last 3,000 years. No matter how much of our money we give the goddamn Israelis or anybody else they will be fighting for the next 3,000 years.

It ain't our war.

 

[BackAgain]

So lots of people do something and that makes everyone else suspect? Hmm... Okay.

That’s what you derived? Seriously? Ok.

Trollboi, It's already been stated that Dante is no fan of Noam. Dante has battled a few proteges of Noam on this subject

3rd person troll-boi narcissistically talks about what it allegedly believes as if he had the slightest cred. He doesn’t.

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Oh! and there you go again with the juvenile personal insults. I can and do refute Noam and argue against him without resorting to juvenile name calling

Zzz. If dull was an Olympic event you’d get the attention you crave. Your other star turn event would be hypocrisy.

Toddle off now kid. Toddle off.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What happens in the Middle East doesn't even deflect on my Give a Shit O'Meter.

The bastards over there have fighting each other for the last 3,000 years. No matter how much of our money we give the goddamn Israelis or anybody else they will be fighting for the next 3,000 years.

It ain't our war.

You spent an awful lot of bandwidth on this. But ok

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That’s what you derived? Seriously? Ok.


3rd person troll-boi narcissistically talks about what it allegedly believes as if he had the slightest cred. He doesn’t.


Zzz. If dull was an Olympic event you’d get the attention you crave. Your other star turn event would be hypocrisy.

Toddle off now kid. Toddle off.

 

[BackAgain]

Wave your gay pride flag, dainty.

You go gurrrl.

 

[Flash]

You spent an awful lot of bandwidth on this. But ok

I can afford it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Poor CrusaderFrank

GFY and drop fucking dead and not in that exact order

 

[eagle1462010]

What if the middle east ceased to exist? Would it really be missed?