Zone1 What are Your Deepest Confusions About God?

[kyzr]

But he did control everything. He decided that humans were bad, and he had a hissy fit and he killed every innocent animal, but two, and he killed most humans, but kept like 8. Killing most things isn't "tweaking".

He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah too. Some things piss him off.

Sodom and Gomorrah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Will he allow WW3 because of wickedness? Stay tuned.

 

[Meriweather]

Right....

What did you learn from the story? How did it guide your life?

 

[sparky]

Conspiracy theory much?

Denial much Ding?

have you heard of theocracies?

they exist

look what they're amounting to on this rock

~S~

 

[ding]

Denial much Ding?

have you heard of theocracies?

they exist

look what they're amounting to on this rock

~S~

I don't believe I'm in denial. I don't see a theocracy here. I don't know of anyone asking for a theocracy here. All I see is you tilting at windmills. Your arguments are all fur coat and no knickers as far as I am concerned. You throw out vague generalizations that have no basis in fact. It's nothing but innuendo and propaganda.

Attacking the dominant religion of the land is nothing new. Happens here on a daily basis. It's just nice to know who is who.

 

[Meriweather]

have you heard of theocracies?

they exist

look what they're amounting to on this rock

Do these theocracies affect your relationship with others? If not, why let them affect your relationship with God?

 

[kyzr]

no, you have provided shallow generalizations, nothing new from flat earth desert dwellers than now, its dying atoms - their exercises of coercion and exploitation's for purposes only they can appreciate.

Re-read the links in post #84. The new James Webb telescope took precise measurements. The universe is accelerating outward.

You can type more nonsense if you like. Without scientific data to backup your claims they are non-expert"opinions".

Maybe you can understand a real scientific debate? I doubt it.


p.s. I wouldn't call others names when you are obviously uninformed.

 

[sparky]

Do these theocracies affect your relationship with others? If not, why let them affect your relationship with God?

They are the devil pretending to BE God Meri

One can not have any relationship with the almighty, or whatever god one hails to, with them seeking manipulation

~S~

 

[ding]

They are the devil pretending to BE God Meri

One can not have any relationship with the almighty, or whatever god one hails to, with them seeking manipulation

~S~

We should round them up.

 

[frigidweirdo]

He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah too. Some things piss him off.

Sodom and Gomorrah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Will he allow WW3 because of wickedness? Stay tuned.

Well, your argument was that he tweaks things. Now it's just that he gets angry about things. But didn't get angry about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot or any of the other nasty dictators in the 20th century, not Putin, Assad or the current crop.

Why not?

Surely an entity that is smart enough to create a universe could be smart enough to be consistent.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What did you learn from the story? How did it guide your life?

Are you suggesting it's a work of fiction?

 

[Meriweather]

Are you suggesting it's a work of fiction?

No.

 

[sparky]

We should round them up.

If one believes in the <Christian> God, then one believes in the devil as well

If one believes in revelations (Catholicism's stick, if you will) one believe St Michael will seek incarnation

Assuming this is so , and wanting to assume power and influence over humanity , just where would you exist to do so Ding?

~S~

 

[zaangalewa]

... Nowhere in scripture does it express that the Father and Son are the same being. ...

Wer euch hört, der hört mich. Und wer euch ablehnt, der lehnt mich ab. Aber wer mich ablehnt, der lehnt damit Gott selbst ab...
Jesus
Whoever hears you hears me. And whoever rejects you rejects me. But whoever rejects me rejects God himself...

Ever tried to think about sentences like this which are written in the authentic source "bible", which is not a god on its own but only a holy book? God did not end with the bible! God is now here directly in front of your eyes - but you do not see him, you do not feel him, you ignore him, isn't it? That's why you need to live and to love.



Ich steh an deiner Krippen hier,
o Jesu, du mein Leben;
ich komme, bring und schenke dir,
was du mir hast gegeben.
Nimm hin, es ist mein Geist und Sinn,
Herz, Seel und Mut, nimm alles hin
und lass dir’s wohlgefallen.

Da ich noch nicht geboren war,
da bist du mir geboren
und hast mich dir zu eigen gar,
eh ich dich kannt, erkoren.
Eh ich durch deine Hand gemacht,
da hast du schon bei dir bedacht,
wie du mein wolltest werden.

Ich lag in tiefster Todesnacht,
du warest meine Sonne,
die Sonne, die mir zugebracht
Licht, Leben, Freud und Wonne.
O Sonne, die das werte Licht
des Glaubens in mir zugericht’,
wie schön sind deine Strahlen.

Ich sehe dich mit Freuden an
und kann mich nicht satt sehen;
und weil ich nun nichts weiter kann,
bleib ich anbetend stehen.
O dass mein Sinn ein Abgrund wär
und meine Seel ein weites Meer,
dass ich dich möchte fassen.

Du fragest nicht nach Lust der Welt
noch nach des Leibes Freuden;
du hast dich bei uns eingestellt,
an unsrer Statt zu leiden,
suchst meiner Seele Herrlichkeit
durch Elend und Armseligkeit;
das will ich dir nicht wehren.

Eins aber, hoff ich, wirst du mir,
mein Heiland, nicht versagen,
dass ich dich möge für und für
in meinem Herzen tragen.
So lass mich doch dein Kripplein sein;
komm, komm und lege bei mir ein
dich und all deine Freuden.

-----

I stand here at your manger,
O Jesus, my life;
I come, bring and give you
what you have given me.
Receive, it is my spirit and mind,
heart, soul and courage, take it all
and let it please you.

When I was not yet born,
you were born to me
and made me your own,
before I knew you.
Before I was made by your hand,
thou hadst already considered with thee
how you wanted to become mine.

I lay in the deepest night of death,
you were my sun,
the sun that brought me
Light, life, joy and bliss.
O sun, which the precious light
of faith in me,
how beautiful are your rays.

I look at you with joy
and cannot see enough of you;
and because I can do nothing more,
I remain standing in adoration.
O that my mind were an abyss
and my soul a wide sea,
that I might grasp you.

You do not ask for the pleasures of the world
nor after the pleasures of the body;
thou hast set thyself with us,
to suffer in our stead,
seeking my soul's glory
through misery and wretchedness;
I will not deny you this.

But one thing, I hope, you will not deny me,
my Savior, you will not deny me,
that I may carry you for ever and ever
in my heart.
So let me be your little crib;
come, come and lay with me
You and all your joys.

 

[zaangalewa]

If one believes in the <Christian> God, then one believes in the devil as well ...

No. I'm afraid more or less everyone knows the devil (... who knows himselve ... and the world all around ...) - so it's not really wise to believe in him. God is the creator - no one else is. And I assume god is also the light of all knowledge. Darkness is not able to overcome the light.

By the way, sparky, what is "humanity" for you if not a kind of Christianity "light" without god? But why should a human being be human? On biological reasons? ... An information for you in this context which nearly no one likes to see: Nearly all leading Nazis had been educated to be humanists. Successless, I would say.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No.

Then, God killing almost all living animals because he had a hissy fit.

It tells you God is an asshole

 

[luiza]

How does the Cult God get rid of his own waste?

What does the Big Shit do with his Big Shit?

Same question for the Esssene Monk .

Are new stars actually lumps of Heavenly waste?

 

[Meriweather]

Then, God killing almost all living animals because he had a hissy fit.

It tells you God is an asshole

It doesn't tell me any of that.

The Bible: The Word of God, written in the words of man.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It doesn't tell me any of that.

The Bible: The Word of God, written in the words of man.

I'm sure it doesn't. I'm sure you get whatever you want out of it. When you see "stone adulterers to death", I'm sure you see "vote adulterers to be President".

 

[Meriweather]

They are the devil pretending to BE God Meri

One can not have any relationship with the almighty, or whatever god one hails to, with them seeking manipulation

The devil doesn't pretend to be God.or something that he is not. That would be insulting to himself as he holds the opinion his own ways are above the ways of God.

Do you hold a fear of being manipulated by the clergy and/or the Vatican? They are not the powerful.

 

[zaangalewa]

How does the Cult God get rid of his own waste?

What does the Big Shit do with his Big Shit?

Same question for the Esssene Monk .

Are new stars actually lumps of Heavenly waste?

Slave of Putin, tell your master to end his stupid, senseless and criminal war on Europe in the borderland. Leave the Ukraine with all of your soldiers. Yesterday.