Zone1 Near death experiencer asks God why The Holocaust was allowed?

Pretty much didn't say the opposite.
I did, as anyone can read for themselves.

You, being of low capability and/or effort, decided to invent a point nobody made that more suited your fetishes and neuroses.

Which you do quite often.
 
Well, I'm at least happy for him that he realized that much.
Yes, he has done interviews and spoken at so many meeting since his near death experience that he was one of the major leaders in the near death experiencer group, who had became a Christian Theologian, as opposed to going very New Age. His youtube channel has about a hundred and eighty videos. I've seen probably ten more more of them and they are exceptionally well done.

He gave an astonishing over view of the next few centuries that does fit perfectly with ever prediction in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the Prophets of Judaism but also with the Book of Revelation. But the fact that he does it in clear modern English is extremely helpful.


Howard Storm shows how Atheists are not really judged by religious rules but simply on how they interact with the other people in their lives. All Atheist near death experiencers verify that that is true.


[Howard Storm] :
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4. The Life Review of Howard Storm​

Next, they wanted to talk about my life. To my surprise my life played out before me, maybe six or eight feet in front of me, from beginning to end.

The life review was very much in their control, and they showed me my life, but not from my point of view. I saw me in my life and this whole thing was a lesson, even though I didn’t know it at the time. They were trying to teach me something, but I didn’t know it was a teaching experience, because I didn’t know that I would be coming back. We just watched my life from beginning to the end. Some things they slowed down on, and zoomed in on and other things they went right through.

My life was shown in a way that I had never thought of before. All of the things that I had worked to achieve, the recognition that I had worked for, in elementary school, in high school, in college, and in my career, they meant nothing in this setting.

I could feel their feelings of sorrow and suffering, or joy, as my life’s review unfolded. They didn’t say that something was bad or good, but I could feel it. And I could sense all those things they were indifferent to. They didn’t, for example, look down on my high school shot-put record. They just didn’t feel anything towards it, nor towards other things which I had taken so much pride in.

What they responded to was how I had interacted with other people. That was the long and short of it. Unfortunately, most of my interactions with other people didn’t measure up with how I should have interacted, which was in a loving way. Whenever I did react during my life in a loving way they rejoiced.
... [Howard Storm]

 
I know right? I remember we couldn't get real healthcare reform past all the sellout senators so we had to allow the insurance giants a seat at the table and they wrote the ACA. It was a gift to them.

Don't forget what they put in Obamacare. Every American citizen MUST buy insurance or get hit when you file your taxes.

I remember I wasn't making jack shit and my monthly for healthcare was $300 a month. My employer re embursed me but then as soon as he stopped I cancelled it. No way I could have afforded $300 a month.
If we Christian conservatives truly understood and applied the teachings of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus we would be very different than we have been over these past decades.

Near death experiencer Howard Storm at the fifty seven minute mark in this interview talks about his having asked about The Holocaust during his brush with death. Hearing his testimony in person is impressive. All of us can learn a lot from former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm.

All of the horrors on this earth throughout history have been caused by human beings making decisions and experiencing the results of our decisions. We modern Christians are terrible "backslidden, lukewarm and fully of idolatry."

Skipping to the fifty seven minute mark is worthwhile but I listened to all of this interview again this morning because this is fascinating to me.


Howard Storm Interview STUNNING AND LIFE CHANGING NDE 2001​


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Howard Storm, an avowed atheist, was awaiting emergency surgery when he realized that he was at death’s door. Storm found himself out of his own body, looking down on the hospital room scene below. Next, rather than going “toward the light,” he found himself being torturously dragged to excruciating realms of darkness and death, where he was physically assaulted by monstrous beings of evil. Finally, drawn away from death and transported to the realm of Heaven, Storm met angelic beings as well as the God of Creation. Storm was sent back to his body with a new knowledge of the purpose of life here on earth.

I am sixty six and I believe that I was guided probably less than ten percent of the time, [probably less than five percent of the time], during my lifetime. I believe that I am only a fraction of what I could have been if I had prayed and asked to be given more and more and more of the Holy Spirit as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus prayed and asked to be given wisdom and more of the Holy Spirit while He was human.
Hebrews 5:7
In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard for his godly fear.
 
If we Christian conservatives truly understood and applied the teachings of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus we would be very different than we have been over these past decades.

Near death experiencer Howard Storm at the fifty seven minute mark in this interview talks about his having asked about The Holocaust during his brush with death. Hearing his testimony in person is impressive. All of us can learn a lot from former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm.

All of the horrors on this earth throughout history have been caused by human beings making decisions and experiencing the results of our decisions. We modern Christians are terrible "backslidden, lukewarm and fully of idolatry."

Skipping to the fifty seven minute mark is worthwhile but I listened to all of this interview again this morning because this is fascinating to me.


Howard Storm Interview STUNNING AND LIFE CHANGING NDE 2001​




I am sixty six and I believe that I was guided probably less than ten percent of the time, [probably less than five percent of the time], during my lifetime. I believe that I am only a fraction of what I could have been if I had prayed and asked to be given more and more and more of the Ho

ly Spirit as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus prayed and asked to be given wisdom and more of the Holy Spirit while He was human.

In other words if you were a better person you could have been much more? Maybe. Possibly. I hate when people say they have no regrets in life.

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I prefer Howard Stern's take on God to Howard Storm's. But I will watch the last few minutes to see what he has to say.
 
If we Christian conservatives truly understood and applied the teachings of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus we would be very different than we have been over these past decades.

Near death experiencer Howard Storm at the fifty seven minute mark in this interview talks about his having asked about The Holocaust during his brush with death. Hearing his testimony in person is impressive. All of us can learn a lot from former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm.

All of the horrors on this earth throughout history have been caused by human beings making decisions and experiencing the results of our decisions. We modern Christians are terrible "backslidden, lukewarm and fully of idolatry."

Skipping to the fifty seven minute mark is worthwhile but I listened to all of this interview again this morning because this is fascinating to me.


Howard Storm Interview STUNNING AND LIFE CHANGING NDE 2001​




I am sixty six and I believe that I was guided probably less than ten percent of the time, [probably less than five percent of the time], during my lifetime. I believe that I am only a fraction of what I could have been if I had prayed and asked to be given more and more and more of the Holy Spirit as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus prayed and asked to be given wisdom and more of the Holy Spirit while He was human.

I have listened enough. Why would I listen to one more minute of what this guy has to say?

He's not convincing or making any compelling arguments. He's just a believer telling us what he BELIEVES.

How come Jews get to go to heaven? They have heard the Jesus story and yet they reject it. Why do they get a pass on this?
 
Near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm specifically asked The Being of Light of near death experience fame why The Holocaust had been allowed to occur?

What he was told in reply does help us to understand why the horrors of history had been permitted. Our Creator is working out a Master Plan that will eventually make sense out of all terrible events of history.




Former Atheist and near death experiencer Ms. Beverly Broadsky also asked about the horrors of history during her near death experience and eventually all of her questions were answered to her satisfaction.



Beverly Brodsky’s Near-Death Experience

BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2019
Fascinating. I'm going to look deeper into this. 👍
 
You know, the answer this man was given as to why the Holocaust happened sounds like that of a politician.
In a way that is a somewhat good thing because ultimately all of us are faced with a choice in how to view the horrible events of history on earth, or even in our own lives and in the lives of our families and friends.

I am right now listening to that lecture by near death experiencer Howard Storm that is in two parts that is close to two hours long. The way that he gives the context for his 1985 NDE is extremely impressive.

He attains a level of intellectual honest about his own failings in life before his near death experience that is quite rare on this third rock. It is obvious that Howard Storm does not believe that his near death experience was any sort of a hallucination.
 
I have listened enough. Why would I listen to one more minute of what this guy has to say?

He's not convincing or making any compelling arguments. He's just a believer telling us what he BELIEVES.

How come Jews get to go to heaven? They have heard the Jesus story and yet they reject it. Why do they get a pass on this?
Thank you for beginning to listen to Howard Storm.

You are obviously a bright guy....
you live in a free country....
why would such a bright guy like you listen to near death experiencer Howard Storm when you might miss some larger boobs on Netflix?????!

Your choice... but Howard Storm was SHOCKED to find his consciousness outside of his physical body. Sooner or later all of us will have one of these Life Reviews of a death experience or near death experience.

His entire account on video, is especially convincing due to his humility and willingness to be totally transparent about his failings and selfishness of his life before his NDE.

Seven or eight years ago I got tired of just watching too much Netflix and by 2020 I found an online Theological college led by a near death experiencer and I did over two hundred of his courses so far. This was a much better way to use my time than catching up on history, [and magnificent boobs], through "Spartacus" and "Marco Polo." Digging into these metaphysical topics is a good way to invest our time. Sooner or later our children or grandchildren will ask us questions.

My daughter's favourite near death experiencer was that of Ms. Jan Price who met her previously deceased dog, during her brush with death.


[Ms. Jan Price] :

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4. Her Love Connection with Her Dog Maggi​

As the density changed, becoming lighter and finer, I felt that I was being lifted to another level of awareness – and then I found myself in surroundings that appeared to be more substantial – Maggi was there. My beautiful dog, my beloved springer, came to me. She had died less than a month before, and John and I still ached from her absence.

I felt her presence, her love, and she appeared to me as she had when she was in physical form – only younger, more vital. She said: “You know that Daddy can’t handle both of us being gone right now.”

“Yes, I’m going back,” I replied. “Will you come soon?”

“When it is time, we will know. Now I will show you wondrous things. Let’s explore together.”

If you are having difficulty accepting the idea that my first encounter on the other side was with a dog, you aren’t the only one. While John thought it perfectly natural, one of our daughters became a little, upset when I told her about it. I think she would have preferred that her mother be greeted by Jesus, an angel, or at least by a family member. I did meet a Master Teacher – I’ll get to that later – but Maggi came first. After all, she had been close “family” for many years, and whoever is responsible for setting up the Welcome Wagon over there certainly knew what a delightful experience it would be for me to be greeted by her.

[Ms. Jan Price]






The Near-Death Experience of Jan Price​

 
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Thank you for beginning to listen to Howard Storm.

You are obviously a bright guy....
you live in a free country....
why would such a bright guy like you listen to near death experiencer Howard Storm when you might miss some larger boobs on Netflix?????!

Your choice... but Howard Storm was SHOCKED to find his consciousness outside of his physical body. Sooner or later all of us will have one of these Life Reviews of a death experience or near death experience.

His entire account on video, is especially convincing due to his humility and willingness to be totally transparent about his failings and selfishness of his life before his NDE.

Seven or eight years ago I got tired of just watching too much Netflix and by 2020 I found an online Theological college led by a near death experiencer and I did over two hundred of his courses so far. This was a much better way to use my time than catching up on history, [and magnificent boobs], through "Spartacus" and "Marco Polo." Digging into these metaphysical topics is a good way to invest our time. Sooner or later our children or grandchildren will ask us questions.

My daughter's favourite near death experiencer was that of Ms. Jan Price who met her previously deceased dog, during her brush with death.








The Near-Death Experience of Jan Price​


I've heard a 1000 Howard Storms talk about the delusions they experienced while in a coma, knocked out or in the minute they flatlined. Doesn't prove a thing.

You listening to that nonsense tells me you really want it to be true. That's called wishful thinking. Nothing logical to what he's saying. It's certainly not scientific.

I don't find him convincing at all. Perhaps you were convinced even before you started listening to what he has to say.

This is reminding me of fire and brimstone baptist ministers. When I listen what I hear is a bullshitter who is all over the place. Reminds me of Trump doing the Weave. What is the message of the sermon? What ISN'T? Seems the pastor covered every issue in his 30 minute rant. But guys like you walk out of church claiming you know what he was talking about. And I leave with more questions than when I first walked in.
 
You said he has a Master Plan that will eventually make sense out of all terrible events of history?

That is so stupid. Think about all the people who died during the Holocaust and how much time has passed since then. I'm sure by now the plan has been revealed? Is it obvious to us now why God permitted Hitler to do what he did to all those people?

Or the one little girl who was saved in the plane where 299 other people perished. What has she done with her life?

Let's be honest. Humans will exist on this planet another 1.75 billion years if we are lucky. There is no plan. God isn't a puppet master who's pulling strings. If anything he made the universe and is letting the chips fall where they may. So he isn't watching you. Doesn't care. Can't do anything about it. Or won't.
Right, because if life is not resolved to YOUR satisfaction in YOUR lifetime, it will never be resolved.
 
I've heard a 1000 Howard Storms talk about the delusions they experienced while in a coma, knocked out or in the minute they flatlined. Doesn't prove a thing.

You listening to that nonsense tells me you really want it to be true. That's called wishful thinking. Nothing logical to what he's saying. It's certainly not scientific.

I don't find him convincing at all. Perhaps you were convinced even before you started listening to what he has to say.

This is reminding me of fire and brimstone baptist ministers. When I listen what I hear is a bullshitter who is all over the place. Reminds me of Trump doing the Weave. What is the message of the sermon? What ISN'T? Seems the pastor covered every issue in his 30 minute rant. But guys like you walk out of church claiming you know what he was talking about. And I leave with more questions than when I first walked in.
Yes, I plead guilty to your accusation that I do want it to be true.

I do understand your position somewhat though because I actually became an Atheist not that long after hearing a "Hellfire and Brimstone" sermon on TV by Dr. Billy Graham back around 1966.

A year or so later I was taught Evolutionary Theory in school and voila, I became a rather angry Atheist who promoted Atheism to my friends.

I must admit that the near death experience of former Atheist Howard Storm does appeal more so to Baptists or Evangelical Christians.

I personally though believe that the Howard Storm testimony is the other side to a statement that was made to the extremely positive and uplifting near death experience account of Mr. John J. Davis.

I personally do believe that Mr. John J. Davis probably did meet Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and Jesus gave him one sentence to elaborate on and explain to anybody who would listen to him.


[John J. Davis, near death experiencer] :

Wildflower Meadow​

Here’s the last part of my near-death experience. My guide took me to what I can only describe as an absolutely beautiful meadow. There were rolling hills, beautiful flowers, green grass. It was a perfect day.

And then my guide left. I thought I was standing there by myself, and then, all of a sudden, a man showed up in front of me. Nobody told me it was him; I just knew that it was Jesus. He was different from everyone else. I could see his hands, and I could see his feet. I could see what he was wearing. He had a white robe on with a golden sash around his waist, and he had gold-colored sandals that laced up his calves, but he was so bright I couldn’t make out his facial features. Jesus had so much energy and so much light that was pouring out of him.

He said something to me, and it is something I have tried to do my entire life since then. It was like my assignment somehow. Jesus said, “You must tell them there is no death.”

Right after he said those words, I immediately woke up back in the hospital room. I asked the surgeon what happened, and he said, “We lost you. You were gone for seven minutes.”

Ever since then, I’ve been doing what Jesus asked me to do. I’ve been telling people that something happens after we pass, and it’s something absolutely beautiful. There is so much hope and so much joy, which we forget about here because life can be very hard.

There are a lot of hard times in life, and we are not supposed to remember the other side. But when you see someone who has had these experiences, it gives you hope. There is a reason for all of this. It’s all real, and we live for eternity. There is really no end. When people cross over and leave us here, they are not gone from us—we will see them again.




I am forced to consider that the Howard Storm testimony is the dark side to the idea that Jesus might well say:
"Jesus said, you must teach them, there is no death." [John J. Davis]


Here is an exceptionally good interview with this near death experiencer who, free of charge has done many interviews like this, plus he also speaks at churches or other places when he is invited.



GOOSEBUMPS! Most Detailed Near-Death Experience EVER Recorded: Tour of Heaven | John J. Davis​

 
I've heard a 1000 Howard Storms talk about the delusions they experienced while in a coma, knocked out or in the minute they flatlined. Doesn't prove a thing.
I haven't the interest/patience to hear/read a thousand near death experiences. It's not that I don't believe in them, or believe them delusions, but some that were proven/confessed to be false I spotted in an instant. I tend to be especially cautious of those claiming to have a message or future prophecy or explanation for/of the world.

It is a waste of time to look for or even want proof.
 
I haven't the interest/patience to hear/read a thousand near death experiences. It's not that I don't believe in them, or believe them delusions, but some that were proven/confessed to be false I spotted in an instant. I tend to be especially cautious of those claiming to have a message or future prophecy or explanation for/of the world.

It is a waste of time to look for or even want proof.

Good point. We rely on Scripture, not someone's supposed near death experience.

Quantrill
 
The root cause or reason for the holocaust is found in (Matt. 27:24-25) "When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing....washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children." And so it has been and will be till Christ returns.

A secondary reason for the holocaust is that God wanted the Jews back in the land. God was ready to begin establishing Israel as a nation again, a people of His own. The Jews were doing well in Europe. They had no reason to go back to a pile of rocks in Palestine. The holocaust gave the Gentiles a reason to create the nation of Israel, and gave the Jews a reason to go there. Which is what God wanted.

Quantrill
 
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I think God's idea was to allow us free will. Divine intervention is only a rare option. Some people smuggle drugs across the border but some never make it past the Tijuana check point. :cool:

Yes, and one near death experiencer reports being shown Adolf Hitler during his 1982 brush with death. Adolf Hitler was still going through a very long Life Review where he felt all that happened to his victims who he had ordered to be murdered.

I now believe that oblivion after our death does not happen. But there is a scary side to the afterlife and we all should pray and ask to be given true and genuine repentance for every evil, selfish, narcissistic, or egotistical idea that we still have in us. I believe that we need the help of the Holy Spirit to sincerely repent and change.

So former Atheist Howard Storm was shown victims of Adolf Hitler going to heaven but Adolf Hitler himself was stuck in a terrifying Life Review even thirty seven years after his death in 1945.


Man Died and went from Hell to Heaven - Part two- Ep. 11​

 
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I find each NDE to be subjective.
If they were relating universal truths, then they would all walk away with the same experience and information.
On the other hand the fact that Atheists seem to have their biggest questions answered. Jewish near death experiencer have their questions answered. Christian and New Age, Hindu or Buddhist near death experiencer have their most troubling questions answered. This variety in NDE accounts is actually rather impressive if you ask me.
 
On the other hand the fact that Atheists seem to have their biggest questions answered. Jewish near death experiencer have their questions answered. Christian and New Age, Hindu or Buddhist near death experiencer have their most troubling questions answered. This variety in NDE accounts is actually rather impressive if you ask me.
I don't know.
 
Yes, I plead guilty to your accusation that I do want it to be true.

I do understand your position somewhat though because I actually became an Atheist not that long after hearing a "Hellfire and Brimstone" sermon on TV by Dr. Billy Graham back around 1966.

A year or so later I was taught Evolutionary Theory in school and voila, I became a rather angry Atheist who promoted Atheism to my friends.

I must admit that the near death experience of former Atheist Howard Storm does appeal more so to Baptists or Evangelical Christians.

I personally though believe that the Howard Storm testimony is the other side to a statement that was made to the extremely positive and uplifting near death experience account of Mr. John J. Davis.

I personally do believe that Mr. John J. Davis probably did meet Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and Jesus gave him one sentence to elaborate on and explain to anybody who would listen to him.

I am forced to consider that the Howard Storm testimony is the dark side to the idea that Jesus might well say:

Here is an exceptionally good interview with this near death experiencer who, free of charge has done many interviews like this, plus he also speaks at churches or other places when he is invited.



GOOSEBUMPS! Most Detailed Near-Death Experience EVER Recorded: Tour of Heaven | John J. Davis​


Why did you get angry after learning about evolution?

Wouldn't it be great if he actually met God? Then you would know for sure God is real. And let's be honest. That's what you are looking for.

Free of charge? Who would pay these fools to listen to their delusions?

Ever notice only Catholics get possessed by the Devil and need to have an exorcism? Isn't that funny? As much of a blasphemer as I am, Satan NEVER tries to possess my soul.

ROT IN HELL YOU MOTHER ******!!!

That was just me talking. Not Satan. LOL

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