We can't afford to get it wrong..........again.

[jknowgood]

At this point, it looks like Trump was right more often than the experts and their bogus recommendations. So how the hell can we be sure social distancing and quarantining healthy people did anything? How do we know anything about a second wave? How do we even know there will be a second wave? One thing we know for sure is that Democrat governors policies are causing an economic disaster either intentionally or through their own stupidity. Start getting back to work, now.

I have to ask, are you being sarcastic? If not, to the extent your post is representative of Trumpleton thinking, we have much bigger long term problems than this virus poses.

Remember if you get the virus and on your death bed. Do not take Trumps suggestion. Your hatred for Trump is worth more than your life.

 

[berg80]

When do you think the Economy should reopen?

The decision should be data dependent, and made on a regional basis, not an arbitrary date based on wishful thinking. I'm simply suggesting we need to be smart about this. Trying to move faster than the required systems in place allows for ultimately means the economy will take longer to completely re-open.

 

[berg80]

......well, when you don't answer basic questions

And your question is.................?

 

[Polishprince]

When do you think the Economy should reopen?

The decision should be data dependent, and made on a regional basis, not an arbitrary date based on wishful thinking. I'm simply suggesting we need to be smart about this. Trying to move faster than the required systems in place allows for ultimately means the economy will take longer to completely re-open.

The "data" will never met the "experts'" required, waiting for Fauci et al to order the economy to reopen and you'll wait forever.

Fauci has achieved Rock Star Status is the current pandemic. People Magazine has said he is officially the "Sexiest Man Alive". He isn't going to call an end to that, after so many decades as just an egghead.

 

[harmonica]

......well, when you don't answer basic questions

And your question is.................?

it's in my initial post-----why did you not want to answer it?

 

[berg80]

The "data" will never met the "experts'" required, waiting for Fauci et al to order the economy to reopen and you'll wait forever.

You are flatly wrong about that. You are only saying to to try to make the position of the medical experts appear extreme. It isn't. It may be more cautious than you'd like, but there is a rational reason for that.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

When do you think the Economy should reopen?

The decision should be data dependent, and made on a regional basis, not an arbitrary date based on wishful thinking. I'm simply suggesting we need to be smart about this. Trying to move faster than the required systems in place allows for ultimately means the economy will take longer to completely re-open.

Trump just gave the decision to reopen to the states based on how theyre affected. That's how it should be done.

 

[Polishprince]

The "data" will never met the "experts'" required, waiting for Fauci et al to order the economy to reopen and you'll wait forever.

You are flatly wrong about that. You are only saying to to try to make the position of the medical experts appear extreme. It isn't. It may be more cautious than you'd like, but there is a rational reason for that.

You don't think that the Medical Experts would love to wait until 2025, 2030 or beyond? That Hitlerette in Lansing is beaming in ecstasy as she has been able to close the state's churches but keep open the Abortion Mills and Grass Shops.

 

[berg80]

it's in my initial post-----why did you not want to answer it?

Ah yes, that question. The list of mistakes by China, the WHO, the CDC, and the US government have been discussed ad infinitum. Do you really think it's necessary to go over them again?

 

[berg80]

Trump just gave the decision to reopen to the states based on how theyre affected. That's how it should be done.

And yet he undermined his own guidelines by encouraging protests against against them.

 

[Missourian]

When do you think the Economy should reopen?

The decision should be data dependent, and made on a regional basis, not an arbitrary date based on wishful thinking. I'm simply suggesting we need to be smart about this. Trying to move faster than the required systems in place allows for ultimately means the economy will take longer to completely re-open.

Stop being such a pussy. Either put on your big boy pants and get back to work or hide in your basement sucking your thumb and clutching your security blanket.

Some of us have been working this whole time. If we could take the risk from the beginning through the peak, you can take a much smaller risk now.

 

[Polishprince]

When do you think the Economy should reopen?

The decision should be data dependent, and made on a regional basis, not an arbitrary date based on wishful thinking. I'm simply suggesting we need to be smart about this. Trying to move faster than the required systems in place allows for ultimately means the economy will take longer to completely re-open.

Trump just gave the decision to reopen to the states based on how theyre affected. That's how it should be done.

That's going to be the secret to getting the whole country open. Pennsylvania led by a socialist and a She Male Secretary of Health may hesitate. But Ohio will open first and I'll travel the couple of miles to the next state, no problem. Wolf will have to reopen or lose that economic activity forever and the taxation.

 

[Polishprince]

Trump just gave the decision to reopen to the states based on how theyre affected. That's how it should be done.

And yet he undermined his own guidelines by encouraging protests against against them.

What's wrong with encouraging the people to let their voices be heard?

 

[wamose]

Berg the Babbler ....that's a lot of babbling

Berg the Babbler. That's good. He kinda reminds me of Cuomo the babbler. A whole lot of talk but no real substance.

 

[kyzr]

Trump just gave the decision to reopen to the states based on how theyre affected. That's how it should be done.

And yet he undermined his own guidelines by encouraging protests against against them.

Trump is calling for some sanity in the state shutdowns, and not "one size fits all".
Michigan is a perfect example. Keep the cities closed, but out in the boonies let the people earn a living with mitigation measures.
There is no excuse for not allowing people to fish, and then allow abortions.
In our area, the halt to elective surgeries, especially joint replacements, means that hospitals are laying off OR staff, and if this keeps up the hospitals may close.

 

[harmonica]

it's in my initial post-----why did you not want to answer it?

Ah yes, that question. The list of mistakes by China, the WHO, the CDC, and the US government have been discussed ad infinitum. Do you really think it's necessary to go over them again?

..those aren't mistakes........this is a NEVER BEFORE thing!!! and you expect HUMANS to STOP a virus????!!!!!!!!!!??????!!!!!! to know what to do for something we've never seen before???
.....we can't stop the common cold!!!!! ...it's like wars---there always have been wars and always will be
..it's like 9-11/WW2/Boston Bombing/etc
..I guess Churchill/Stalin/Bush/FDR/etc etc all made mistakes that could have stopped ALL the world's problems.......?????!!!
= IDIOCY

 

[harmonica]

BERG---the PERFECT person---never made a ''''mistake'''' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he's really inhuman

 

[Missourian]

The "data" will never met the "experts'" required, waiting for Fauci et al to order the economy to reopen and you'll wait forever.

.

Plus he has a vested interest in being overly cautious. It's his metaphorical neck on the line. Being overly cautious is the safest bet...and if the threat of collapsing the economy wasn't in the mix, I'd be right there with him. But the cure at this point is absolutely more dangerous than the disease. We know now that social distancing works.

Make a mask...stay away from folks as much as possible and we'll be fine.

But the dishonest dems like the OP don't want the economy to take off again. They want POWER. And if that means advocating crashing the economy to achieve it with fear mongering threads like this ... Then that's what they are willing to do.

It's despicable...but due to forum rules I'm not allowed to tell you what I think they deserve.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Berg may be down in his basement forever.

Coronavirus vaccine may never be developed, warns expert - but it could burn out

Professor Ian Frazer, one of the world's leading vaccine inventors, explained why developing a vaccine for Covid-19 could be "tricky", but added that the virus could also fade away

www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[CWayne]

Consider this.............

What we can learn from the “second wave” of coronavirus cases in Asia

What we can learn from the "second wave" of coronavirus cases in Asia

Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan show the challenges of fighting this pandemic.

www.vox.com

Why Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore saw another coronavirus wave — and will likely see more
Hong Kong’s bump in coronavirus infections, beginning in March, was relatively small, and largely attributed to people returning to the territory from places overseas where the coronavirus was then spreading rapidly, such as the United Kingdom, Europe, and the United States.

..........and this................

#FloridaMorons trends after people flock to reopened Florida beaches

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/18/florida-beaches-reopen-coronavirus/

Aerial snapshots of people flocking to a reopened beach in Jacksonville, Fla., made waves on the Internet on Saturday.
Local news aired photos and videos of Florida’s shoreline dotted with people, closer than six feet apart, spurring #FloridaMorons to trend on Twitter after Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) gave the go-ahead for local beachfront governments to decide whether to reopen their beaches during a news briefing Friday. Duval and St. Johns counties have reopened their beaches, while Miami-Dade County officials said they are considering following suit.

.............and this.

‘Liberate’: Trump tweets support of protests against stay-at-home orders

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/17/liberate-trump-tweets-support-protesting-against-stay-at-home-orders/

President Trump encouraged protesters in Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia who are defying social distancing orders to rally against the states’ safety measures intended to stop the coronavirus spread.
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It's understandable people are getting frustrated with being required to stay at home. Both for reasons of the natural human desire to socialize and for financial reasons. Millions of families were already living month to month with little savings despite a strong job market. Being put out of work has exposed their vulnerability to not having the means to cover an unexpected $1,000 expense.

But here's the thing. The government and corporate America have taken on an enormous amount of debt to try to keep the economy from collapsing as it has been forced to grind to a virtual halt. Hopes for a re-opening of the economy has resulted in a partial rebound of the financial markets. Social distancing measures have worked. Crucially, the stress on the medical system has subsided somewhat. And the country is clearly eager to return to some degree of normalcy.

However, we can't afford to make the mistake of moving too quickly only to see setbacks cause another wave of infections leading to a re-imposition of stay at home orders. There is too much at stake to risk that. The near universal warning from medical experts is it's too early for a restart. Testing is still inadequate, the rate of viral spread is too big, and medical facilities are still too stressed. Which is not to say small measures can't be taken on a regional basis to get things moving again. But we have to be patient and disciplined. We can not allow ourselves to be pressured in to acting too soon based on a political agenda. We've come too far to take chances now.

YOU are the fearmonger, understand?