Trump pledges to protect Americans and end birthright citizenship by executive order on day one.

[BS Filter]

Yes, we need to. An EO is not going to do anything but give the faithful a woody.

Sadly, the country is far too divided to every amend the Constitution again. Right now I doubt we could get 75% of the country to agree the sky is blue if they were told it was by a politician from one party or the other

Stop voting for lawyers.

 

[surada]

I think you got confused lol

Yes, I have heard of it. Being a citizen does not guarantee you whole family can come live here

That's called chain migration like Trump bringing Melania's parents from Slovakia.

 

[Billiejeens]

So you used the coloreds to do the dirty work now you want to throw them out? Even as 2nd class citizens you continue to exploit and you want them gone?

Who will you exploit after they're gone?

Dumbass people
Be worried

 

[dblack]

There's a whole lot of Black people who are suddenly racist in this country. Why do you support illegal immigrants?

Why do you support rapists?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Stop voting for lawyers.

I pretty much don't.

The last 3 people I voted for POTUS were business people.

Though in I have to admit that in 08 I voted for Barr and he is a lawyer.

 

[80zephyr]

It would require a Constitutional Amendment you dumb Bingos, not just a law written by Congress. Only another Amendment can take precedence over a pervious Amendment.

Nope. Just the correct interpretation of the Amendment.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

 

[80zephyr]

So is Trump. US law is US jurisdiction. Anyone on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction.

What other country's laws have jurisdiction in the US?

Anchor babies in the US have no other citizenship but US citizenship.

Trump is incredibly stupid.

Really? Are you telling me that a baby born to American citizens in Germany are not American citizens by birth?

 

[Curried Goats]

Nope. Just the correct interpretation of the Amendment.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

You proof is an opinion? I'll ask again. How can the original intent of the 14th Amendment be meant to exclude illegal aliens when there was no such thing at the time the 14th was written.

 

[BS Filter]

Why do you support rapists?

You didn't answer my question. Why do you support illegal immigrants?

 

[surada]

Really? Are you telling me that a baby born to American citizens in Germany are not American citizens by birth?

Of course they are Americans by birth. The parents register the birth at the nearest US embassy or consulate. The baby gets a US passport so the parents the baby through US Customs and Immigration.

Haven't you ever done that?

 

[surada]

Nope. Just the correct interpretation of the Amendment.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

Read the statute.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Billiejeens]

You proof is an opinion? I'll ask again. How can the original intent of the 14th Amendment be meant to exclude illegal aliens when there was no such thing at the time the 14th was written.

It was not meant to include them.
Clearly.

 

[surada]

It was not meant to include them.
Clearly.

Jesus. Trump is the dumbest man on two legs. Read the statute.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Billiejeens]

Jesus. Trump is the dumbest man on two legs. Read the statute.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

Terrorist, please!

 

[Curried Goats]

It was not meant to include them.
Clearly.

How is that clear? This country had open borders in the 1800s. Basically anyone who wanted to come here could come and be an American. The only people excluded from that were natives and slaves. Hence the necessity of the 14th. The first restrictions on immigration didn't come until the Naturalization Act of 1906 which required Immigrants to learn English in order to become American.

 

[BS Filter]

Nope. Just the correct interpretation of the Amendment.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans - The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - interpretations and misinterpretations - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

How is that clear? This country had open borders in the 1800s. Basically anyone who wanted to come here could come and be an American. The only people excluded from that were natives and slaves. Hence the necessity of the 14th. The first restrictions on immigration didn't come until the Naturalization Act of 1906 which required Immigrants to learn English in order to become American.

Why was the 14th Amendment needed?

 

[surada]

Terrorist, please!

Trump is too stupid to read the statute. He thinks he can muscle his way over the US Constitution.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[80zephyr]

You proof is an opinion? I'll ask again. How can the original intent of the 14th Amendment be meant to exclude illegal aliens when there was no such thing at the time the 14th was written.

It is a quote from the author of the amendment. Any court should understand what was meant by what the author said. So it is possible to ban anchor babies without changing the constitution.

“On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit of the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”​

― Thomas Jefferson

 

[Curried Goats]

Why was the 14th Amendment needed?

Because everyone born here was already considered a citizen except for the people they wanted to keep as slaves.

 

[80zephyr]

Of course they are Americans by birth. The parents register the birth at the nearest US embassy or consulate. The baby gets a US passport so the parents the baby through US Customs and Immigration.

Haven't you ever done that?

But you said: Anchor babies in the US have no other citizenship but US citizenship.