Trump has not WON the war. He has given Iran new ammunition/war tools that they did not have before

[Nostra]

DOJ not prosecuting them either.

Why would they charge the underage girls?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We all have seen the vid over and over. She was trying to get away from a man with a raised weapon. I would have ran him over there and then. Him or thee, you or me? Guess what.

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[westwall]

No. We did when we and the UK overthrew their government before that and installed the Shah.

This is why we should leave the region.

What you seem to be ignoring is that guy assassinated the legit leader before him. Why do you leave that fact out?

 

[Chuz Life]

Let us look at this the way it is.

1) Iran has now realized that they have a lot of power by using the Strait of Hormuz (closing it), which causes "worldwide" negatives occurring.
2) Trump and Netanyahu threw everything they had at Iran and they are still alive and being able to affect the world
3) Trump cabinet members, as well as loyal supporters, have begun to doubt Trump. In fact, Radcliff, Hegseth, and Rubio doubting the Iran deal.
4) Trump goes against Netanyahu (criticizes him) for not doing what Trump asked him to do with this war, thus creating a possible rift with Israel.

Links or info

1) AI Overview


Rahm Emanuel has voiced strong criticism of the recent U.S.-Iran conflict and the subsequent peace deal, arguing that the U.S. squandered its leverage.
Key points from his recent commentary include:

• The "Nuclear Option" & Lost Leverage: Emanuel has repeatedly argued that the U.S. entered the conflict to degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities but failed to foresee that Iran held a major trump card: control over the Strait of Hormuz. He described this as a self-inflicted strategic blunder where the U.S. lost power and was forced to ease restrictions to stabilize the global energy supply.
• Better Prior Offers Ignored: Emanuel highlighted that the administration had a diplomatic offer from Iran that was far superior to the original 2015 JCPOA. By choosing a military conflict, he argued the U.S. made a poor choice that unnecessarily alienated critical Gulf allies who were "shunted aside" during the process. [1, 2]
• Erosion of Moral Authority: Emanuel asserted that the U.S. lost diplomatic and moral standing. He contrasted the U.S. approach—which he characterized as posturing and escalating threats without clear geopolitical objective

2) AI Overview


The U.S. and Israel executed massive joint bombing campaigns, notably during the Twelve-Day War and Operation Epic Fury, significantly degrading Iranian infrastructure, assassinating Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and destroying nuclear sites. However, Iran's fundamental state structures and underground nuclear sites survived, prompting the U.S. to pursue diplomatic agreements rather than attempting a total regime collapse.

The survival and resilience of the Iranian state through these extensive bombings can be attributed to several key factors highlighted by defense experts and intelligence assessments:

• Deeply Fortified Facilities: Many of Iran's primary nuclear operations, such as the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant and the Natanz Nuclear Facility, are built deep underground or inside mountains. Despite utilizing massive ordnance penetrators, parts of Iran's enriched uranium stockpiles and sensitive equipment survived.
• Decentralized and Hidden Assets: While American and Israeli strikes successfully destroyed major command centers and airfields, Iran's missile launch capabilities and proxy networks (such as Hezbollah) were largely decentralized, enabling continuous counter-attacks against U.S. bases in the Gulf and targets in Israel.
• Asymmetric Retaliation: Instead of standing conventional ground, Iran leveraged asymmetric warfare, including drone strikes, naval positioning in the Strait of Hormuz, and attacks on allied Gulf states, which quickly resulted in severe global energy and economic concerns, forcing rapid ceasefires.

Consequently, military strategists and analysts on LessCredibleDefence largely agree that while the campaigns inflicted severe physical and leadership damage, they did not entirely dismantle Iran's military and regional threat capabilities. [1]

3)
From Hegseth to Rubio, even Trump’s top team doubts Iran deal, report says

4)

Considering these facts, Trump has not notched a win, it is a loss.

More Trump Incompetence?

How much does the IRGC owe you for doing their bidding?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

We all have seen the vid over and over. She was trying to get away from a man with a raised weapon. I would have ran him over there and then. Him or thee, you or me? Guess what.

Liar

 

[jacksonlamb]

You miss all the Bill Clinton hot tub pics with underage girls?

Meaningless in comparison to the Orange Grifter

 

[jacksonlamb]

Stupid is as stupid does.

As the Agent will eventually find out.

 

[Kruska]

What you seem to be ignoring is that guy assassinated the legit leader before him. Why do you leave that fact out?

What "guy" supposedly assassinated which "legit leader" before him????

Mohammad Mossaddegh - didn't assassinate anyone.

 

[jacksonlamb]

We all saw it.

We all have seen the vid over and over. She was trying to get away from a man with a raised weapon. I would have ran him over there and then. Him or thee, you or me? Guess what.

Idiocracy: Liar

 

[westwall]

What "guy" supposedly assassinated which "legit leader" before him????

Mohammad Mossaddegh - didn't assassinate anyone.

Oh, but he and his group did indeed assassinate the duly elected leader. That's how he came to power.

 

[Kruska]

Oh, but he and his group did indeed assassinate the duly elected leader. That's how he came to power.

No - Mossaddegh, who was from the National Front party, had no connections at all to Khalil Tahmassebi who was from the Fadayan Islam (Crusaders of Islam) encouraged by Mullah Kashani who issued a Fatwa against Ali Razmara.
You are construing something here that didn't take place.

Tahmassebi's next call was on Navab Safavi, hard-working boss of the terrorist Fadayan Islam (Crusaders of Islam), which plotted Razmara's killing. Safavi was himself in jail on suspicion of murdering other moderates, but in present-day Iran that is a mark of distinction. The two wept at the reunion, and Tahmassebi said: "Thanks to God we succeeded in our task." Over fruits and sweets served in his cozy cell,Safavi boasted: "I am such a powerful man that if I decide at any time, the gates of this prison will be opened to me . . . I pray God not to let our chests go to the grave without having been pierced by bullets."

The above excerpt is even from an anti-Iranian and Mossaddedh - TIME article from 1952.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0%2C9171%2C817453%2C00.html

 

[Correll]

Let us look at this the way it is.

1) Iran has now realized that they have a lot of power by using the Strait of Hormuz (closing it), which causes "worldwide" negatives occurring.
2) Trump and Netanyahu threw everything they had at Iran and they are still alive and being able to affect the world
3) Trump cabinet members, as well as loyal supporters, have begun to doubt Trump. In fact, Radcliff, Hegseth, and Rubio doubting the Iran deal.
4) Trump goes against Netanyahu (criticizes him) for not doing what Trump asked him to do with this war, thus creating a possible rift with Israel.

Links or info

1) AI Overview


Rahm Emanuel has voiced strong criticism of the recent U.S.-Iran conflict and the subsequent peace deal, arguing that the U.S. squandered its leverage.
Key points from his recent commentary include:

• The "Nuclear Option" & Lost Leverage: Emanuel has repeatedly argued that the U.S. entered the conflict to degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities but failed to foresee that Iran held a major trump card: control over the Strait of Hormuz. He described this as a self-inflicted strategic blunder where the U.S. lost power and was forced to ease restrictions to stabilize the global energy supply.
• Better Prior Offers Ignored: Emanuel highlighted that the administration had a diplomatic offer from Iran that was far superior to the original 2015 JCPOA. By choosing a military conflict, he argued the U.S. made a poor choice that unnecessarily alienated critical Gulf allies who were "shunted aside" during the process. [1, 2]
• Erosion of Moral Authority: Emanuel asserted that the U.S. lost diplomatic and moral standing. He contrasted the U.S. approach—which he characterized as posturing and escalating threats without clear geopolitical objective

2) AI Overview


The U.S. and Israel executed massive joint bombing campaigns, notably during the Twelve-Day War and Operation Epic Fury, significantly degrading Iranian infrastructure, assassinating Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and destroying nuclear sites. However, Iran's fundamental state structures and underground nuclear sites survived, prompting the U.S. to pursue diplomatic agreements rather than attempting a total regime collapse.

The survival and resilience of the Iranian state through these extensive bombings can be attributed to several key factors highlighted by defense experts and intelligence assessments:

• Deeply Fortified Facilities: Many of Iran's primary nuclear operations, such as the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant and the Natanz Nuclear Facility, are built deep underground or inside mountains. Despite utilizing massive ordnance penetrators, parts of Iran's enriched uranium stockpiles and sensitive equipment survived.
• Decentralized and Hidden Assets: While American and Israeli strikes successfully destroyed major command centers and airfields, Iran's missile launch capabilities and proxy networks (such as Hezbollah) were largely decentralized, enabling continuous counter-attacks against U.S. bases in the Gulf and targets in Israel.
• Asymmetric Retaliation: Instead of standing conventional ground, Iran leveraged asymmetric warfare, including drone strikes, naval positioning in the Strait of Hormuz, and attacks on allied Gulf states, which quickly resulted in severe global energy and economic concerns, forcing rapid ceasefires.

Consequently, military strategists and analysts on LessCredibleDefence largely agree that while the campaigns inflicted severe physical and leadership damage, they did not entirely dismantle Iran's military and regional threat capabilities. [1]

3)
From Hegseth to Rubio, even Trump’s top team doubts Iran deal, report says

4)

Considering these facts, Trump has not notched a win, it is a loss.

More Trump Incompetence?

How many iranians were killed and how much does that weight in, in your mind?

 

[marvin martian]

Let us look at this the way it is.

1) Iran has now realized that they have a lot of power by using the Strait of Hormuz (closing it), which causes "worldwide" negatives occurring.
2) Trump and Netanyahu threw everything they had at Iran and they are still alive and being able to affect the world
3) Trump cabinet members, as well as loyal supporters, have begun to doubt Trump. In fact, Radcliff, Hegseth, and Rubio doubting the Iran deal.
4) Trump goes against Netanyahu (criticizes him) for not doing what Trump asked him to do with this war, thus creating a possible rift with Israel.

Links or info

1) AI Overview


Rahm Emanuel has voiced strong criticism of the recent U.S.-Iran conflict and the subsequent peace deal, arguing that the U.S. squandered its leverage.
Key points from his recent commentary include:

• The "Nuclear Option" & Lost Leverage: Emanuel has repeatedly argued that the U.S. entered the conflict to degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities but failed to foresee that Iran held a major trump card: control over the Strait of Hormuz. He described this as a self-inflicted strategic blunder where the U.S. lost power and was forced to ease restrictions to stabilize the global energy supply.
• Better Prior Offers Ignored: Emanuel highlighted that the administration had a diplomatic offer from Iran that was far superior to the original 2015 JCPOA. By choosing a military conflict, he argued the U.S. made a poor choice that unnecessarily alienated critical Gulf allies who were "shunted aside" during the process. [1, 2]
• Erosion of Moral Authority: Emanuel asserted that the U.S. lost diplomatic and moral standing. He contrasted the U.S. approach—which he characterized as posturing and escalating threats without clear geopolitical objective

2) AI Overview


The U.S. and Israel executed massive joint bombing campaigns, notably during the Twelve-Day War and Operation Epic Fury, significantly degrading Iranian infrastructure, assassinating Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and destroying nuclear sites. However, Iran's fundamental state structures and underground nuclear sites survived, prompting the U.S. to pursue diplomatic agreements rather than attempting a total regime collapse.

The survival and resilience of the Iranian state through these extensive bombings can be attributed to several key factors highlighted by defense experts and intelligence assessments:

• Deeply Fortified Facilities: Many of Iran's primary nuclear operations, such as the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant and the Natanz Nuclear Facility, are built deep underground or inside mountains. Despite utilizing massive ordnance penetrators, parts of Iran's enriched uranium stockpiles and sensitive equipment survived.
• Decentralized and Hidden Assets: While American and Israeli strikes successfully destroyed major command centers and airfields, Iran's missile launch capabilities and proxy networks (such as Hezbollah) were largely decentralized, enabling continuous counter-attacks against U.S. bases in the Gulf and targets in Israel.
• Asymmetric Retaliation: Instead of standing conventional ground, Iran leveraged asymmetric warfare, including drone strikes, naval positioning in the Strait of Hormuz, and attacks on allied Gulf states, which quickly resulted in severe global energy and economic concerns, forcing rapid ceasefires.

Consequently, military strategists and analysts on LessCredibleDefence largely agree that while the campaigns inflicted severe physical and leadership damage, they did not entirely dismantle Iran's military and regional threat capabilities. [1]

3)
From Hegseth to Rubio, even Trump’s top team doubts Iran deal, report says

4)

Considering these facts, Trump has not notched a win, it is a loss.

More Trump Incompetence?

You're a mullah-muncher.

 

[dudmuck]

You're a mullah-muncher.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

We all saw it.


Idiocracy: Liar

Pretend u have at least 1/4 the honor the uniform in your picture, and answer these questions....
Thread 'A little test what people think in regard to the Renee Good business' A little test what people think in regard to the Renee Good business

U r 2 big a puss though huh jackson?

 

[westwall]

No - Mossaddegh, who was from the National Front party, had no connections at all to Khalil Tahmassebi who was from the Fadayan Islam (Crusaders of Islam) encouraged by Mullah Kashani who issued a Fatwa against Ali Razmara.
You are construing something here that didn't take place.

Tahmassebi's next call was on Navab Safavi, hard-working boss of the terrorist Fadayan Islam (Crusaders of Islam), which plotted Razmara's killing. Safavi was himself in jail on suspicion of murdering other moderates, but in present-day Iran that is a mark of distinction. The two wept at the reunion, and Tahmassebi said: "Thanks to God we succeeded in our task." Over fruits and sweets served in his cozy cell,Safavi boasted: "I am such a powerful man that if I decide at any time, the gates of this prison will be opened to me . . . I pray God not to let our chests go to the grave without having been pierced by bullets."

The above excerpt is even from an anti-Iranian and Mossaddedh - TIME article from 1952.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0%2C9171%2C817453%2C00.html

According to his propagandist machine?

Ummm...no.

 

[Kruska]

According to his propagandist machine?

Ummm...no.

Meaning - I can't proof my allegations, and everything else is propaganda. classic MAGA.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump nor we won anything. We just gave itan and the mullahs 300 billion, four months after telling the citizens that help was on the way. Unacceptable.

BULLSHIT!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Iran has now realized that they have a lot of power by using the Strait of Hormuz (closing it), which causes "worldwide" negatives occurring.


Once the US navy leaves the area, who will prevent Iran from using Hormuz to blackmail the world? No one. Their proxies already controlled Bab el-Mandeb, another critical maritime chokepoint, for two years. If Israel keeps occupying and striking Lebanon for years, and i have no doubt it will, the strait of Hormuz will not return to normal.

Why would they leave?

 

[westwall]

Meaning - I can't proof my allegations, and everything else is propaganda. classic MAGA.

The problem you have is the elected leader was assassinated, and the new guy took over immediately.

Kinda like he was in on it.

Funny thing that.