Trump erupts: Macron said that Europe build its own military in order to protect itself from the US

[justinacolmena]

Get out of NATO already! It's a stupid European gun control treaty that should have died with the USSR. France and Germany don't hold up to their end of it anyway.

 

[basquebromance]

"Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia. But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two - How did that work out for France? They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not!

On Trade, France makes excellent wine, but so does the U.S. The problem is that France makes it very hard for the U.S. to sell its wines into France, and charges big Tariffs, whereas the U.S. makes it easy for French wines, and charges very small Tariffs. Not fair, must change!

The problem is that Emmanuel suffers from a very low Approval Rating in France, 26%, and an unemployment rate of almost 10%. He was just trying to get onto another subject. By the way, there is no country more Nationalist than France, very proud people-and rightfully so!

MAKE FRANCE GREAT AGAIN!"

By the way, when the helicopter couldn’t fly to the first cemetery in France because of almost zero visibility, I suggested driving. Secret Service said NO, too far from airport & big Paris shutdown. Speech next day at American Cemetary in pouring rain! Little reported-Fake News!" - President Trump

 

[Claudette]

Well lets bring out troops in Europe home. Save us some money.

Next time Europe is attacked they can defend themselves.

Sound like a good plan to me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

don't they have a war to go surrender?

A German is at French customs and is getting asked a few questions, the customs agent says, "sir, occupation?" and the German responds, "no, just visiting this time."

 

[basquebromance]

Macron is studiously conscious of the need to add gravity & pomp to his visible youth. the philosophy graduate's thoughts always roam higher, to the course of history, as he hopes to join Merkel in shaping Europe against the dark forces of illiberalism.

 

[McRocket]

"President Macron of France has just suggested that Europe build its own military in order to protect itself from the U.S., China and Russia. Very insulting, but perhaps Europe should first pay its fair share of NATO, which the U.S. subsidizes greatly!"
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) | Twitter

i call it World War Trump!

I call it a stupid ******* French tard, who all this time could of built their own military to defend themselves against the Commies of the Soviet Union, instead of relying on US and our taxes to support the ******, finally has the gall to insult US and I hope to hell, we get every military member out of that 3rd world shithole called Europe..

Macron was talking about cyber security...not military security.

 

[McRocket]

Trump is taking advantage of a general comment to stir the pot (again). For some inexplicable reason, there is a residue of dislike for America's oldest ally, France. Any reason is a good one to insult and belittle that nation and people. Even if Macron truly represent France and the French (a dubious assumption), the comment did not at all indicate military preparations for confrontation, merely the realization that in the present atmosphere, America's good will cannot be counted upon. If anything, it was much more an economic than a military reference.
Exaggerating the situation for ill defined goals does nothing but give the ignorant another rant.

Really? Why didn't you include the quote of what Macron said, because it contradicts every single word you just posted?

Listening to his radio interview clearly shows the context in which he spoke. Many sources and types of threats to France were mentioned. The known and demonstrated hostility of America to France has ramifications which require protective steps as well. European armed forces were discussed after this point.

Post the quote along with your comments so we can all see how screwed up your mind really is!

Here you go. Good luck.

Also, just a question; what tiny ego part is compelled to vomit an insult with almost every one of your posts?

I only insult those who deserve it. Just like some asshole who posts a radio interview in FRENCH!

He could be reading a recipe for vichyssoise for all I know, and likely neither do you!

Moron!

You are the moron.

It's a YouTube video. That means that you can get it subtitled into English....DUH.

Emmanuel Macron : son interview par Nikos Aliagas sur Europe 1 (INTEGRALE)

Go to 4:35-5:01 of the video and turn on English subtitles...though I seriously wonder if you can even manage that.


And, in case that is not enough for you, even a Canadian paper acknowledges that Macron was speaking about cyber attacks/cyber threats.

'Trump’s tweets included a fresh complaint about Macron’s recent suggestion that Europe build up its militaries because the continent can no longer depend on the U.S. for defence. He misrepresented the French leader’s comments along the way, even though the two presidents had talked through the issue while Trump was in France over the weekend for events marking the 100th anniversary of the end of the First World War.

“Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia,” Trump tweeted. “But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two — How did that work out for France? They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not!”

In fact, Macron had said Europe needs to protect itself against cyberthreats from China, Russia and the U.S. The French leader’s office said Trump had lumped together Macron’s remarks on protecting against cyberthreats with a later statement on military defence.

Gerard Araud, France’s ambassador to the U.S., challenged Trump, tweeting, “For the sake of truth, Pres.@EmmanuelMacron didn’t say that EU needed an army ‘against the US’.”'

Trump rips into Macron over suggestion of European defence force | The Star


Looks like you owe there4eyeM an apology for calling him/her a 'moron' on this.

But you almost certainly won't give it. Because if there is one thing I have learned about you Trumpbots - it's that you generally lack honor.


And don't bother replying to me - I won't read it as I have ZERO respect for you.

Have a nice day.

 

[basquebromance]

"How are we having to debate nationalism? It’s bad. It’s not patriotism on caffeine, it’s a perversion of patriotism. The nationalist starts with a warped belief that what’s bad for other countries is good for his, then he gets to thinking what’s bad for Others is good for him."

 

[Lesh]

Well lets bring out troops in Europe home. Save us some money.

Next time Europe is attacked they can defend themselves.

Sound like a good plan to me.

Wait...wasn't Trump just bitching that France wasn't contributing enough to their NATO obligation?

Their NATO obligation is to spend 2% on their military.

They're doing what he has claimed they are not doing...and now he's whining about it??

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

"How are we having to debate nationalism? It’s bad. It’s not patriotism on caffeine, it’s a perversion of patriotism. The nationalist starts with a warped belief that what’s bad for other countries is good for his, then he gets to thinking what’s bad for Others is good for him."

Who are you quoting?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well lets bring out troops in Europe home. Save us some money.

Next time Europe is attacked they can defend themselves.

Sound like a good plan to me.

Wait...wasn't Trump just bitching that France wasn't contributing enough to their NATO obligation?

Their NATO obligation is to spend 2% on their military.

They're doing what he has claimed they are not doing...and now he's whining about it??

They are NOT doing it yet. They have a goal to reach 2% by 2024.

Why do you lie?

 

[basquebromance]

Macron wants to put an end to the stale political divide between left and right with his new party, repair national confidence, and unleash stagnant France. the idea is a bit mad. but he will succeed!

 

[there4eyeM]

Macron is an arrivist and opportunist. His present actions are only serving to anger more and more people. Programs mount on the back of the middle and lesser classes to the advantage of his (very) rich support. Retirees see their earned retirement reduced, regressive taxes on gasoline and other essentials increase.
He's very bright, he speaks very well, he's young and good looking. Unfortunately, he has exhibited little in the way of new ideas and much in the way of exploitation of the majority.

 

[basquebromance]

with a preternatural self-confidence, & disconcerting taste for the imperial frills of power, Macron has in 1 short year slipped seamlessly into the part of president de la republique!

 

[Correll]

"How are we having to debate nationalism? It’s bad. It’s not patriotism on caffeine, it’s a perversion of patriotism. The nationalist starts with a warped belief that what’s bad for other countries is good for his, then he gets to thinking what’s bad for Others is good for him."

No, we don't. That is not what the definition of nationalism is.

 

[rightwinger]

Europe is learning to get by without US leadership
We are no longer a dependable ally

They saw what happened under Bush and the neocons. Crazy WMD theories and the mocking of those who did not believe them

Obama came in and patched things up with our allies. Temporary 9-11 craziness! Won't happen again

But then we gave them Trump to deal with....uneducated, impulsive man child

They will no longer trust us not to elect Republicans

 

[baileyn45]

An EU army will be used against the people of Europe, period.

 

[SweetSue92]

Well lets bring out troops in Europe home. Save us some money.

Next time Europe is attacked they can defend themselves.

Sound like a good plan to me.

This, this and this.

I have no idea why we call ourselves "allies" of Europe anymore. Outside of a very few nations, we are not, and they are getting far more out of our so-called alliance than we are.

I don't care what they think. Let them form their own army, and good luck with that, Europe.

 

[Lesh]

They are NOT doing it yet. They have a goal to reach 2% by 2024.

Why do you lie?

An EU army will be used against the people of Europe, period.

Hey dumbasses.

Trump is demanding that they spend more on defense (in other words beef up their military) and that is what France is doing.

Trump is now whining about them doing what he demanded they do and you dolts fall right in line behind Trump's insanity

 

[baileyn45]

They are NOT doing it yet. They have a goal to reach 2% by 2024.

Why do you lie?

An EU army will be used against the people of Europe, period.

Hey dumbasses.

Trump is demanding that they spend more on defense (in other words beef up their military) and that is what France is doing.

Trump is now whining about them doing what he demanded they do and you dolts fall right in line behind Trump's insanity

Paying more for NATO is one thing, a military force who's first targets will most likely be Hungary or Poland is another. Let's face it An EU Army will be controlled by Berlin, hardly an idea that would make Europeans feel better.