Trump about to whack solar with a tariff

[BlackFlag]

Trump promised to bring back the 19th century. This is just him keeping his promises.

 

[skookerasbil]

Solar Growth and the ITC
The Solar Investment Tax Credit (ITC) has provided industry stability and growth since its initial passage in 2006. In the last decade, solar has experienced an average annual growth rate of 68%. To learn more about the ITC and its impact on the solar industry, visit our ITC Policy Page.



Solar as an Economic Engine
Nearly 260,000 Americans work in solar - more than double the number in 2012 - at more than 9,000 companies in every U.S. state.

Solar Industry Facts and Figures

This will continue to grow. Simple economics.

It will grow..........but at a snails pace. Decades before it even gets to 5%. IDK......to use a bowling analogy, for solar advocates, its like having a huge celebration for knocking one pin down.

 

[skookerasbil]

Look at the posts by the progressives............tell me every single one of those mofu's isn't sporting one mega bumpy cucumber in the pie hole!!! The anger and misery.............its all you need to know!!!



WHO'S NOT WINNING???

 

[frigidweirdo]

"A steep rise in panel prices "could be huge and disastrous for large-scale solar," said Tom Werner, chief executive of San Jose-based SunPower Corp (SPWR.O), a top U.S. solar company that is majority owned by France's Total (TOTF.PA). "Developers are alarmed and planning."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-solar-insight-idUSKBN1AA0BI


So damn happy to see funding for solar projects in the shitter!! As it should be. Remember the days of Soetero where hundreds of billions of taxpayer money went up in smoke..........a disgrace...........a disaster.......except to the climate k00ks. Progressives never care about what things cost.........if the intentions are noble, the wasted money is money well spent = a mental disorder. Good to see President Trump kicking the mental cases square in the nutsack.

You're happy that renewable energy is going to suffer in the US, so oil giant companies can go back to making more profit, to give more to politicians, to go to more wars, so poor people suffer again?

Oh, great.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Look at the posts by the progressives............tell me every single one of those mofu's isn't sporting one mega bumpy cucumber in the pie hole!!! The anger and misery.............its all you need to know!!!



WHO'S NOT WINNING???

You think politics is a team sport?

Who isn't winning? The people.

 

[skookerasbil]

Look at the posts by the progressives............tell me every single one of those mofu's isn't sporting one mega bumpy cucumber in the pie hole!!! The anger and misery.............its all you need to know!!!



WHO'S NOT WINNING???

You think politics is a team sport?

Who isn't winning? The people.

Only in the bubble world s0n where progressives like to hang. In the real world, its all about winning. The climate crusaders were losing before Trump emerged..........now they are getting whacked upside of the head with a baseball bat on the ghey green fantasy shit.

It is regular Americans that benefit huge!!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Look at the posts by the progressives............tell me every single one of those mofu's isn't sporting one mega bumpy cucumber in the pie hole!!! The anger and misery.............its all you need to know!!!



WHO'S NOT WINNING???

You think politics is a team sport?

Who isn't winning? The people.

Only in the bubble world s0n where progressives like to hang. In the real world, its all about winning. The climate crusaders were losing before Trump emerged..........now they are getting whacked upside of the head with a baseball bat on the ghey green fantasy shit.

It is regular Americans that benefit huge!!

The New York hurricane the Greenie Gotcha Gang dishonestly attributed to global warming also happened in 1938 (700 dead), 1820, and from time immemorial. Being ignorant of history or taking advantage of those who are, the hoaxters will script any rare but recurring event as unique to the hydrocarbon era.

 

[eagle1462010]

Any product or company that cannot rise or fall without getting assistance from the Federal gov't is a FAILED INTERPRIZE.

Even with Tax payers money, Companies still went belly up...............

 

[eagle1462010]

$0.55 per watt from SolarCity's record-breaking new solar panel - ExtremeTech

2.5 Cents Per Kilowatt Hour: America's Cheapest, Cleanest Fuel 'Holds Steady'

 

[eagle1462010]

Solar power Green energy pundits use the SUN IS FREE.......................Look at the PRICES DROPPING.........

But what they don't tell you is that PER KWH they are MASSIVELY MORE EXPENSIVE than FOSSIL FUELS.

The ONLY THING THAT MATTERS..............is KWH...........Kilo....Watt.......Hours..........in which case the cost of installing a system at your home over time makes it COST INEFFECTIVE................in REAL TERMS OF COST.

I don't have any grievance with solar power or wind.............geo thermal power..............I have an issue with the OVERALL COSTS to power your home......

I have a problem as they YELL LOOKY HERE............PRICES ARE FALLING.........which they are.....but not on any level to compete with other fuels. Without Subsidies and tax breaks they are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE.

 

[SSDD]

Will he do that with another useless tweet? When you are spoiled rich boy draft dodger adulterer and fool, twitter is your only tool as your mind is so limited. (161)

This week in Trump World

The hypocrisy literally drips...I would bet dollars to donuts that you voted for clinton twice...and he not only dodged the draft, he wore his contempt for the military on his sleeve...and is "wife" was no better than him...and tell me, how much blood do you think the clintons have on their hands compared to the amount on trump's?

And talk about a limited mind...how many times did both bill and hillary say that they "couldn't remember under oath?

 

[SSDD]

Solar panels for personal use are a great bargain.

I keep my boat and camper batteries charged with solar cells when they are in storage..and I have a windmill as seen on sail boats that I keep a bank of batteries charged in my camper when we are traveling....and that is fine...but the very idea of using wind, or solar, or both to actually keep a society going is laughable. Hell, wind and solar combined couldn't keep North Korea lit and they only have a couple of hundred light bulbs in the entire country.

 

[danielpalos]

"A steep rise in panel prices "could be huge and disastrous for large-scale solar," said Tom Werner, chief executive of San Jose-based SunPower Corp (SPWR.O), a top U.S. solar company that is majority owned by France's Total (TOTF.PA). "Developers are alarmed and planning."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-solar-insight-idUSKBN1AA0BI


So damn happy to see funding for solar projects in the shitter!! As it should be. Remember the days of Soetero where hundreds of billions of taxpayer money went up in smoke..........a disgrace...........a disaster.......except to the climate k00ks. Progressives never care about what things cost.........if the intentions are noble, the wasted money is money well spent = a mental disorder. Good to see President Trump kicking the mental cases square in the nutsack.

Nothing like the right wing always being, behind the curve:

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

 

[eagle1462010]

"A steep rise in panel prices "could be huge and disastrous for large-scale solar," said Tom Werner, chief executive of San Jose-based SunPower Corp (SPWR.O), a top U.S. solar company that is majority owned by France's Total (TOTF.PA). "Developers are alarmed and planning."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-solar-insight-idUSKBN1AA0BI


So damn happy to see funding for solar projects in the shitter!! As it should be. Remember the days of Soetero where hundreds of billions of taxpayer money went up in smoke..........a disgrace...........a disaster.......except to the climate k00ks. Progressives never care about what things cost.........if the intentions are noble, the wasted money is money well spent = a mental disorder. Good to see President Trump kicking the mental cases square in the nutsack.

Nothing like the right wing always being, behind the curve:

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

Tesla/SolarCity/Silevo/Panasonic 1GW Buffalo fab’s known unknowns

Primarily, the vague first paragraph gave all that the companies were prepared to state about the manufacturing plans, which for reference is published below:

‘Tesla and Panasonic have finalized an agreement this week to begin the manufacturing of photovoltaic (PV) cells and modules at the Buffalo, NY factory. These high-efficiency PV cells and modules will be used to produce solar panels in the non-solar roof products. When production of the solar roof begins, Tesla will also incorporate Panasonic's cells into the many kinds of solar glass tile roofs that Tesla will be manufacturing. All of these solar products will work seamlessly with Tesla's energy storage products, Powerwall and Powerpack. Production of the first PV modules will begin in summer 2017, and will ramp to 1 Gigawatt of module production by 2019.’

Having read this paragraph countless times, the poor wording and structure seems to have been on purpose and the last part of the last sentence does not seem to relate to Panasonic’s involvement. Instead, this would seem to be a reference to the SolarCity/Silevo part of Buffalo fab.

There have been several push-outs to the timing of the original SolarCity/Silevo tool install phase(s) of the 1GW nameplate cell and module capacity since the facility was first announced back in June 2014.

 

[eagle1462010]

China is kicking our asses....................ring a bell..............

China is now the leading maker and supplier in the world for PV solar cells in the world.

They do so with CHEAP LABOR and virtually NO ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES............


So this move to TARIFF their products is a MEASURE OF PROTECTIONISM of Companies building Solar Cells in the United States like the one in Buffalo.

Trump is a NATIONALIST................He stated in the elections that he would go after TRADE DEFICITS with countries like China...........and is doing so in this move. So U.S. companies can compete for sales in our own country. And lower trade deficits with countries like China. He promised he would do so and this policy is an attempt to fulfill his promise.



This is NOT about the EFFICIENCY of SOLAR POWER.............

This is NOT about the cost per kwh of types of power..............

It is about Protectionism and restoring a Manufacturing base to our country.

 

[danielpalos]

"A steep rise in panel prices "could be huge and disastrous for large-scale solar," said Tom Werner, chief executive of San Jose-based SunPower Corp (SPWR.O), a top U.S. solar company that is majority owned by France's Total (TOTF.PA). "Developers are alarmed and planning."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-solar-insight-idUSKBN1AA0BI


So damn happy to see funding for solar projects in the shitter!! As it should be. Remember the days of Soetero where hundreds of billions of taxpayer money went up in smoke..........a disgrace...........a disaster.......except to the climate k00ks. Progressives never care about what things cost.........if the intentions are noble, the wasted money is money well spent = a mental disorder. Good to see President Trump kicking the mental cases square in the nutsack.

Nothing like the right wing always being, behind the curve:

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

Tesla/SolarCity/Silevo/Panasonic 1GW Buffalo fab’s known unknowns

Primarily, the vague first paragraph gave all that the companies were prepared to state about the manufacturing plans, which for reference is published below:

‘Tesla and Panasonic have finalized an agreement this week to begin the manufacturing of photovoltaic (PV) cells and modules at the Buffalo, NY factory. These high-efficiency PV cells and modules will be used to produce solar panels in the non-solar roof products. When production of the solar roof begins, Tesla will also incorporate Panasonic's cells into the many kinds of solar glass tile roofs that Tesla will be manufacturing. All of these solar products will work seamlessly with Tesla's energy storage products, Powerwall and Powerpack. Production of the first PV modules will begin in summer 2017, and will ramp to 1 Gigawatt of module production by 2019.’

Having read this paragraph countless times, the poor wording and structure seems to have been on purpose and the last part of the last sentence does not seem to relate to Panasonic’s involvement. Instead, this would seem to be a reference to the SolarCity/Silevo part of Buffalo fab.

There have been several push-outs to the timing of the original SolarCity/Silevo tool install phase(s) of the 1GW nameplate cell and module capacity since the facility was first announced back in June 2014.

Progress is happening at a faster pace. Only the right wing prefers to sink costs on fossil fuels.

 

[eagle1462010]

"A steep rise in panel prices "could be huge and disastrous for large-scale solar," said Tom Werner, chief executive of San Jose-based SunPower Corp (SPWR.O), a top U.S. solar company that is majority owned by France's Total (TOTF.PA). "Developers are alarmed and planning."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-solar-insight-idUSKBN1AA0BI


So damn happy to see funding for solar projects in the shitter!! As it should be. Remember the days of Soetero where hundreds of billions of taxpayer money went up in smoke..........a disgrace...........a disaster.......except to the climate k00ks. Progressives never care about what things cost.........if the intentions are noble, the wasted money is money well spent = a mental disorder. Good to see President Trump kicking the mental cases square in the nutsack.

Nothing like the right wing always being, behind the curve:

The Price of Solar Is Declining to Unprecedented Lows

Tesla/SolarCity/Silevo/Panasonic 1GW Buffalo fab’s known unknowns

Primarily, the vague first paragraph gave all that the companies were prepared to state about the manufacturing plans, which for reference is published below:

‘Tesla and Panasonic have finalized an agreement this week to begin the manufacturing of photovoltaic (PV) cells and modules at the Buffalo, NY factory. These high-efficiency PV cells and modules will be used to produce solar panels in the non-solar roof products. When production of the solar roof begins, Tesla will also incorporate Panasonic's cells into the many kinds of solar glass tile roofs that Tesla will be manufacturing. All of these solar products will work seamlessly with Tesla's energy storage products, Powerwall and Powerpack. Production of the first PV modules will begin in summer 2017, and will ramp to 1 Gigawatt of module production by 2019.’

Having read this paragraph countless times, the poor wording and structure seems to have been on purpose and the last part of the last sentence does not seem to relate to Panasonic’s involvement. Instead, this would seem to be a reference to the SolarCity/Silevo part of Buffalo fab.

There have been several push-outs to the timing of the original SolarCity/Silevo tool install phase(s) of the 1GW nameplate cell and module capacity since the facility was first announced back in June 2014.

Progress is happening at a faster pace. Only the right wing prefers to sink costs on fossil fuels.

I provided FACTS on the cost per type of energy source.

Disprove them....................you can't.............

When PV's equal the cost per KWH of fossil fuels you come back here and let me know................

Got news for you................if the article I read is true..........the cheapest PV panel made in foreign countries would be 75 cents a watt...........

Yet some companies are now saying they can produce them for a RECORD BREAKING 55 cents a watt............

If that is the case.............TRUMP is ACTUALLY HELPING YOU TO CREATE JOBS HERE IN THIS MARKET..........but you are too blind to see..................because EVERYBODY HATES TRUMP.

 

[Old Rocks]

Solar Growth and the ITC
The Solar Investment Tax Credit (ITC) has provided industry stability and growth since its initial passage in 2006. In the last decade, solar has experienced an average annual growth rate of 68%. To learn more about the ITC and its impact on the solar industry, visit our ITC Policy Page.



Solar as an Economic Engine
Nearly 260,000 Americans work in solar - more than double the number in 2012 - at more than 9,000 companies in every U.S. state.

Solar Industry Facts and Figures

This will continue to grow. Simple economics.

It will grow..........but at a snails pace. Decades before it even gets to 5%. IDK......to use a bowling analogy, for solar advocates, its like having a huge celebration for knocking one pin down.

A present growth rate of 68%, that will become very large, very quick. Do the compound interest equation on it.

 

[Old Rocks]

$0.55 per watt from SolarCity's record-breaking new solar panel - ExtremeTech

2.5 Cents Per Kilowatt Hour: America's Cheapest, Cleanest Fuel 'Holds Steady'

It's not news that energy efficiency is cost-effective. But new numbers from the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE) quantify just how cheap the resource has become relative to other power generation types.

The figure today: two and a half cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh).

That's one-third or less the price of any new source of electricity, making efficiency the cheapest option available – conventional or renewable – and a no-brainer investment for big utilities.

ACEEE notes, for instance, that in 2008 coal cost between 7 and 14 cents per kWh; natural gas cost between 7 and 10 cents per kWh; and wind between 4 and 9 cents per kWh. In terms of new nuclear, some estimates put its price at 15 cents per kWh, or more.

The main point is straightforward: Conventional energy costs are climbing, and coming carbon regulation will kick those costs up even more. Not the case with energy efficiency. The price of saving a kilowatt has stayed steady or dropped over the last half decade, reinforcing why states and utilities are adding aggressive efficiency programs, and forcing this question: Why aren't the feds doing the same?

"Saving Energy Cost-Effectively: A National Review of the Cost of Energy Saved through Utility-Sector Energy Efficiency Programs" updates ACEEE's frequently cited research from 2004. The original data determined that the average cost of delivering energy efficiency programs in the U.S. was 3 cents per kWh.

2.5 Cents Per Kilowatt Hour: America's Cheapest, Cleanest Fuel 'Holds Steady'

 

[Old Rocks]

Solar power Green energy pundits use the SUN IS FREE.......................Look at the PRICES DROPPING.........

But what they don't tell you is that PER KWH they are MASSIVELY MORE EXPENSIVE than FOSSIL FUELS.

The ONLY THING THAT MATTERS..............is KWH...........Kilo....Watt.......Hours..........in which case the cost of installing a system at your home over time makes it COST INEFFECTIVE................in REAL TERMS OF COST.

I don't have any grievance with solar power or wind.............geo thermal power..............I have an issue with the OVERALL COSTS to power your home......

I have a problem as they YELL LOOKY HERE............PRICES ARE FALLING.........which they are.....but not on any level to compete with other fuels. Without Subsidies and tax breaks they are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE.

God are you a stupid ass. The cost per energy produced by utility scale solar is under 3 cents per kw. The cost per watt of generating potential of the new Solar City panel is 55 cents. But you seem to be unable to wrap your head around that.