There's a case to be made that inexperience and ignorance lead us to war.

I believe the Iranian PEOPLE are great, kind people.
I know one Iranian person with whom I have had a few conversations about life there before she left. The government is a repressive theocracy favored by enough Iranians to keep it in power. That isn't an indictment of all Iranians. But many are making life miserable for all.
 
Again, you dipshits are busy trying to turn a massive success into a failure.
That's the definition of gaslighting.

President Trump on Saturday rejected the United Kingdom’s reported offer to send two aircraft carriers to the Middle East amid the U.S. conflict with Iran, warning that the U.S. “will remember” — seemingly alluding to the U.K.’s hesitance to get involved in the war.

“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

“That’s OK, Prime Minister [Keir] Starmer, we don’t need them any longer — But we will remember,” he added. “We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”


Now Dotard is begging for help.
 
That's the definition of gaslighting.

President Trump on Saturday rejected the United Kingdom’s reported offer to send two aircraft carriers to the Middle East amid the U.S. conflict with Iran, warning that the U.S. “will remember” — seemingly alluding to the U.K.’s hesitance to get involved in the war.

“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

“That’s OK, Prime Minister [Keir] Starmer, we don’t need them any longer — But we will remember,” he added. “We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”


Now Dotard is begging for help.
Yep....that's what you're doing.
 

Just Get Out! Now!​

As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency, and NSA were simply bypassed because, as White House Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said, President Trump “had a feeling” Iran would attack.

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.

Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.


Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
Confusion on whether Iran truly needed only “two weeks to four weeks” to make a nuclear weapon, as President Donald Trump suggested on Monday, hangs over the ongoing U.S. and Israeli war on the Persian Gulf nation. Nuclear experts call this claim unlikely—but the confusion may stem from some basics of atomic chemistry.

“There was no evidence that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon,” says Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies. His comment echoed those of other experts after the war’s start, as well as statements from International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Rafael Grossi at that time and in 2025 and last year’s “threat assessment” report by U.S. intelligence agencies.

According to an IAEA estimate, as of June 2025, Iran possessed 441 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium, where the percentage refers to the share of the isotope uranium 235 (U 235) found in the material. That would be enough for 10 nuclear weapons if the material could be enriched further to full 90 percent weapons-grade concentrations, according to the IAEA. That further enrichment would take a matter of weeks in a fully functioning Iranian nuclear complex, perhaps explaining the time line within Trump’s declaration.

That step alone doesn’t equal a bomb, however. And Iran’s main enrichment capabilities were “completely and totally obliterated,” according to Trump himself in June, after the U.S. bombed three underground Iranian facilities. The administration’s special envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff nonetheless claimed on March 3, after the start of the current war, that Iran had the capability to make 11 nuclear bombs. Trump administration officials reportedly failed to include nuclear technical experts in their negotiation teams with Iran prior to the war, adding to the uncertainty. If Iran really had rebuilt these facilities, that might have led—over months and not weeks—to the nation resuming its uranium enrichment, Lewis says. “But this is all ‘if,’ ‘maybe’ and ‘later,’” he adds.


Never send a boy to do a man's job. In the sense of engaging in complex negotiations about Iran's uranium enrichment program, Steve and Jared were infants.

Nuclear experts undercut White House claims about Iran reactor at heart of case for war​

The Trump administration sent negotiators without nuclear expertise to lead talks on Iran’s enrichment program. Now, its public case for war centers on a facility that experts say cannot do what officials claim.

If Steve Witkoff is one of Don's good golfing buddies and Jared is a swell husband to Ivanka that's all fine and dandy. But friendship and familial relations aren't the necessary qualifications needed to negotiate on important, technical matters with war in the balance. The question I would want answered if I were the parents of one of the dead US soldiers is why were Witkoff and Kushner even in the room while negotiations were being held? Negotiations that nonetheless produced a positive result.

Iran agreed to ‘zero stockpiling’ of nuclear material in US talks: Omani foreign minister

Oman’s foreign minister said Friday that Iran is offering to give up stockpiling enriched uranium as part of a deal with the U.S. related to its nuclear program.

Foreign Minister Badr al-Busaidi is serving as the mediator between U.S. and Iranian officials in Geneva.

“Now we are talking about zero stockpiling and that is very, very important because if you cannot stockpile material that is enriched, then there is no way you can actually create a bomb,” al-Busaidi told Margaret Brennan of CBS’s “Face the Nation.”


But that offer wasn't good enough for Bebe. I would argue he preferred war to a negotiated agreement on the enrichment program. So he convinced trump to come along for the ride.
What led us into WWII is the fact that congress sat on their hands and did nothing to prevent it.

The EU wants to sit on their hands till a problem bites them in the ass.

Trump is a pain in the ass to them because he's always busy doing things instead of putting it off for someone else to do.
 
The Zionists have been claiming the Iranians were "weeks from getting the bomb" for 30 years now.
TRANSLATION: "I'm not saying it wasn't the jews, just a safer way to say it and then deny it"
(By comparison, it was only six years between Einstein sending a letter proposing a Nuclear Bomb to FDR and having one ready to drop on Japan)
of course that's the case genius, how long did it take for man to learn to fly? and now how long does it take to get a pilots license? the plane at kitty hawk took longer to build than a fleet of SST's did...the prototypes always take much longer, once established the production/reproduction of just about everything happens at breakneck speed.
This was never about a bomb. This was always about Iran spreading its politics across the region.
and now it is not.
 
Yep....that's what you're doing.
Why were Kushner and Witkoff the lead negotiators when they have no expertise in uranium enrichment?

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.
 
The Trump administration has cited Iran’s Tehran Research Reactor as a central justification for its military strikes, but has provided no evidence that the facility — built by the United States and used for civilian research for nearly six decades — was being used to develop nuclear weapons. Multiple nuclear scientists and nonproliferation experts told MS NOW that the reactor does not have the capacity to serve as an easy conduit to a bomb as asserted by the administration.

The gap between the administration’s numerous claims about Iran and the available evidence has become a focal point of criticism as questions mount over the decision to launch strikes rather than continue negotiations.

Just 36 hours before the United States opened its military assault, Iran’s nuclear negotiators, along with Oman’s foreign minister as mediator, presented the U.S. with a seven-page proposal for a potential nuclear deal, according to U.S. negotiator Steve Witkoff. But the American negotiators, Witkoff and Jared Kushner — who, according to a senior Middle East diplomat with knowledge of the talks, chose not to include nuclear technical experts in the negotiations — balked at Iran’s request to continue using 20%-enriched uranium at the reactor, a facility for civilian nuclear development that the U.S. first built and provided to Iran in 1967.


If you want a bunch of high rise buildings built in Gaza after Israel reduced it to ruble, Jared's your man. But he's got no place at the table of negotiations on matters far, far over his head.
Crazy violent people cant be allowed to have nuclear bombs
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As per usual, Benedict Donald blurted out that he made the decision based on his own opinion that Iran was days away from developing a nuclear weapon and that they were going to attack us. The only input he seems to have used was from that "Bibi 'Wile Coyote' Yahoo" and his intricate and detailed poster.

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Why were Kushner and Witkoff the lead negotiators when they have no expertise in uranium enrichment?

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.
Probably because they're experts at diplomacy.
 
As per usual, Benedict Donald blurted out that he made the decision based on his own opinion that Iran was days away from developing a nuclear weapon
Based on false information.
 
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Putting aside that ludicrous assertion they have no expertise in the matter they were negotiating.
However they had access to experts during negotiations.

I wouldn't ask a scientist to negotiate with diplomats.

Being an expert on nukes doesn't mean you have the patience to deal with arrogant/obnoxious Iranian officials.
 

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