Not surprisingly, Obama nailed it.

[beagle9]

You are simply mindlessly ranting with no clue as to the facts behind the issue.

Well tell us your so called facts, and back them up with sources we can rely on.

 

[pknopp]

Well tell us your so called facts, and back them up with sources we can rely on.

I get $35 an hour to teach history.

 

[beagle9]

It was a done deal. It was their money.

Yes maybe it was the Iranian citizen's money who lived under the Shah of Iran, but that was not the case half wit. The Iranians have been living under a terrorist regime for 49 year's, and until that regime was no more, then the money should have stayed put.

Obama being seen in Muslim dress, and kissing Louis Farakhan's ace should have been a huge red flag to all Americans in this country, and now we have this Mandami feller occupying the mayor's office of NYC. Then we have another Muslim in this Ilhan Ohmar in congress who is under investigation as we speak, along with the squad, the Somalian fraud, and who knows what the hell else is lurking in the shadows........Make it make sence half wit, make it make sense. You can't.

 

[beagle9]

I get $35 an hour to teach history.

Poor kids... Wow !!

 

[markef]

It was a done deal. It was their money.

Who said the Shah's money was theirs, the terrorists themselves? The court? Congress? The Muslim Council? The Iranian people? Obama? The SCOTUS said the money belonged to victims of Iranian terrorists who should not be given the Shah's money.

 

[beagle9]

Who said the Shah's money was theirs, the terrorists themselves? The court? Congress? The Muslim Council? The Iranian people? Obama? The SCOTUS said the money belonged to victims of Iranian terrorists who should not be given the Shah's money.

Obama and Biden should see jail time over their deliberate actions that undermined America's power in hopes to change America or keep it stirred up for racist racial purposes.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Nostra]

I get $35 an hour to teach history.

You should refund $34.95.

 

[Nostra]

Who said the Shah's money was theirs, the terrorists themselves? The court? Congress? The Muslim Council? The Iranian people? Obama? The SCOTUS said the money belonged to victims of Iranian terrorists who should not be given the Shah's money.

Dimwingers ignore SC decisions they don’t like.

 

[Dante]

In January 2016, the Obama administration arranged for the delivery of $400 million in cash to Iran, stacked on wooden pallets and flown on an unmarked plane.

Yeah, that sounds legit…

Did Donald Trump Promise Iran $20 Billion? If So—Is that Treason?

On Earth One, no—it’s Iran’s money, after all. But on MAGA Earth, if Biden or Obama had done it …

newrepublic.com

quotes:

Last Friday morning, Axios published a scoop about the Trump administration’s negotiations with Iran. The administration, according to four sources, wants Iran to give up its stockpile of enriched uranium, of which it possesses about 2.2 tons in various underground facilities. In return, the United States would release to Iran $20 billion in frozen funds.

What?! It’s a staggering sum of money. And if all the details were accurate, it would represent an even more staggering negotiating win for Iran because Axios also reported that the Trump team opened their bidding at $6 billion...

...

...FrontPage Magazine (David Horowitz’s outfit) argued: “In a sane political environment, Barack Obama would be tried for treason.”

Similar arguments, of course, issued from Donald Trump himself. He raised the issue of the $1.7 billion just recently, in fact. I guess that’s an improvement of sorts. He used to go around saying Obama gave Iran $150 billion in cash. That, as usual, was a blatant lie...

...

And now, here comes Trump, if Axios is correct, offering Iran about 12 times that amount. If $1.7 billion was treason, then what’s $20 billion?

 

[Nostra]

Did Donald Trump Promise Iran $20 Billion? If So—Is that Treason?

On Earth One, no—it’s Iran’s money, after all. But on MAGA Earth, if Biden or Obama had done it …

newrepublic.com

Last Friday morning, Axios published a scoop about the Trump administration’s negotiations with Iran. The administration, according to four sources, wants Iran to give up its stockpile of enriched uranium, of which it possesses about 2.2 tons in various underground facilities. In return, the United States would release to Iran $20 billion in frozen funds.

What?! It’s a staggering sum of money. And if all the details were accurate, it would represent an even more staggering negotiating win for Iran because Axios also reported that the Trump team opened their bidding at $6 billion...

But here’s what makes the idea of this—and Trump denied the report, whatever that’s worth—particularly galling. As part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA, negotiated between Iran, the United States, and five other nations under President Barack Obama, the United States agreed to release $1.7 billion in frozen Iranian funds. This was part of a cache of $100 billion or more that belongs to Iran but was frozen in international banks (most of them outside the United States) after the 1979 revolution and during subsequent impositions of sanctions. Fully $1.3 billion of the Obama-approved payment was interest.

...FrontPage Magazine (David Horowitz’s outfit) argued: “In a sane political environment, Barack Obama would be tried for treason.”

Similar arguments, of course, issued from Donald Trump himself. He raised the issue of the $1.7 billion just recently, in fact. I guess that’s an improvement of sorts. He used to go around saying Obama gave Iran $150 billion in cash. That, as usual, was a blatant lie...

The $1.7 billion Obama gave to Iran under the JCPOA shouldn’t have been controversial in the first place. Yes, the payments were made in cash, in a series of installments, which looked a little fishy to a lot of people. U.S. officials maintained at the time...it came with many strings attached to ensure that Iran couldn’t just hand over bags of cash to Hezbollah and Hamas. But none of this stopped conservatives from painting Obama as a ransom-payer and a traitor.

And now, here comes Trump, if Axios is correct, offering Iran about 12 times that amount. If $1.7 billion was treason, then what’s $20 billion?

Actually, Robert Malley, who was Obama’s point man on Iran and helped negotiate the JCPOA, says that just as it was wrong for the right to make a stink over Obama’s payment, it would be wrong for the left to do it here. “Trump’s hypocrisy aside, I wouldn’t make that much of it,” Malley told me over the weekend via email. “First, it is Iran’s money, acquired from the sale of their oil. It has been frozen (along with roughly another 80 billion) due to U.S. sanctions. If it’s unfrozen, it would almost certainly still be closely monitored by the U.S. to ensure it could only be used for humanitarian transactions (food, medicine, etc). So, it’s not really a major concession.”

We should take Malley’s word for it here and be intellectually and ethically consistent. At the same time, I admit I find it a little hard to brush aside Trump’s hypocrisy—and not just his; the right’s in general on this point—quite so easily...They’ll carry on, in the most fatuous and fawning way possible, about what a consummate dealmaker he is.

No sources. Axios...........................


Okeedokee......./

 

[Dante]

No sources. Axios...........................


Okeedokee......./

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/17/iran-us-deal-20-billion-frozen-funds-uranium

 

[Nostra]

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/17/iran-us-deal-20-billion-frozen-funds-uranium

Who said?

Give us some names, Simp.

 

[berg80]

Vance’s Trip to Peace Talks on Hold​

Vice President JD Vance’s trip to Pakistan for a second round of negotiations with Iran has been put on hold after Tehran failed to respond to American positions, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the situation said Tuesday. Iran, for its part, said it had not yet decided whether to resume talks with the United States.

With the two-week truce set to expire Wednesday in Iran, it was unclear what steps, if any, Iran or the United States would take next. Talks could resume at a moment’s notice though President Trump has suggested that he did not want to extend the truce without a longer-term agreement.

Trump Extends Cease-Fire With Iran

The pause in hostilities had been set to expire within hours. The president said Pakistan, which is trying to mediate an end to the war, requested he hold off any attacks.

www.nytimes.com

Things were headed in the right direction on Friday until the Stable Genius insisted the US maintain its blockade of Iranian ports.

 

[beagle9]

Vance’s Trip to Peace Talks on Hold​

Vice President JD Vance’s trip to Pakistan for a second round of negotiations with Iran has been put on hold after Tehran failed to respond to American positions, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the situation said Tuesday. Iran, for its part, said it had not yet decided whether to resume talks with the United States.

With the two-week truce set to expire Wednesday in Iran, it was unclear what steps, if any, Iran or the United States would take next. Talks could resume at a moment’s notice though President Trump has suggested that he did not want to extend the truce without a longer-term agreement.

Trump Extends Cease-Fire With Iran

The pause in hostilities had been set to expire within hours. The president said Pakistan, which is trying to mediate an end to the war, requested he hold off any attacks.

www.nytimes.com

Things were headed in the right direction on Friday until the Stable Genius insisted the US maintain its blockade of Iranian ports.

You rooting for Iran or suggesting that Iran is the smart one in this war simp ???

All you possible traitors of American resolve or American interest (IMO), need to be documented and accounted for in the record books.

 

[Nostra]

Who said?

Give us some names, Simp.

: crickets: from Dante.

 

[berg80]

You rooting for Iran or suggesting that Iran is the smart one in this war simp ???

All you possible traitors of American resolve or American interest (IMO), need to be documented and accounted for in the record books.

Should I expect a visit from some of trump's pardoned Jan. 6 mob at my door as punishment for posting the news? Pointing to Dotard's idiocy isn't rooting for Iran, it's pointing out Dotard's idiocy. Perhaps you're too simple minded to distinguish the difference.

 

[beagle9]

Should I expect a visit from some of trump's pardoned Jan. 6 mob at my door as punishment for posting the news? Pointing to Dotard's idiocy isn't rooting for Iran, it's pointing out Dotard's idiocy. Perhaps you're too simple minded to distinguish the difference.

Well it comes down to common sense about who is wrong and who is right between America and Iran. You attacking the president of the United State's during a time of war, and especially when you know what the stakes are in this war, is actually you siding with Iran as you are holding them in higher regard than our President.

 

[berg80]

Iran just seized two cargo ships and had gunboats fire on another ship a few days ago with their obliterated navy. The US had to go back and re-obliterate Iran's nuclear facilities after obliterating them last summer.

I get the feeling trump has been lying to us.

 

[berg80]

You attacking the president of the United State's during a time of war

Pointing out he's a fool isn't taking sides with Iran. Iran is a theocratic autocracy that has brutally crushed dissent and been a bad actor in the ME for decades. It would have been a good thing if regime changer had happened.

The thing is, Dotard was naive to think it would given the level of entrenchment the theocracy has in Iranian society. He under estimated the country due to pride and ignorance. Now the world is paying the financial price.