The West will have to make peace with Russia

[bendog]

The point you cannot accept is that Ukraine was at one time as corrupt as Putin, but Ukraine has demonstrated its commitment to joining the west in blood and .... lessening corruption. And the reason you can't dispute that is because it undisputable ... unless you're maga.

And it's not in the US's interests to see a Putin entitity that contains the baltics and even possibly poland.

 

[Rogue AI]

The point you cannot accept is that Ukraine was at one time as corrupt as Putin, but Ukraine has demonstrated its commitment to joining the west in blood and .... lessening corruption. And the reason you can't dispute that is because it undisputable ... unless you're maga.

And it's not in the US's interests to see a Putin entitity that contains the baltics and even possibly poland.

A slightly less corrupt shithole is still a corrupt shithole unworthy of our support. You clowns have learned nothing from history. Backing corrupt scum has never worked out for us. Yet you drape yourselves in blue and yellow rags to repeat the process. Pathetic.

 

[justoffal]

It didn't happen, Comrade. It was made up by Putin and plenty of MAGA dumb fucks parroted it like good little cucks, including in Congress.

So it turns out the easiest way is to not be a fucking moron in the service of a mass murderer.

Speaking of morons, where's your evidence of Congress critters laundering Ukraine aid money back to themselves?

GAO....NO PROBLEM THEN....

 

[AntonToo]

A slightly less corrupt shithole is still a corrupt shithole unworthy of our support.

We've successfully landleased to Soviets, a country that was far more corrupt.

Ukraine has commited itself by blood to joining the EU and cleaning up corruption is a REQUIREMENT, not an option.

 

[Rogue AI]

We've successfully landleased to Soviets, a country that was far more corrupt.

Ukraine has commited itself by blood to joining the EU and cleaning up corruption is a REQUIREMENT, not an option.

Ukraine has only gone backwards since this conflict started. At this rate they might join the EU in 2224.

 

[AntonToo]

Ukraine has only gone backwards since this conflict started. At this rate they might join the EU in 2224.

Thats a lie.

Ukraine's corruption index improved in the last decade.

Ukraine

Find out more about corruption in Ukraine: Latest news, Corruption Perceptions Index score & local chapter’s contact information.

www.transparency.org

 

[Rogue AI]

Thats a lie.

Ukraine's corruption index improved in the last decade.

Ukraine

Find out more about corruption in Ukraine: Latest news, Corruption Perceptions Index score & local chapter’s contact information.

www.transparency.org

Which is why I specified since the conflict began. Try harder.

 

[22lcidw]

The Russian economy cannot sustain an indefinite occupation of captured territory.
The idea that “they will treat us as liberators” is not going to happen and Russia will occupy hostile territory.
An unending stalemate will work against Russia

And this is dangerous as Russia keeps being poked from the arrogant West. There are people with relatives and friends there, I know. Ukraine does not affect us. There is something wrong. And so, the theories of dirty laundering money and other financial, economic things going on along with corrupted elites and politicians.

 

[AntonToo]

Which is why I specified since the conflict began. Try harder.

Ignoramus, conflict began in 2014 when Russians invaded Crimea and Eastern Urkaine.

 

[Rogue AI]

Ignoramus, conflict began in 2014 when Russians invaded Crimea and Eastern Urkaine.

Not really, stop lying. Russia took Crimea and Obama wet his pants. The billions and billions of completely unaccounted for dollars didn't arrive until 2022. The current levels of corruption dwarf all previous corruption.

 

[AntonToo]

Not really, stop lying. Russia took Crimea....

...dummy when you say "not really" you probably shouldn't follow it up with confirmation that I'm in fact correct.

Conflict began when Russians invaded Ukraine in 2014, YES, REALLY.

Siege of Sloviansk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The billions and billions of completely unaccounted for dollars didn't arrive until 2022. The current levels of corruption dwarf all previous corruption.

So whats this then?

Trump administration reinstates military aid for Ukraine​

 

[AntonToo]

The current levels of corruption dwarf all previous corruption.

Because some idiot with a screen name Rogue AI says so?

 

[22lcidw]

The point you cannot accept is that Ukraine was at one time as corrupt as Putin, but Ukraine has demonstrated its commitment to joining the west in blood and .... lessening corruption. And the reason you can't dispute that is because it undisputable ... unless you're maga.

And it's not in the US's interests to see a Putin entitity that contains the baltics and even possibly poland.

Progs the war mongers. The same people from the 1960's.....All we are saying, is give peace a chance!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If NATO holds no cards, why is Putin's 3-day war still stalemated 3-years later?

NATO should just admit Ukraine. Then that ends the war.

Have you asked Russia how they feel about that? They might surprise you!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How fast though? Right now production of tanks and munitions are incredibly slow.

Whose tank production is slow? The tanks we gave Ukraine were part of a massive built-in reserve. there are tanks sitting in the desert now that haven't been touched because we don't need them. The Army is just now outfitting the successor to the Abrams tank. They had one on Fox News this morning at Fort Liberty NC.

 

[kyzr]

Have you asked Russia how they feel about that? They might surprise you!

Russia was one of the signatories to the Budapest Memorandum. (Ukraine gave up nukes for "guaranteed security")
This pussy-footing around will end up starting WW3.
NATO needs to tell Russia to get the fuck out of Ukraine.

 

[Rogue AI]

Because some idiot with a screen name Rogue AI says so?

If you were actually informed you wouldn't need to ask. Stay ignorant, it suits you.

Ukraine Supreme Court head held in corruption probe

Prosecutors say they have exposed a scheme for judges to take bribes at the country's highest court.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine corruption scandal claims several top officials

Several senior Ukrainian government officials have lost their jobs as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy faces a burgeoning corruption scandal.

apnews.com

Ukraine corruption scandal ousts top officials amid Russian invasion

Several senior Ukrainian government officials have lost their jobs as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy faces a burgeoning corruption scandal. It's Ukraine's biggest shake-up since Russia invaded.

www.pbs.org

Tip of the iceberg.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

France has begun talking about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.

They will do that without support from NATO.

 

[AntonToo]

If you were actually informed you wouldn't need to ask. Stay ignorant, it suits you.

Ukraine Supreme Court head held in corruption probe

Prosecutors say they have exposed a scheme for judges to take bribes at the country's highest court.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine corruption scandal claims several top officials

Several senior Ukrainian government officials have lost their jobs as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy faces a burgeoning corruption scandal.

apnews.com

Ukraine corruption scandal ousts top officials amid Russian invasion

Several senior Ukrainian government officials have lost their jobs as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy faces a burgeoning corruption scandal. It's Ukraine's biggest shake-up since Russia invaded.

www.pbs.org

Tip of the iceberg.

Should I quote American corruption scandals or will you understand how stupid what you've posted on your own?

Some choice instances of corruption EXPOSED do not prove a country is more or less corrupt than before.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Russia was one of the signatories to the Budapest Memorandum. (Ukraine gave up nukes for "guaranteed security")
This pussy-footing around will end up starting WW3.
NATO needs to tell Russia to get the fuck out of Ukraine.

I am sure they have. Russia simply ignores anyone in the West.