Are the French leading the West into Nuclear War?

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Can the French tolerate being demoted to a second or third rate power. . . with a weak GDP and second rate life style, even perhaps, kicked out of the G8?

Will they risk going to global war first?

For context, some might want to view this thread first. . . and looking into the history of this conflict, which goes back before WWII. France, however, is working off of a national foreign policy, outside of NATO's interests.


VIPS MEMO: The French Road to Nuclear War​

France could be leading the American people down a path toward a nuclear conflict decidedly not in the interests of the American people – or of humanity itself, VIPS warns President Joe Biden.
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U.S. President Joe Biden preparing to disembark Marine One, July 2021. (White House, Adam Schultz)
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". . . This would be introducing combat troops of a NATO country into a theater of war, making them “lawful targets” under the Law of War.

Such units would apparently lack a NATO mandate. In Russia’s view, however, this may be a distinction without a difference. France appears to be betting – naively – that its membership in NATO would prevent Russia from attacking French troops. Rather, it is highly likely that Russia would attack any French/Baltic contingent in Ukraine and quickly destroy/degrade its combat viability.

In that case, French President Macron may calculate that, after Russian attacks on the troops of NATO members – NATO mandate or not – he could invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter and get the NATO alliance to intervene. Such intervention would likely take the form of aircraft operating from NATO nations – and perhaps include interdiction missions against tactical targets inside Russia.


On Precipice of Nuclear War?

Doctrinally, and by legal right, Russia’s response would be to launch retaliatory strikes also against targets in NATO countries. If NATO then attacks strategic targets inside Russia, at that point Russia’s nuclear doctrine takes over, and NATO decision-making centers would be hit with nuclear weapons.

We do not believe Russia will initiate a nuclear attack against the U.S., but rather would leave it up to the United States to decide if it wants to risk destruction by preparing to launch a nuclear strike on Russia. That said, Russian strategic forces have improved to the point that, in some areas – hypersonic missiles, for example – its capability surpasses that of the U.S. and NATO.

In other words, the Russian temptation to strike first may be a bit stronger than during past crises, and we are somewhat less confident that Russia would want to “go second”. Another disquieting factor is that the Russians are likely to believe that Macron’s folly has the tacit approval of some key U.S. and other Western officials, who seem desperate to find some way to alter the trajectory of the war in Ukraine – the more so, as elections draw near. . . . "

NATO Ally Could Command 60,000 Strong Force in Ukraine: General​


". . . Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

"If you want peace, prepare for war," the general wrote, quoting a well-known Latin adage. "The sources of crisis are multiplying and carry with them risks of spiraling or extending," the commander added, though he did not specifically refer to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

Russian officials have repeatedly criticized any hint of deeper NATO involvement in Ukraine. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Macron's "idea of potentially sending such a contingent," is "clearly perceived differently in different European capitals." He added: "We continue following this situation closely."

Foreign Intelligence Service head Sergey Naryshkin, meanwhile, claimed—without providing evidence—to have intelligence of a French plan to send 2,000 troops to Ukraine. . . "


But why? Why is France taking the lead on this. . . what is really behind all this, and what is the history on this?

Why France is Actually Preparing for War With Russia​



From the Russian media and the Russian POV on this issue. Things are looking worrisome, TBH.

FRANCE ENTERING WAR AGAINST RUSSIA​



France Already Conducts Combat Training of Its Battalion Group Assigned for Ukraine​

14 March 2024
 
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Why would France suddenly have a bone for Ukraine Mr B?

~S~
I was very curious about that as well. I didn't understand why French political elites, were more annoyed about Libya, and more annoyed by Russia, than both the English, Germans, and the US till I watched the Life Lore video.

It has to do with this, in the end.

There is a famous viral video I recommend, called, "All Wars are Bankers Wars." Natural Citizen has seen it. I think it is based on a famous economist's essay. That is what this is all about.


I watch all that channel's work. It does a lot of really good, unbiased political/economic research.

. . well, mostly unbiased. It is clear, he still favors the US and the west, but not so much that it doesn't cloud telling the facts as they are.

I recommend all his public free videos.

If I was a real wonk, I would subscribe to that Nebula service. . .but nah. :lol:
 
Some in France want 'the old good days' - when it was one of the leading power of Europe - to return. Nothing new. And nothing bad, maybe.
 
Why would France suddenly have a bone for Ukraine Mr B?

~S~
Because the Midget Macron along with Blair and Trudeau were the leading lights within the WEF and seen as its poster boys , and therefore are/were dedicated Deep State top field middle management .

Love the rumour that Macaroni's wife who is 23 years older than him is a biological male . Not the clear evidence that holds with fat arse Michael and Obummer but funny all the same . imho .
 
As one of my Russian friends wrote:
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The "Unlimited war" of Macron, between France and Russia can have only one possible outcome for France - "virtually total annihilation". But for Russia there is the difference:
1) in the case of the first Russian counter-force attack - French nuclear forces wont be able to destroy Moscow, Saint-Petersburg, or other well-defended city. May be, France will be able to destroy Smolensk.
2) in the case of the well-prepared and organised, out of blue, French counter-value attack - Moscow will be burnt down (as it was in 1812).

So, the Russians have a strong temptation to preempt the threat, and destroy French nuclear forces as early, as possible.
 
France can't get past the fact that they were once a great empire and are now about as relevant as Sri Lanka.
Wanna know why the trees are left so close to the roads in eastern France?
So the Wehrmacht can march to Paris in the shade.
Stupid ignorant brainwashed functional moron ignoramus seditionist Russian tool conspiracy nut job. English speaking conservatives, easily the most obnoxious disasters ever...think you're genius heroes because because you have the channel and oceans as giant advantages. Always Ready to fight after a couple of years.

The French know what rw dictatorships are like. Meanwhile half the GOP idiots want Trump and martial law.... because total bs propaganda....
 
As one of my Russian friends wrote:
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The "Unlimited war" of Macron, between France and Russia can have only one possible outcome for France - "virtually total annihilation". But for Russia there is the difference:
1) in the case of the first Russian counter-force attack - French nuclear forces wont be able to destroy Moscow, Saint-Petersburg, or other well-defended city. May be, France will be able to destroy Smolensk.
2) in the case of the well-prepared and organised, out of blue, French counter-value attack - Moscow will be burnt down (as it was in 1812).

So, the Russians have a strong temptation to preempt the threat, and destroy French nuclear forces as early, as possible.
Unlimited war my ass, dupe.
 
Can the French tolerate being demoted to a second or third rate power. . . with a weak GDP and second rate life style, even perhaps, kicked out of the G8?

Will they risk going to global war first?

For context, some might want to view this thread first. . . and looking into the history of this conflict, which goes back before WWII. France, however, is working off of a national foreign policy, outside of NATO's interests.


VIPS MEMO: The French Road to Nuclear War​

France could be leading the American people down a path toward a nuclear conflict decidedly not in the interests of the American people – or of humanity itself, VIPS warns President Joe Biden.
8kitkf.jpg

U.S. President Joe Biden preparing to disembark Marine One, July 2021. (White House, Adam Schultz)
View attachment 922475

". . . This would be introducing combat troops of a NATO country into a theater of war, making them “lawful targets” under the Law of War.

Such units would apparently lack a NATO mandate. In Russia’s view, however, this may be a distinction without a difference. France appears to be betting – naively – that its membership in NATO would prevent Russia from attacking French troops. Rather, it is highly likely that Russia would attack any French/Baltic contingent in Ukraine and quickly destroy/degrade its combat viability.

In that case, French President Macron may calculate that, after Russian attacks on the troops of NATO members – NATO mandate or not – he could invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter and get the NATO alliance to intervene. Such intervention would likely take the form of aircraft operating from NATO nations – and perhaps include interdiction missions against tactical targets inside Russia.


On Precipice of Nuclear War?

Doctrinally, and by legal right, Russia’s response would be to launch retaliatory strikes also against targets in NATO countries. If NATO then attacks strategic targets inside Russia, at that point Russia’s nuclear doctrine takes over, and NATO decision-making centers would be hit with nuclear weapons.

We do not believe Russia will initiate a nuclear attack against the U.S., but rather would leave it up to the United States to decide if it wants to risk destruction by preparing to launch a nuclear strike on Russia. That said, Russian strategic forces have improved to the point that, in some areas – hypersonic missiles, for example – its capability surpasses that of the U.S. and NATO.

In other words, the Russian temptation to strike first may be a bit stronger than during past crises, and we are somewhat less confident that Russia would want to “go second”. Another disquieting factor is that the Russians are likely to believe that Macron’s folly has the tacit approval of some key U.S. and other Western officials, who seem desperate to find some way to alter the trajectory of the war in Ukraine – the more so, as elections draw near. . . . "

NATO Ally Could Command 60,000 Strong Force in Ukraine: General​


". . . Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

"If you want peace, prepare for war," the general wrote, quoting a well-known Latin adage. "The sources of crisis are multiplying and carry with them risks of spiraling or extending," the commander added, though he did not specifically refer to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

Russian officials have repeatedly criticized any hint of deeper NATO involvement in Ukraine. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Macron's "idea of potentially sending such a contingent," is "clearly perceived differently in different European capitals." He added: "We continue following this situation closely."

Foreign Intelligence Service head Sergey Naryshkin, meanwhile, claimed—without providing evidence—to have intelligence of a French plan to send 2,000 troops to Ukraine. . . "


But why? Why is France taking the lead on this. . . what is really behind all this, and what is the history on this?

Why France is Actually Preparing for War With Russia​



From the Russian media and the Russian POV on this issue. Things are looking worrisome, TBH.

FRANCE ENTERING WAR AGAINST RUSSIA​



France Already Conducts Combat Training of Its Battalion Group Assigned for Ukraine​

14 March 2024


Macron, Biden, Putin, Zelensky, Satanjahu, Trump, all of 'leaders' of the former christian countries are secret satanists and freemasons and lead the world into perdition.Together they do anything possible to fool dumbed down 'voters' and let them to believe in their charade.Anything is staged and a fake, beginning from the good for nothing corrupted scum 'politicians' and whores pressitutes and ending by bought-and-paid for 'cops' and 'officials'
 
Can the French tolerate being demoted to a second or third rate power. . . with a weak GDP and second rate life style, even perhaps, kicked out of the G8?

Will they risk going to global war first?

For context, some might want to view this thread first. . . and looking into the history of this conflict, which goes back before WWII. France, however, is working off of a national foreign policy, outside of NATO's interests.


VIPS MEMO: The French Road to Nuclear War​

France could be leading the American people down a path toward a nuclear conflict decidedly not in the interests of the American people – or of humanity itself, VIPS warns President Joe Biden.
8kitkf.jpg

U.S. President Joe Biden preparing to disembark Marine One, July 2021. (White House, Adam Schultz)
View attachment 922475

". . . This would be introducing combat troops of a NATO country into a theater of war, making them “lawful targets” under the Law of War.

Such units would apparently lack a NATO mandate. In Russia’s view, however, this may be a distinction without a difference. France appears to be betting – naively – that its membership in NATO would prevent Russia from attacking French troops. Rather, it is highly likely that Russia would attack any French/Baltic contingent in Ukraine and quickly destroy/degrade its combat viability.

In that case, French President Macron may calculate that, after Russian attacks on the troops of NATO members – NATO mandate or not – he could invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter and get the NATO alliance to intervene. Such intervention would likely take the form of aircraft operating from NATO nations – and perhaps include interdiction missions against tactical targets inside Russia.


On Precipice of Nuclear War?

Doctrinally, and by legal right, Russia’s response would be to launch retaliatory strikes also against targets in NATO countries. If NATO then attacks strategic targets inside Russia, at that point Russia’s nuclear doctrine takes over, and NATO decision-making centers would be hit with nuclear weapons.

We do not believe Russia will initiate a nuclear attack against the U.S., but rather would leave it up to the United States to decide if it wants to risk destruction by preparing to launch a nuclear strike on Russia. That said, Russian strategic forces have improved to the point that, in some areas – hypersonic missiles, for example – its capability surpasses that of the U.S. and NATO.

In other words, the Russian temptation to strike first may be a bit stronger than during past crises, and we are somewhat less confident that Russia would want to “go second”. Another disquieting factor is that the Russians are likely to believe that Macron’s folly has the tacit approval of some key U.S. and other Western officials, who seem desperate to find some way to alter the trajectory of the war in Ukraine – the more so, as elections draw near. . . . "

NATO Ally Could Command 60,000 Strong Force in Ukraine: General​


". . . Schill said France could engage a division of 20,000 troops within 30 days to operate as part of an allied coalition. Paris, he added, would be able to command a force of around 60,000 soldiers made up of French and other allied troops. The French army comprises some 121,000 soldiers, with 24,000 reservists.

"If you want peace, prepare for war," the general wrote, quoting a well-known Latin adage. "The sources of crisis are multiplying and carry with them risks of spiraling or extending," the commander added, though he did not specifically refer to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

Russian officials have repeatedly criticized any hint of deeper NATO involvement in Ukraine. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Macron's "idea of potentially sending such a contingent," is "clearly perceived differently in different European capitals." He added: "We continue following this situation closely."

Foreign Intelligence Service head Sergey Naryshkin, meanwhile, claimed—without providing evidence—to have intelligence of a French plan to send 2,000 troops to Ukraine. . . "


But why? Why is France taking the lead on this. . . what is really behind all this, and what is the history on this?

Why France is Actually Preparing for War With Russia​



From the Russian media and the Russian POV on this issue. Things are looking worrisome, TBH.

FRANCE ENTERING WAR AGAINST RUSSIA​



France Already Conducts Combat Training of Its Battalion Group Assigned for Ukraine​

14 March 2024

This may turn out to be quite prophetic

We need Regime Change throughout the West

Clearly the French government no longer gives a fuck about the people of France; time for change
 
This may turn out to be quite prophetic

We need Regime Change throughout the West

Clearly the French government no longer gives a fuck about the people of France; time for change

You can change nothing now:

1. There are too many remaining whites, most of them are either idiots or almost idiots
2. Churches and Christianity are dead
3. NWO lying satanic whore presstitutes have more as 98% share of all medias
4. All political systems make is impossible to citizens to elect free and independent politicians.
5. Satanic freemasons instigate wars to reduce the still remaining tiny amount of whites
6. Deindustrialization in white countries
7. Almost no real representation of patriotic whites in any parliament
9. Replacement of whites by demography
10 Increasing dying after SCAMdemic CONvid-1984 quackcine

And a lot of another reasons more


In the best case for all former white christian countries Islam will take them over and establish fundamentalist poor caliphates
Another alternative nuclear WWIII
 
i don't think the French are leading the west into nuclear war.
yes, they're trying to hold on to their foreign positions, but not at the expense of placing the entire western world in danger of any form of WW3.
they're too smart for that.
 
This may turn out to be quite prophetic

We need Regime Change throughout the West

Clearly the French government no longer gives a fuck about the people of France; time for change
Less authoritarian leadership in Russia, China and Iran wouldn't hurt the situation either. Those folks are on board with the plans of the WEF as well.

I think a lot of folks on this site tend to forget that.

That COVID thing, was a joint effort between the NIH and the CCP.
 
Unlimited war my ass, dupe.
It were Macron's words, weren't?
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French President Emmanuel Macron said that ‘there are no limits and no red lines’ for far Paris is willing to go in support of Ukraine’s cause, La Libre reported on March 7.
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And the term "no limits and no red lines" definitely includes "all-out nuclear attack".
 

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