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So " JOY " is a sin then.
It's not the joy that makes it a sin, it's the confusion, consternation, and ill-harmony that most sins create that make them sins.
Adultery, for example, while extremely fun, can lead to the ruin of marriages and families and is probably something to be avoided.
Pre-marital sex, could also be considered to be harmful to society if it leads to children that will not be adequately supported, emotionally as well as financially.
But, sexual acts between consenting adults, that don't cause harm to society or families shouldn't be considered sins.
For example, dancing between unmarried couples (and even married couples) is considered immodest and a sin to Orthodox Jews. Any physical contact between unmarried men and women is considered sinful and immodest. Even down to dancing between couples at a wedding.
"An engaged man goes to see his Rabbi about his upcoming wedding reception. He said, "Rabbi. I want to dance with my new bride at the wedding. The Rabbi said, "NO. This is prohibited in Judaism as immodest".
The man quickly changed the subject. He said, "What about sex after marriage? Is there anything we shouldn't do?" The Rabbi said, "No. Sex between a married couple should be enjoyed and celebrated. You should have as much sex as possible". The man said, "Are there any positions we shouldn't do?" The Rabbi again emphasized, "No, be experimental. Man on top, woman on top, sideways, in the bath, in the living room, in the kitchen, everything is allowed". The man asked, "What about standing up?.
The Rabbi's face became stern and he said, "NO! No sex standing up! It could lead to dancing!".