Zone1 The Seven years of Tribulation

the father son and hs. theres your trinity- why are you disagreeing with the bible?
Because Jesus and the bible writers teach truth--John 20:17, Rev 3:12----Coll 1:3, 1Cor 15:24-28,, Eph 1:3,17--1Peter 1:3--teach the Father is Jesus' God, like he is our God.
Paul clearly showed who God is at 1 Cor 8:6--he only named the Father as being God.
 
You have the error of a capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1 making your bible teach 2 different Gods.
greetings
the solution read Matthew 13: 13; 13: 15
Revelation 3: 22 explains if they cannot hear it is because don't understand the spirit of the seven churches.
James 1: 21 it is in the hearing the word wax ears
Romans 10; 17 hearing the word of God
them if not, then it talking to a robot
 
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Greetings
What does the bible say about THE GREAT TRIBULATION?
What will the end be like?
If I may, let's see what the word says?

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In DANIEL 12:1-2 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of the people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time; and at that time the people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in this book.

The Book of Life and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake. Some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
It will be the worst time in history.

MATTHEW 24:1-28 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved; but for the sake of the elect, those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christ’s and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, so shall also the coming of the son of man be.
For whosesoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

REVELATION 6:10-12 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

REVELATION 7:14-15 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, these are they which came out of the great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. This is Christ.
Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple; he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

MATTHEW 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

II PETER 3:10,12 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Mark 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto him, seeist thou these great building. The great building is the church., there shall not be left one stone upon another. We are the stone people! That shall not be thrown down.

Mark 13:22 For false Christ’s and false prophets shall rise and shall shew signs and wonders, signs are images of Jesus Christ or Idols.

Psalm 96:4-5 For the Lord is great and greatly to be praised: he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are Idols but the Lord made the heavens.

Isaiah 2: Their land is also full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands that which their own fingers have made.

Jeremiah 50:38 A drought is upon her waters: and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their Idols. In Zechariah 10:2 For Idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie and have told false dreams; their way as a flock, they were troubled because there was no shepherd.

Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication and from things strangled and from blood. Also in Romans 2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? Thou that I do is, dost thou commit sacrilege?

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold and silver and brass and stone and of wood: which neither can see nor hear nor walk. So as we see in these many verses, God warns us that all the churches become spiritual Babylon. We can find many more verses in the Old Testament and New Testament that Satan has dominion over all denominations, congregations, and churches.

I John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols, Amen.

REVELATION 6:12-17 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

REV.6:3 - 4. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and sword.

It will be the worst time in history.

The angel Michael will protect the Jews.

The faithful people will be delivered.

Some with robes made white in the blood of the Lamb.

The greatest tribulation is known in the history of the world.


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There is neither a Rapture (I defy you to find the word RAPTURE in the Bible) or a 7 year tribulation mentioned in the Bible in anything other than symbolism found in the Book of Revelation, which cannot be taken literally).....you are misquoting Matthew 24:9, as Jesus is informing His disciples about the fall of Jerusalem which fell in 70AD just as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 23:24 as He informs the Jewish leaders they will pay for their criminal actions against the prophets of God in that VERY GENERATION, not 2000 years in the future.

If these passages are referencing the 2000s ..........where is the Temple that is to fall leaving not one stone unturned...or did Jesus Lie?

Read Matthew 24 in context........from Matthew 24:1 thru Matthew 24:36, Jesus is addressing the fall of the Temple and Jerusalem......and concludes as much when "once again" He states, clearly with no ambiguity......."THIS GENERATION (the 1st century) SHALL NOT PASS UNTIL THESE THINGS ARE FULFILLED." What things? All the signs Jesus was telling that would lead up to the fall of Jerusalem.....and history records that during that century..;..1 A.D. there were numerous earthquakes, eclipses in the sky.....while the Jews fled in fear from Israel to be scattered around the globe from the 70s forward in the 1st century. The Temple was destroyed just as prophesied by Jesus and Daniel......it does not stand today, and it will never be rebuilt without the consent of both the Muslims and Jews.

Just what do you assume Jesus was referencing when He stated, "When YOU (his disciples in the 1st century) see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel, stand in the holy place....let him whoso readeth, let him understand....let them which are in Judaea flee into the mountains."" -- Matthew 24:15-16 Unless you were a disciple of Christ in the 1st century....Jesus was not addressing you personally.

Notice how Jesus declares in Matthew 24:35, He begins to speak about when the earth shall pass away....but His words shall not pass away........He then begins telling His disciples "But of THAT DAY (what day? the day the earth shall pass away, not to be compared with the text leading up to the fall of Jerusalem because JESUS knew this would take place in that very generation and warned those who would listen.....but OF THAT DAY AND HOUR, knoweth no man (Jesus was the Son of Man as well as the Son of God), no not the angels of heaven.........but MY FATHER ONLY." -- Matthew 24:35-51 goes on to discuss the judgment of God on that day....which will come without WARNING, when everyone is not looking for it. (Matthew 24:50)



But clearly your cult knows what The Son of God did not know.........you are privy to information that only the Father knows? :popcorn:
 
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There is neither a Rapture (I defy you to find the word RAPTURE in the Bible) or a 7 year tribulation mentioned in the Bible in anything other than symbolism found in the Book of Revelation, which cannot be taken literally).....you are misquoting Matthew 24:9, as Jesus is informing His disciples about the fall of Jerusalem which fell in 70AD just as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 23:24 as He informs the Jewish leaders they will pay for their criminal actions against the prophets of God in that VERY GENERATION, not 2000 years in the future.

If these passages are referencing the 2000s ..........where is the Temple that is to fall leaving not one stone unturned...or did Jesus Lie?

Read Matthew 24 in context........from Matthew 24:1 thru Matthew 24:36, Jesus is addressing the fall of the Temple and Jerusalem......and concludes as much when "once again" He states, clearly with no ambiguity......."THIS GENERATION (the 1st century) SHALL NOT PASS UNTIL THESE THINGS ARE FULFILLED." What things? All the signs Jesus was telling that would lead up to the fall of Jerusalem.....and history records that during that century..;..1 A.D. there were numerous earthquakes, eclipses in the sky.....while the Jews fled in fear from Israel to be scattered around the globe from the 70s forward in the 1st century. The Temple was destroyed just as prophesied by Jesus and Daniel......it does not stand today, and it will never be rebuilt without the consent of both the Muslims and Jews.

Just what do you assume Jesus was referencing when He stated, "When YOU (his disciples in the 1st century) see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel, stand in the holy place....let him whoso readeth, let him understand....let them which are in Judaea flee into the mountains."" -- Matthew 24:15-16 Unless you were a disciple of Christ in the 1st century....Jesus was not addressing you personally.

Notice how Jesus declares in Matthew 24:35, He begins to speak about when the earth shall pass away....but His words shall not pass away........He then begins telling His disciples "But of THAT DAY (what day? the day the earth shall pass away, not to be compared with the text leading up to the fall of Jerusalem because JESUS knew this would take place in that very generation and warned those who would listen.....but OF THAT DAY AND HOUR, knoweth no man (Jesus was the Son of Man as well as the Son of God), no not the angels of heaven.........but MY FATHER ONLY." -- Matthew 24:35-51 goes on to discuss the judgment of God on that day....which will come without WARNING, when everyone is not looking for it. (Matthew 24:50)



But clearly your cult knows what The Son of God did not know.........you are privy to information that only the Father knows? :popcorn:

Greetings
Doesn’t anyone believe in the rapture at all? :bigbed:
Christ foretells the destruction of the temple.

we read Matt 24:1-3 (KJV) And Jesus went out and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye, not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

The Book of Revelation was written in 95 A.D. 25 years after 70 A.D.

Rev 11:1-2 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Matt 24:30-31 (NKJV) Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt 24: 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matt 13:41-42 (NKJV) The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,
Matt 13: 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

1 Thess 4:16-17 (NKJV) For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thess 4:1 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.


The word Preterits!
Pre-tribulation “catching away” is to happen before the 7 years.

Min-tribulation “catching away” in the middle of the 7 years.

Post-tribulation Lord will return at the end of the 7 years.

Rapture fighters

Matt 24: 31 And He will send His Messages with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather His chosen one, from the four winds, of heaven. His elect from one end of heaven to the other,

Missing Links to Understanding the so call Rapture:
Feasts of Israel-Colossians 2: 16 - 17
“Shadow of thongs to Come.”

2 Kings 2:1-4 (NKJV) And it came to pass when the Lord was about to take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.
2 Kings 2: 2 Then Elijah said to Elisha, "Stay here, please, for the Lord has sent me on to Bethel." But Elisha said, "As the Lord lives, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you!" So they went down to Bethel.
2 Kings 2: 3 Now the sons of the prophets who were at Bethel came out to Elisha, and said to him, "Do you know that the Lord will take away your master from over you today?" And he said, "Yes, I know; keep silent!"
2 Kings 2: 4 Then Elijah said to him, "Elisha, stay here, please, for the Lord has sent me on to Jericho." But he said, "As the Lord lives, and as your soul lives, I will not leave you!" So they came to Jericho.

Psalms 22:27 (NKJV) All the ends of the world Shall remember and turn to the Lord, And all the families of the nations Shall worship before You.
Read Genesis 2: 8-14; Revelation 7: 1; Ezekiel 7: 2; Job 37: 2-3; Isaiah 11: 12; Ezekiel 7: 2.


the word
:scared1:is to be caught up together “catching away” read the fine print
https://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-of-the-church.html

 
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the word :scared1:is to be caught up together “catching away” read the fine print
https://www.gotquestions.org/rapture-of-the-church.html

 

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