Zone1 The unconditional covenant God made with the Jews (AKA Israelites/Hebrews including converts, excluding Arabs)

[ding]

because they weren't assessing that particular aspect. The moral undercurrent is different between a 5 hour old and a 23 month old.

"וַיַּ֤רְא אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶת־כׇּל־אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה וְהִנֵּה־ט֖וֹב מְאֹ֑ד וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם הַשִּׁשִּֽׁי׃"

what relevant conclusion do you draw from this?

That you are being argumentative.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Oh please, I obey most of them, although I admit I’m not Orthodox.

And you’re pretty disdainful of others’ religions if you call their followers Zombies. Do you also call Christians Zombies?

When One carries out an Act, that has been directed by a Religious, or Political Leader(s), without Questioning that Act, even when it is Readily Apparent that the "Directed Act", is at least "Abnormal",...... Yes, I can easily call then "Zombies", or,..... Would "Sheeple" be better for You?

 

[IM2]

The Covenant absolutely is not "Conditional", & It is Eternal.

And that "Covenant" is for All of the "Believing Children of Yisrael", as well as the "Believing Gentiles" that were, & will be joined with Yisrael, ........not just for the Jews".

And all 13 tribes, were present when that "Covenant" was given

Yep. And the tribe that is currently in the man-made nation of Israel has violated that covenant.

 

[IM2]

That's not an answer!

Should I Assume, that You have very little KNOWLEDGE about these so called "613 Laws"?

And that in a "Zombie like Fashion",..... You just keep dutifully repeating the "Programing"?

You assume correctly. Lisa says she is a Jew, but does not follow the laws.

 

[Meriweather]

You assume correctly. Lisa says she is a Jew, but does not follow the laws.

Perhaps let Lisa speak for herself.

 

[rosends]

That you are being argumentative.

And that is very telling.

 

[Meriweather]

And that is very telling.

Perhaps changing the subject, but according to (if I recall correctly) the Midrash, what happened when Adam and Eve came upon Abel's body. What is your take on that?

 

[ding]

And that is very telling.

Actually it's not. I've said all I needed to say on this subject. I'm not going to argue with you about it. I've posted the scientific basis on it. Take it or leave it. I don't care if you believe we aren't born with an innate sense of right and wrong.

 

[Lisa558]

Perhaps let Lisa speak for herself.

IM2 is a nasty antisemite. He has called Jews “evil” and “satanic” and has personally called me a “Jew whore.” Take whatever he has to say with that knowledge.

And of course I’m Jewish. He just gets off telling a Jewish woman she isn’t.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

TruthSeeker112125 you reacted with a "disagree" on my post #636. Would you be so kind as to tell me with what you disagree?

Sure Rose.

The "Faith/Belief System" given at Mt. Sinai, was not just for the Tribe of "Yudah/Judah" only.

It was given to All 13 tribes, of The Children of Yisrael. :

Num 1:1 Yahweh spoke to Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the Tent of Meeting, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they had come out of the land of Egypt, saying,
Num 1:2 “Take a census of all the congregation of the children of Israel, by their families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of the names, every male, one by one;
Num 1:3 from twenty years old and upward, all who are able to go out to war in Israel. You and Aaron shall count them by their divisions.
Num 1:4 With you there shall be a man of every tribe; everyone head of his fathers’ house.
Num 1:5 These are the names of the men who shall stand with you: Of Reuben: Elizur the son of Shedeur.
Num 1:6 Of Simeon: Shelumiel the son of Zurishaddai.
Num 1:7 Of Judah: Nahshon the son of Amminadab.
Num 1:8 Of Issachar: Nethanel the son of Zuar.
Num 1:9 Of Zebulun: Eliab the son of Helon.
Num 1:10 Of the children of Joseph: Of Ephraim: Elishama the son of Ammihud. Of Manasseh: Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur.
Num 1:11 Of Benjamin: Abidan the son of Gideoni.
Num 1:12 Of Dan: Ahiezer the son of Ammishaddai.
Num 1:13 Of Asher: Pagiel the son of Ochran.
Num 1:14 Of Gad: Eliasaph the son of Deuel.
Num 1:15 Of Naphtali: Ahira the son of Enan.”
Num 1:16 These are those who were called of the congregation, the princes of the tribes of their fathers; they were the heads of the thousands of Israel.
Num 1:17 Moses and Aaron took these men who are mentioned by name.

Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not counted among them.
Num 1:48 For Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,
Num 1:49 “Only the tribe of Levi you shall not count, neither shall you take a census of them among the children of Israel;
The "Way" of The Scriptures, is absolutely not "Jewish", & for that matter it Ain't Catholic, "Christian", nor "Muslim" either.
It's Yisraeli.
And,.... YAHWEH Clearly stated to The Children of Yisrael:
Deu 28:1 It shall happen, if you shall listen diligently to Yahweh your God’s voice, to observe to do all his commandments which I command you today, that Yahweh your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
Deu 28:2 All these blessings will come upon you, and overtake you, if you listen to Yahweh your God’s voice.
Deu 28:3 You shall be blessed in the city, and you shall be blessed in the field.
Deu 28:4 You shall be blessed in the fruit of your body, the fruit of your ground, the fruit of your animals, the increase of your livestock, and the young of your flock.
Deu 28:5 Your basket and your kneading trough shall be blessed.
Deu 28:6 You shall be blessed when you come in, and you shall be blessed when you go out.
Deu 28:7 Yahweh will cause your enemies who rise up against you to be struck before you. They will come out against you one way, and will flee before you seven ways.
Deu 28:8 Yahweh will command the blessing on you in your barns, and in all that you put your hand to. He will bless you in the land which Yahweh your God gives you.
Deu 28:9 Yahweh will establish you for a holy people to himself, as he has sworn to you, if you shall keep the commandments of Yahweh your God, and walk in his ways.
Deu 28:10 All the peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by Yahweh’s name, and they will be afraid of you.
Deu 28:11 Yahweh will grant you abundant prosperity, in the fruit of your body, in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground, in the land which Yahweh swore to your fathers to give you.
Deu 28:12 Yahweh will open to you his good treasure in the sky, to give the rain of your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You will lend to many nations, and you will not borrow.
Deu 28:13 Yahweh will make you the head, and not the tail. You will be above only, and you will not be beneath; if you listen to the commandments of Yahweh your God, which I command you today, to observe and to do,
Deu 28:14 and shall not turn away from any of the words which I command you today, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.

 

[Meriweather]

And of course I’m Jewish. He just gets off telling a Jewish woman she isn’t.

Yes, I know as you have said who you are from the start! It is a giant pet-peeve of mine when someone else states who someone else "really" is.

 

[rosends]

Sure Rose.

The "Faith/Belief System" given at Mt. Sinai, was not just for the Tribe of "Yudah/Judah" only.

It was given to All 13 tribes, of The Children of Yisrael. :

Num 1:1 Yahweh spoke to Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the Tent of Meeting, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they had come out of the land of Egypt, saying,
Num 1:2 “Take a census of all the congregation of the children of Israel, by their families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of the names, every male, one by one;
Num 1:3 from twenty years old and upward, all who are able to go out to war in Israel. You and Aaron shall count them by their divisions.
Num 1:4 With you there shall be a man of every tribe; everyone head of his fathers’ house.
Num 1:5 These are the names of the men who shall stand with you: Of Reuben: Elizur the son of Shedeur.
Num 1:6 Of Simeon: Shelumiel the son of Zurishaddai.
Num 1:7 Of Judah: Nahshon the son of Amminadab.
Num 1:8 Of Issachar: Nethanel the son of Zuar.
Num 1:9 Of Zebulun: Eliab the son of Helon.
Num 1:10 Of the children of Joseph: Of Ephraim: Elishama the son of Ammihud. Of Manasseh: Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur.
Num 1:11 Of Benjamin: Abidan the son of Gideoni.
Num 1:12 Of Dan: Ahiezer the son of Ammishaddai.
Num 1:13 Of Asher: Pagiel the son of Ochran.
Num 1:14 Of Gad: Eliasaph the son of Deuel.
Num 1:15 Of Naphtali: Ahira the son of Enan.”
Num 1:16 These are those who were called of the congregation, the princes of the tribes of their fathers; they were the heads of the thousands of Israel.
Num 1:17 Moses and Aaron took these men who are mentioned by name.

Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not counted among them.
Num 1:48 For Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,
Num 1:49 “Only the tribe of Levi you shall not count, neither shall you take a census of them among the children of Israel;
The "Way" of The Scriptures, is absolutely not "Jewish", & for that matter it Ain't Catholic, "Christian", nor "Muslim" either.
It's Yisraeli.
And,.... YAHWEH Clearly stated to The Children of Yisrael:
Deu 28:1 It shall happen, if you shall listen diligently to Yahweh your God’s voice, to observe to do all his commandments which I command you today, that Yahweh your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
Deu 28:2 All these blessings will come upon you, and overtake you, if you listen to Yahweh your God’s voice.
Deu 28:3 You shall be blessed in the city, and you shall be blessed in the field.
Deu 28:4 You shall be blessed in the fruit of your body, the fruit of your ground, the fruit of your animals, the increase of your livestock, and the young of your flock.
Deu 28:5 Your basket and your kneading trough shall be blessed.
Deu 28:6 You shall be blessed when you come in, and you shall be blessed when you go out.
Deu 28:7 Yahweh will cause your enemies who rise up against you to be struck before you. They will come out against you one way, and will flee before you seven ways.
Deu 28:8 Yahweh will command the blessing on you in your barns, and in all that you put your hand to. He will bless you in the land which Yahweh your God gives you.
Deu 28:9 Yahweh will establish you for a holy people to himself, as he has sworn to you, if you shall keep the commandments of Yahweh your God, and walk in his ways.
Deu 28:10 All the peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by Yahweh’s name, and they will be afraid of you.
Deu 28:11 Yahweh will grant you abundant prosperity, in the fruit of your body, in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground, in the land which Yahweh swore to your fathers to give you.
Deu 28:12 Yahweh will open to you his good treasure in the sky, to give the rain of your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You will lend to many nations, and you will not borrow.
Deu 28:13 Yahweh will make you the head, and not the tail. You will be above only, and you will not be beneath; if you listen to the commandments of Yahweh your God, which I command you today, to observe and to do,
Deu 28:14 and shall not turn away from any of the words which I command you today, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.

Please show me how that demonstrates a point that you disagreed with in what I wrote. I can look up verses. What is your counter claim?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Yep. And the tribe that is currently in the man-made nation of Israel has violated that covenant.

That Land/ Right to that Land, per many Scriptures, is not "Man made". In fact,...... Those who Rule Politically, & Religiously, in the Land of Yisrael Today, are not representative of the "True House of Yudah", nor, are they All of The Children of Yisrael, for the Re-unification of the Two Houses, per many, many Scriptures is An End Times Event.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

You assume correctly. Lisa says she is a Jew, but does not follow the laws.

The so called "613 Laws", that are zealously referred to by many Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed, etc. "Movements"/Sects,.... Absolutely can not be Honored/carried out by every Man, Woman, or Child. It is PHYSICALLY Impossible!

Furthermore, of the "613 Laws",.... There are many that the "Common Yisraelite", &/or "Jew" is FORBIDDEN to even try to Honor them, for they are for the "Levites" only.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Please show me how that demonstrates a point that you disagreed with in what I wrote. I can look up verses. What is your counter claim?

Please show me how that demonstrates a point that you disagreed with in what I wrote. I can look up verses. What is your counter claim?

I didn't realize that You struggle with Comprehending what is in "Print".

Read that first sentence over, & over until You realize that it's not a "Jewish Thing".

 

[rosends]

I didn't realize that You struggle with Comprehending what is in "Print".

Read that first sentence over, & over until You realize that it's not a "Jewish Thing".

You have shown nothing. Why? It should be simple. Just snip a bit from what I said and explain in a concise fashion with what you disagree. Just try.