The Plight of the Working Man

[PoliticalChic]

Well....I had a minor disagreement with my pal Mikey over communist influence in the labor movement,

He said: "The Union Movement was and is by far the most important element in your entire listing -- and you think of it as "anti-American?""
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

and

"The Communist Party did indeed exert some level of influence within the Labor Movement during its early stages..."
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

But I posted this... Trade unions are a school of communism.-Vladimir Lenin

And

"AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’"
AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’




So.....let's take a look at labor under in several venues..


1. Working for someone else involves a conflict of interests, and adjustment in one's life, no matter the political discipline at governance.
In the following, note how the story of Chinese factory workers, leaving their villages to work in urban venues, mirrors the many similarities of Mexicans finding their way into the United States.

a. Hayek points out that in life there are no solutions, merely tradeoffs. Come up with a way to provide healthcare insurance to all the uninsured…but at the cost of dismantling the healthcare system to the remaining millions?
Rationing, shortages, abuse, delay and injustice.

.... make no mistake.....unless it is actual slavery, the worker has made a considered decision, and understands the trade-offs.




2. In Jan-Philipp Sendker's novel set in modern China, "Whispering Shadows," he has this telling scene of workers discussing their factory employment....under this communist government:

"Zhang searched for a Sichuan restaurant. The migrant workers from that province no doubt gathered there...in their dialect.
...he spotted the Old Sichuan. The neon sign over the entrance promised the best hot pot in Shenzhen....
He drew up a stool alongside them, asked for a cigarette, asked if they would recommend the hot pot, whether it was as good as it was in Chongqing, said how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken, and before he knew it they had invited him to eat with them, ordering another plate, a glass and a beer for him without being asked.

Although he had lived in Shenzhen for over twenty years, he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with in Chengdu.

The men around him clearly felt the same way.

They told him how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.


They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages. He saw the sadness in their faces, their melancholy, their exhaustion, and their fatigue.

They were the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them over the years and with whom they ho nongerhad anything in common apart from a terrible wordlessness."
From the novel, "Whispering Shadows," by Jan-Philipp Sendker, p. 123-124


Migrant workers.
....these, living in 'a worker's paradise.'


Isn't this the sort of paradise that the Left promises workers, here, in exchange for their votes?

 

[Moonglow]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

 

[IcebergSlim]

Well....I had a minor disagreement with my pal Mikey over communist influence in the labor movement,

He said: "The Union Movement was and is by far the most important element in your entire listing -- and you think of it as "anti-American?""
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

and

"The Communist Party did indeed exert some level of influence within the Labor Movement during its early stages..."
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

But I posted this... Trade unions are a school of communism.-Vladimir Lenin

And

"AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’"
AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’




So.....let's take a look at labor under in several venues..


1. Working for someone else involves a conflict of interests, and adjustment in one's life, no matter the political discipline at governance.
In the following, note how the story of Chinese factory workers, leaving their villages to work in urban venues, mirrors the many similarities of Mexicans finding their way into the United States.

a. Hayek points out that in life there are no solutions, merely tradeoffs. Come up with a way to provide healthcare insurance to all the uninsured…but at the cost of dismantling the healthcare system to the remaining millions?
Rationing, shortages, abuse, delay and injustice.

.... make no mistake.....unless it is actual slavery, the worker has made a considered decision, and understands the trade-offs.




2. In Jan-Philipp Sendker's novel set in modern China, "Whispering Shadows," he has this telling scene of workers discussing their factory employment....under this communist government:

"Zhang searched for a Sichuan restaurant. The migrant workers from that province no doubt gathered there...in their dialect.
...he spotted the Old Sichuan. The neon sign over the entrance promised the best hot pot in Shenzhen....
He drew up a stool alongside them, asked for a cigarette, asked if they would recommend the hot pot, whether it was as good as it was in Chongqing, said how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken, and before he knew it they had invited him to eat with them, ordering another plate, a glass and a beer for him without being asked.

Although he had lived in Shenzhen for over twenty years, he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with in Chengdu.

The men around him clearly felt the same way.

They told him how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.


They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages. He saw the sadness in their faces, their melancholy, their exhaustion, and their fatigue.

They were the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them over the years and with whom they ho nongerhad anything in common apart from a terrible wordlessness."
From the novel, "Whispering Shadows," by Jan-Philipp Sendker, p. 123-124


Migrant workers.
....these, living in 'a worker's paradise.'


Isn't this the sort of paradise that the Left promises workers, here, in exchange for their votes?

Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents

 

[initforme]

Workers dont have to apply for low wage jobs nor should any american be doing the same jobs as illegals for even close to the same wage. Migrant workers lack thework ethic americans do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Well....I had a minor disagreement with my pal Mikey over communist influence in the labor movement,

He said: "The Union Movement was and is by far the most important element in your entire listing -- and you think of it as "anti-American?""
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

and

"The Communist Party did indeed exert some level of influence within the Labor Movement during its early stages..."
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

But I posted this... Trade unions are a school of communism.-Vladimir Lenin

And

"AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’"
AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’




So.....let's take a look at labor under in several venues..


1. Working for someone else involves a conflict of interests, and adjustment in one's life, no matter the political discipline at governance.
In the following, note how the story of Chinese factory workers, leaving their villages to work in urban venues, mirrors the many similarities of Mexicans finding their way into the United States.

a. Hayek points out that in life there are no solutions, merely tradeoffs. Come up with a way to provide healthcare insurance to all the uninsured…but at the cost of dismantling the healthcare system to the remaining millions?
Rationing, shortages, abuse, delay and injustice.

.... make no mistake.....unless it is actual slavery, the worker has made a considered decision, and understands the trade-offs.




2. In Jan-Philipp Sendker's novel set in modern China, "Whispering Shadows," he has this telling scene of workers discussing their factory employment....under this communist government:

"Zhang searched for a Sichuan restaurant. The migrant workers from that province no doubt gathered there...in their dialect.
...he spotted the Old Sichuan. The neon sign over the entrance promised the best hot pot in Shenzhen....
He drew up a stool alongside them, asked for a cigarette, asked if they would recommend the hot pot, whether it was as good as it was in Chongqing, said how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken, and before he knew it they had invited him to eat with them, ordering another plate, a glass and a beer for him without being asked.

Although he had lived in Shenzhen for over twenty years, he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with in Chengdu.

The men around him clearly felt the same way.

They told him how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.


They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages. He saw the sadness in their faces, their melancholy, their exhaustion, and their fatigue.

They were the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them over the years and with whom they ho nongerhad anything in common apart from a terrible wordlessness."
From the novel, "Whispering Shadows," by Jan-Philipp Sendker, p. 123-124


Migrant workers.
....these, living in 'a worker's paradise.'


Isn't this the sort of paradise that the Left promises workers, here, in exchange for their votes?

Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents

"Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents"

1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl


3. "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession. "
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-during-recovery-during-recession_750068.html


4. In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton." Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire




So.....your claim is that Obama is not a Democrat????

 

[PoliticalChic]

Workers dont have to apply for low wage jobs nor should any american be doing the same jobs as illegals for even close to the same wage. Migrant workers lack thework ethic americans do.

"Migrant workers lack thework ethic americans do."

Really?




1. "Nearly one in six young men (between the ages of 18-34) in the U.S. were either jobless or incarcerated in 2014, according to a new government report. It details a striking amount of male alienation that has been on the rise since the 1980s.
According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), out of the 38 million young men in the U.S. in 2014, 16 percent were jobless (5 million or 13 percent) or incarcerated (1 million or 3 percent). The share of young men without a job or in prison has increased substantially since 1980, when just 11 percent of young men fit into either category." CBO: Nearly 1 in 6 Young Men in U.S. Jobless or Incarcerated - Breitbart

2. "More Than 92 Million Americans Remain Out Of Labor Force
The unemployment rate dropped to 6.3 percent in April from 6.7 percent in March, the lowest it has been since September 2008 when it was 6.1 percent. The sharp drop, though, occurred because the number of people working or seeking work fell. The Bureau of Labor Statistics does not count people not looking for a job as unemployed.

The bureau noted that the civilian labor force dropped by 806,000 last month, following an increase of 503,000 in March."

Report: More Than 92 Million Americans Remain Out Of Labor Force

The amount (not seasonally adjusted) of Americans not in the labor force in April rose to 92,594,000, almost 1 million more than the previous month.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Just proof that communism isn't all bad.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. The Chinese laborers in the OP sound startlingly similar to what one might read about Mexican migrant workers coming to the United States.


Putting aside for the moment, the acts of Mexican workers invading the supposed sovereign nation, America, and mark the similarities with the Chinese migrants.


a. how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken,

b. he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with ...

c. how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.

d. They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages.

"Mexico heavily depends on its workers living abroad to send cash back home. Almost $25 billion flowed last year from the pockets of Mexicans living overseas, almost all of it from the U.S. That's even higher than what Mexico earns from its oil exports." Mexico gets more from cash sent home than from oil

e. the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them

 

[Moonglow]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

Why do i find, so often, wishing that you were more articulate?

 

[Moonglow]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

Why do i find, so often, wishing that you were more articulate?

I can't get more sap out of the tree by banging on it...

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

Why do i find, so often, wishing that you were more articulate?

I can't get more sap out of the tree by banging on it...

My explanation is that you use vague and fatuous posts to hide from the possibility that you might actually have to defend and support what you post.
Or...am I giving you too much credit?

I have no trouble doing so, articulating my perspective, as shown by the links, quotes and sources that I provide.


You're dismissed...and I'll continue with the thread.

 

[Moonglow]

I am sure you are aware that the plight of migrants has always been one of destitution...unless you are rich to begin with...

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

Why do i find, so often, wishing that you were more articulate?

I can't get more sap out of the tree by banging on it...

My explanation is that you use vague and fatuous posts to hide from the possibility that you might actually have to defend and support what you post.
Or...am I giving you too much credit?

I have no trouble doing so, articulating my perspective, as shown by the links, quotes and sources that I provide.


You're dismissed...and I'll continue with the thread.

You have too much dogma and emotive investment for me to break your heart by destroying your whole non argument..

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. It depends on the meaning of 'migrants.'



2. Communism has always been both a fable and an impetus to the labor movements...no matter the country.

The OP, and further posts, will definitively prove that Leftist, communism, socialism, is no anodyne.

Well your abilities to stretch a word to cover everything not associated with it is the failure of the premise...

Why do i find, so often, wishing that you were more articulate?

I can't get more sap out of the tree by banging on it...

My explanation is that you use vague and fatuous posts to hide from the possibility that you might actually have to defend and support what you post.
Or...am I giving you too much credit?

I have no trouble doing so, articulating my perspective, as shown by the links, quotes and sources that I provide.


You're dismissed...and I'll continue with the thread.

You have too much dogma and emotive investment for me to break your heart by destroying your whole non argument..

Oooo.....look: a kite that thinks it can rule the wind.


Clearly you have no such ability as you suggest.


I said you are dismissed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. Too prominent to overlook, the illegal invasion of America by Mexican workers, no matter how necessary they may feel the act is.
I have heard Liberal activists justify criminality of all sorts with a shrug and 'what else could he do?'
They could....obey the immigration laws....if only the government would enforce same.



In Communist China, the plight of the migrant workers must be judged as dispelling the misguided idea that communism, socialism, Liberalism, Leftism, is somehow more beneficial for the worker, the 'little guy,' the peasant....
....total nonsense believed by those who don't think for themselves.
You know who you are.


a. Just the fact that Stalin's 'worker's paradise' slaughtered tens of millions of those workers....should end the myths.



5.So....China's communist/socialist/market socialism.....any better?
a. Workers and peasant are second class citizens with nary a right. They can come into the cities if they accept factory employment....and are shipped right back if found unacceptable.


a. "The hukou system is closely associated with social issues regarding migration in China and excludes migrant workers, also known as farm workers or peasant workers, from city-wide social welfares in urban areas.[22] From around 1953 to 1976, the restriction of a citizen's rights by his domicile caused rural citizens to be separated into an underclass. Urban citizens enjoyed a range of social, economic and cultural benefits that China's rural citizens did not receive.[12] The ruling party did however make some concessions to rural workers to make life in rural areas more tolerable.[23]

During China’s transition from state socialism to market socialism (1978-2001), migrants, most of whom were women,[24] worked in newly created export-processing zones in city suburbs under sub-standard working conditions.[10][23] There were restrictions upon the mobility of migrant workers that forced them to live precarious lives in company dormitories or shanty towns where they were exposed to abusive treatment.[25] " Hukou system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The political slogan Workers of the world, unite! is one of the most famous rallying cries from the Communist Manifesto.....

Takes a certain kind of fool to believe that.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well....I had a minor disagreement with my pal Mikey over communist influence in the labor movement,

He said: "The Union Movement was and is by far the most important element in your entire listing -- and you think of it as "anti-American?""
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

and

"The Communist Party did indeed exert some level of influence within the Labor Movement during its early stages..."
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

But I posted this... Trade unions are a school of communism.-Vladimir Lenin

And

"AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’"
AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’




So.....let's take a look at labor under in several venues..


1. Working for someone else involves a conflict of interests, and adjustment in one's life, no matter the political discipline at governance.
In the following, note how the story of Chinese factory workers, leaving their villages to work in urban venues, mirrors the many similarities of Mexicans finding their way into the United States.

a. Hayek points out that in life there are no solutions, merely tradeoffs. Come up with a way to provide healthcare insurance to all the uninsured…but at the cost of dismantling the healthcare system to the remaining millions?
Rationing, shortages, abuse, delay and injustice.

.... make no mistake.....unless it is actual slavery, the worker has made a considered decision, and understands the trade-offs.




2. In Jan-Philipp Sendker's novel set in modern China, "Whispering Shadows," he has this telling scene of workers discussing their factory employment....under this communist government:

"Zhang searched for a Sichuan restaurant. The migrant workers from that province no doubt gathered there...in their dialect.
...he spotted the Old Sichuan. The neon sign over the entrance promised the best hot pot in Shenzhen....
He drew up a stool alongside them, asked for a cigarette, asked if they would recommend the hot pot, whether it was as good as it was in Chongqing, said how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken, and before he knew it they had invited him to eat with them, ordering another plate, a glass and a beer for him without being asked.

Although he had lived in Shenzhen for over twenty years, he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with in Chengdu.

The men around him clearly felt the same way.

They told him how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.


They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages. He saw the sadness in their faces, their melancholy, their exhaustion, and their fatigue.

They were the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them over the years and with whom they ho nongerhad anything in common apart from a terrible wordlessness."
From the novel, "Whispering Shadows," by Jan-Philipp Sendker, p. 123-124


Migrant workers.
....these, living in 'a worker's paradise.'


Isn't this the sort of paradise that the Left promises workers, here, in exchange for their votes?

Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents

Name the policys...


.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Well....I had a minor disagreement with my pal Mikey over communist influence in the labor movement,

He said: "The Union Movement was and is by far the most important element in your entire listing -- and you think of it as "anti-American?""
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

and

"The Communist Party did indeed exert some level of influence within the Labor Movement during its early stages..."
Arrest Warrant Issued for Amy Goodman in North Dakota After Covering Pipeline Protest

But I posted this... Trade unions are a school of communism.-Vladimir Lenin

And

"AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’"
AFL-CIO Leader Accepts Communist Party Award: ‘I Stand With Them’




So.....let's take a look at labor under in several venues..


1. Working for someone else involves a conflict of interests, and adjustment in one's life, no matter the political discipline at governance.
In the following, note how the story of Chinese factory workers, leaving their villages to work in urban venues, mirrors the many similarities of Mexicans finding their way into the United States.

a. Hayek points out that in life there are no solutions, merely tradeoffs. Come up with a way to provide healthcare insurance to all the uninsured…but at the cost of dismantling the healthcare system to the remaining millions?
Rationing, shortages, abuse, delay and injustice.

.... make no mistake.....unless it is actual slavery, the worker has made a considered decision, and understands the trade-offs.




2. In Jan-Philipp Sendker's novel set in modern China, "Whispering Shadows," he has this telling scene of workers discussing their factory employment....under this communist government:

"Zhang searched for a Sichuan restaurant. The migrant workers from that province no doubt gathered there...in their dialect.
...he spotted the Old Sichuan. The neon sign over the entrance promised the best hot pot in Shenzhen....
He drew up a stool alongside them, asked for a cigarette, asked if they would recommend the hot pot, whether it was as good as it was in Chongqing, said how happy he was to hear his dialect being spoken, and before he knew it they had invited him to eat with them, ordering another plate, a glass and a beer for him without being asked.

Although he had lived in Shenzhen for over twenty years, he had not taken the town to heart. How was a person to become familiar with a place that changed so quickly that none of its inhabitants recognized it after a few years!...He often missed the relaxed and easygoing atmosphere that he was familiar with in Chengdu.

The men around him clearly felt the same way.

They told him how homesick they were and how difficult it was for the unmarried to find a wife, about their dreams of opening a small shop, tearoom, or restaurant in Chengdu or Chongqing with their saving.


They had originally only wanted to stay two years, but now they had been there for five or six years and there was no end in sight. Their salaries supported their families in their villages. He saw the sadness in their faces, their melancholy, their exhaustion, and their fatigue.

They were the typical stories of the migrant workers, who could almost never save enough money to open their own businesses, who worked until their bodies were completely worn out and sucked dry, only to return to families who had grown strangers to them over the years and with whom they ho nongerhad anything in common apart from a terrible wordlessness."
From the novel, "Whispering Shadows," by Jan-Philipp Sendker, p. 123-124


Migrant workers.
....these, living in 'a worker's paradise.'


Isn't this the sort of paradise that the Left promises workers, here, in exchange for their votes?

Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents

"Manufacturing Jobs Rise Under Democratic Presidents"

1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl


3. "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession. "
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-during-recovery-during-recession_750068.html


4. In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton." Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire




So.....your claim is that Obama is not a Democrat????

We have a winner in the category of "Unintentional Humor"!!!


It's the head-dunce himself....Barack Obama.
Yesterday he tried to make fun of Trump in the name of 'working people'...

"Obama blasts Trump as a phony champion of the working class
“I keep on reading this analysis that Trump’s got support from, like, working folks,” Obama said. “Really? This is the guy you want to be championing working people? This guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people.”
Obama blasts Trump as a phony champion of the working class





This Obama:

1... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


2. Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl


3. "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession. "
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-during-recovery-during-recession_750068.html


4. In a stunning Tuesday report, Gallup CEO and Chairman Jim Clifton revealed that “for the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.”Clifton says for the past six years since 2008, employer business startups have fallen below the business failure rate, spurring what he calls “an underground earthquake” that only stands to worsen as lagging U.S. Census data becomes available.
“Let’s get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses,” writes Clifton." Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting - Breitbart


5. Obama is the first President never to have had a year of 3% or better economic growth: "... annual growth during Obama’s “recovery” has never topped 3%. By comparison, it never fell below 3% during the Reagan recovery. And in the nine years following the 1990-91 recession, GDP grew faster than 3% in all but two. Heck, even Jimmy Carter had some strong growth years." President Obama's Growth Gap Hits $1.31 Trillion

a. "The years since 2007 have been a macroeconomic disaster for the United States of a magnitude unprecedented since the Great Depression." Obama: Always Wrong, Never In Doubt

b. ".... first president since Hoover to never have a single year above 3% GDP growth." Obama economy is 'amazing,' says hedge fund billionaire



Are there really folks stupid enough to accept Democrat propaganda?????

 

[PoliticalChic]

A medial review?


a. Many vote Democrat....65 million at the last presidential election....under the misguided assumption that Leftsts.....socialists, communists, Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, whatever iteration they call themselves today...

....would make the lives of workers better.


b. The Soviet Bolsheviks...predecessors of the current Democrat Party....ended millions of lives.....hardly a definition of 'better.'


c. The current such establishment...Communist China....is illustrated in this thread.


d. One can only be amazed at the numbers who have been convinced to give up liberty and freedom to support these outcomes.




e. But....fewer and fewer seem to have cast their lot in with what Lenin described this way: Trade unions are a school of communism
Perhaps there is still hope for America

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now, back to this 'worker's paradaise'.....

6. "Peasants and migrant workers make up more than 65% of China’s population, and 45 percent of the Chinese live under the poverty line in spite of a double digit growth. Proceeds from economic growth are hoarded by the central government. China’s policy has focused on making the nation strong and urban. Chinese leaders chose to achieve this strength—which is not the same as development—by exploiting the rural Chinese at the cheapest cost, sending them to work in urban factories producing goods for the global marketplace. This conflict between the new urban capitalism, flourishing with Party support, and the former rural capitalism, now languishing, has dug a social divide with no equivalent in other nations, rich or poor. Growth of illiteracy rates in rural China—a direct legacy of the Party’s economic strategy. " http://www.city-journal.org/2009/bc0313gs.html


A reminder: no permutation of big government supports individual freedom. Not communism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism, Fascism nor Nazism.




7. "Dabbling with some level of capitalism occurred...President Hu Jintao talks of social justice and a harmonious society. But beyond this rhetoric, which had nourished Huang’s hopes (at least initially), little of substance has changed.

Sound like the Democrat Party?


This capitalist surge occurred, ....by exploiting the rural Chinese at the cheapest cost, sending them to work in urban factories producing goods for the global marketplace, again, without any official property rights or rule of law. The new entrepreneurs, however, were closely connected with the local Communist Party bureaucrats or apparatchiks.

Exactly the same 'crony capitalism' of the current administration.


Did development lead to political freedom? Alas, nothing of the sort happened.


The Hukou identification system, which links any Chinese to his mother’s village of origin. In practice, this amounts to legal apartheid, allowing the urban employer to send back to his mother’s home the unproductive or restless worker.


45 percent of the Chinese live under the poverty line in spite of a double digit growth. The strategy fits perfectly with the ambition of the Party: a strong, educated, modern, and city-based China, served by an army of 1 billion workers who keep wages low and competitive."
http://www.city-journal.org/2009/bc0313gs.html



The plight of 'workers of the world' uniting under communism/socialism/Liberalism.