The NPV may be closer than you think

[Concerned American]

It has been a democratic republic from the beginning. And the pledge (1954) is proof of nothing.

Where in that post does it say it is a democracy? Please link to ANY founder that called this form of gov't a democracy. Heed the words---"A REPUBLIC---if you can keep it." Clearly you have no desire to keep it as you advocate for a Marxist state continuously.

 

[Billiejeens]

How is this any different than what is being done now? Almost every state in the union uses the PV to determine how it electors go.

within it's state -

this is not that.

 

[Billiejeens]

There was not a majority of the votes for Trump.

Well, this is one example

 

[berg80]

The National Popular Vote Act may be in position to jump the shark this fall.

It's why I support it with my time and money.

 

[Clipper]

Please get it through your thick skull---I didn't vote ^^^ for Biden.

Your ^^^ self-deprecation doesn't disparage you nearly enough, junior.

You can lie & distract, cult follower & lackey about who I was posting about but your bullshit only impresses those who are as craven as you are.

How about that plan of his his to loot the Treasury for over $400 million to pay for his vanity project ballroom, sucker? Remember how it supposedly wouldn't cost the taxpayer's a dime? How'd that work out, sucker?

 

[g5000]

Good points. I'm also not so sure that the founders weren't on the right track when they set it up that the right to vote required land ownership.

You may as well argue that the Founders set it up so only white men were allowed to vote.

You wish things were like that, eh? You probably wish only white male property owners are allowed to vote, too, right? Of course you do.

The Founders did not set it up so only property owners could vote. That is not in the Constitution.

They set it up so that states decided on suffrage. There were several which had no property requirements. By the 1820s, the majority of states had universal white suffrage.

 

[Billiejeens]

Where in that post does it say it is a democracy? Please link to ANY founder that called this form of gov't a democracy. Heed the words---"A REPUBLIC---if you can keep it." Clearly you have no desire to keep it as you advocate for a Marxist state continuously.

with this one, unlike some, I think that it is just overwhelming ignorance.

 

[Concerned American]

Yeah, you for Trump, the worst president in our history.

I guess you're probably too young to remember the third worst, Jimmie Carter. You might have been too young to remember the second, "W" and you voted for the worst--the dementia-addled Joe Biden. Glad I could help you with that--you're welcome.

 

[berg80]

You may as well argue that the Founders set it up so only white men were allowed to vote.

You wish things were like that, eh? You probably wish only white male property owners are allowed to vote, too, right? Of course you do.

The Founders did not set it up so only property owners could vote. That is not in the Constitution.

They set it up so that states decided on suffrage. There were several which had no property requirements. By the 1820s, the majority of states had universal white suffrage.

Not to mention that US Senators have only been elected by direct popular vote since 1913. Necessary corrections to the Constitution have been made over the years. Getting rid of the EC is long overdue.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Where in that post does it say it is a democracy? Please link to ANY founder that called this form of gov't a democracy. Heed the words---"A REPUBLIC---if you can keep it." Clearly you have no desire to keep it as you advocate for a Marxist state continuously.

Does not have to. Our republic runs on democratic principles.

You have no idea what is "marxism", but you sure act like you are Alt Right.

 

[berg80]

I guess you're probably too young to remember the third worst, Jimmie Carter. You might have been too young to remember the second, "W" and you voted for the worst--the dementia-addled Joe Biden. Glad I could help you with that--you're welcome.

By "W" I assume you mean Dubya. Despite the disastrous aspects of his presidency absolutely nothing comes close to trump. Because it isn't only his abject incompetence and corruption that's the problem. It's his constant attacks on the rule of law and the foundations of the republic. No prez in history has torn the fabric of America in every way possible, intentionally, like Dotard.

 

[Concerned American]

You can lie & distract, cult follower & lackey about who I was posting about but your bullshit only impresses those who are as craven as you are.

How about that plan of his his to loot the Treasury for over $400 million to pay for his vanity project ballroom, sucker? Remember how it supposedly wouldn't cost the taxpayer's a dime? How'd that work out, sucker?

Once again, for the tone deaf, the ballroom is being built with donor dollars--the secure bunker under it will be funded by tax $$$. LOL, if you had your way, security would be duck and cover like they did for the WHCA dinner. SMH, run along you're boring me with your willful ignorance.

 

[Concerned American]

with this one, unlike some, I think that it is just overwhelming ignorance.

Yeah, there's a few of them on here recently---Skulls so thick that they don't get it when you spoon-feed them facts. Public school failures.

 

[Billiejeens]

Does not have to. Our republic runs on democratic principles.

You have no idea what is "marxism", but you sure act like you are Alt Right.

there is no "alt right" in the US.

 

[Billiejeens]

Once again, for the tone deaf, the ballroom is being built with donor dollars--the secure bunker under it will be funded by tax $$$. LOL, if you had your way, security would be duck and cover like they did for the WHCA dinner. SMH, run along you're boring me with your willful ignorance.

easy
clippy is only 12

 

[berg80]

Once again, for the tone deaf, the ballroom is being built with donor dollars--the secure bunker under it will be funded by tax $$$. LOL, if you had your way, security would be duck and cover like they did for the WHCA dinner. SMH, run along you're boring me with your willful ignorance.

Republicans propose $1 billion in an immigration bill for Trump’s ballroom project.​

Senate Republicans have inserted $1 billion for White House East Wing security enhancements in the immigration enforcement funding bill they hope to rush through Congress this month, setting up a political fight over a ballroom that President Trump has said would be financed with private money.

The leaders of the Judiciary and Homeland Security Committees on Monday released plans for the roughly $70 billion package, which would significantly bolster spending on Immigration and Customs Enforcement and border patrol through the end of Mr. Trump’s term using a party-line legislative process that can skirt a filibuster.

A surprise addition to the measure was the $1 billion proposed by the Judiciary Committee for security work related to Mr. Trump’s East Wing renovation. The measure does not mention the president’s proposed new ballroom, which is being challenged in court, but Mr. Trump has insisted that a main reason for the project is to enhance security.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/05/us/trump-news?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20260505&instance_id=175146&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=219407&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429c

 

[Billiejeens]

Republicans propose $1 billion in an immigration bill for Trump’s ballroom project.​

Senate Republicans have inserted $1 billion for White House East Wing security enhancements in the immigration enforcement funding bill they hope to rush through Congress this month, setting up a political fight over a ballroom that President Trump has said would be financed with private money.

The leaders of the Judiciary and Homeland Security Committees on Monday released plans for the roughly $70 billion package, which would significantly bolster spending on Immigration and Customs Enforcement and border patrol through the end of Mr. Trump’s term using a party-line legislative process that can skirt a filibuster.

A surprise addition to the measure was the $1 billion proposed by the Judiciary Committee for security work related to Mr. Trump’s East Wing renovation. The measure does not mention the president’s proposed new ballroom, which is being challenged in court, but Mr. Trump has insisted that a main reason for the project is to enhance security.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/05/us/trump-news?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20260505&instance_id=175146&nl=breaking-news&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=219407&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429c

"Security enhancements" are not the same words as "ballroom"

did you even go to school?

 

[jacksonlamb]

Once again, for the tone deaf, the ballroom is being built with donor dollars--the secure bunker under it will be funded by tax $$$. LOL, if you had your way, security would be duck and cover like they did for the WHCA dinner. SMH, run along you're boring me with your willful ignorance.

It will be confiscated by the next Democratic administration.

 

[jacksonlamb]

there is no "alt right" in the US.

There sure is.

 

[Concerned American]

It will be confiscated by the next Democratic administration.

What are they going to do, bus some Somalians from MN and load it on their backs?