The NPV may be closer than you think

[Concerned American]

The entire purpose of our "constitutional" democracy was to fix the flaws in democracy that failed to address the needs of the minority whose rights and voice are often stifled and even trampled by majority rule, I have no problem with a constitutional amendment to change our constitution, but this is just one more way white liberals have found to try and skirt the constitution...do it right or don't do it.

Good points. I'm also not so sure that the founders weren't on the right track when they set it up that the right to vote required land ownership. Truly land owners are the only folks who have skin in the game.

 

[Rogue AI]

I deny he won the majority of the popular vote.

The Constitution does not recognize your fantasy 'popular vote'. Try harder.

 

[Oddball]

No it won't. It is perfectly constitutional.

No it's not....This is like term limits; in order to get it you have to pass an amendment or change through and Article V Con Con....There's absolutely no provision in Article V -the one that deals with how to change the Constitution- for such a compact.

But you mob rule authoritarians keep swingin' away with your little pipe dream...You're not wasting any of my time, money, and energy.

 

[Clipper]

Not larger states----larger cities. Like NYC, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit and DC. Just the type of uninformed voter that we want making decisions re: farming, ecology, water allocation, and resources. The NPV is DOA.

^^^^ This drivel from you who voted for the most corrupt, incompetent, deranged pile of shit who ever held ANY public office in the history of this country?

Nothing but a two- bit hustler, conman & cult leader who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Now your boy is about to loot the Treasury for $400 million plus to pay for his gold plated ballroom, sucker. But just think, you'll get to drool over pics of it.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Good points. I'm also not so sure that the founders weren't on the right track when they set it up that the right to vote required land ownership. Truly land owners are the only folks who have skin in the game.

The Founders were not concerned about democracy.

They were concerned about property and representation for taxation. Democratic principles have evolved from the document and our history since 1787.

 

[jacksonlamb]

No it's not....This is like term limits; in order to get it you have to pass an amendment or change through and Article V Con Con....There's absolutely no provision in Article V -the one that deals with how to change the Constitution- for such a compact.

But you mob rule authoritarians keep swingin' away with your little pipe dream...You're not wasting any of my time, money, and energy.

Nope, a 50% plus one is not mob rule or voter authoritarianism.

If it were bad, the gerrymandering going on driven by both parties' need and greed for power would not be happening.

 

[g5000]

There was not a majority of the votes for Trump.

Trump did receive the most popular votes. Just not 50 percent.

 

[g5000]

In the past 100 years, only two people have won the presidency who lost the popular vote. Trump in 2016, and Bush in 2000.

In the past 235 years of presidential elections, there have been a total of five such instances.

Would Gore have gotten us into Iraq? Who knows.

Would the subprime and derivatives bubble have been avoided if Gore was in office? Nope!

Would Hillary have bungled the Covid pandemic as badly as Trump? I doubt it.

 

[Concerned American]

I deny he won the majority of the popular vote.

Was there any other candidate that received more votes than he did? You democrats will grasp at anything to gaslight your point--LOL, whatever makes you sleep better.

 

[Concerned American]

The Founders were not concerned about democracy.

They were concerned about property and representation for taxation. Democratic principles have evolved from the document and our history since 1787.

Once again for the ignorant. America is NOT a democracy. It is a republic, hence the line in the pledge that you abhor---"...and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands." Try again.

 

[Rogue AI]

The Founders were not concerned about democracy.

They were concerned about property and representation for taxation. Democratic principles have evolved from the document and our history since 1787.

Get an amendment, your petty feelz aren't a legitimate Constitutional argument.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Get an amendment, your petty feelz aren't a legitimate Constitutional argument.

Don't need one. Anchor baby exclusion from citizenship does.

 

[Concerned American]

This drivel from you who voted for the most corrupt, incompetent, deranged pile of shit who ever held ANY public office in the history of this country?

Please get it through your thick skull---I didn't vote ^^^ for Biden.

Nothing but a two- bit hustler, conman

Your ^^^ self-deprecation doesn't disparage you nearly enough, junior.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Once again for the ignorant. America is NOT a democracy. It is a republic, hence the line in the pledge that you abhor---"...and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands." Try again.

It has been a democratic republic from the beginning. And the pledge (1954) is proof of nothing.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Please get it through your thick skull---I didn't vote ^^^ for Biden.

Your ^^^ self-deprecation doesn't disparage you nearly enough, junior.

Yeah, you for Trump, the worst president in our history.

 

[Oddball]

Nope, a 50% plus one is not mob rule or voter authoritarianism.

 

[jacksonlamb]

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Yes, you are the fool ranting about American democracy.

Even Hillary would have been much better than this fool, Trump.

 

[jacksonlamb]

you are crazy
really.

How?

 

[Oddball]

Yes, you are the fool ranting about American democracy.

Even Hillary would have been much better than this fool, Trump.

You obviously don't know your ass from a hot rock, as to the construction of the Constitution and the American republic.

 

[Concerned American]

It has been a democratic republic from the beginning. And the pledge (1954) is proof of nothing.

Where in that post does it say it is a democracy? Please link to ANY founder that called this form of gov't a democracy. Heed the words---"A REPUBLIC---if you can keep it." Clearly you have no desire to keep it as you advocate for a Marxist state continuously.