The Myth of Republicans Walking Away because of Trump

[Claudette]

LOL Well Biden just added 1.9 trillion to the debt.

Yea...to mitigate a fucking PANDEMIC ya fucking moron. Trump added trillions BEFORE the pandemic hit

Just to let you know. I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent.

You're a Trump Humper. There's nothing "Independent" about that. You're a cultist

Nope. I'm a Trump voter. You seem to be the anti-Trump cultist. And I am an Independent. Sorry if that burst your Rep hating ass but so be it.

I'll just stand over her and LMAO at your stupidity.

We've heard your laughter. It puts the lie to everything you claim to stand for. You have cheered on as Trump separated families, with no intention of reuniting the parents. You have cheered while he locked up 40,000 minority immigrants, without due process, and left them in taxpayer funded squalor for two years.

You believe his lies, and tune out anyone who tries to enlighten you because, in truth, you're enjoying the cruelty to to people you think are your "inferiors". You want a facist, authoritarian President, because you believe in facism.

You want democracy in the USA destroyed.

And you are full of shit. Funny, didn't hear your mouth when Obama built the cages and separated kids from parents. If they were their parents that is. Well those 40,000 should have stayed in their own country.

Since your a socialist what does US democracy matter to you?? It doesn't. Just another subject you can flap your gums on.

You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped your face. Go inflict yourself on Canadian message boards. If they didn't throw you out that is.

Well that's because Obama didn't take babies away from their parents, or lock families up in cages. The detention facilities were built for unaccompanied minors - children who weren't travelling with their parents. Furthermore, the Obama Administration complied with court orders regarding detention of these children, and released them to the custody of family members in the USA.

Liars, such as yourself, have repeatedly tried to promote this false equivalency, but there is nothing remotely equivalent to taking nursing babies away from their mothers with absolutely no way of reuniting the families - and to do that on purpose. Furthermore, Trump's cabinet voted in favour of all these criminal actions.

And most odious at all - YOU'RE FUCKING DEFENDING THIS CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. SHAME ON YOU!

The pictures from 2014 tell a different story.

You love crimes against humanity. You spout them all the time on this board only you accuse others.

Have a nice day dumbass. LOL

Use that google machine you're so proud of stupid and see if Obama actually separated families.

Well the kids were in cages. Where were the parents??

 

[sealybobo]

LOL Well Biden just added 1.9 trillion to the debt.

Yea...to mitigate a fucking PANDEMIC ya fucking moron. Trump added trillions BEFORE the pandemic hit

Just to let you know. I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent.

You're a Trump Humper. There's nothing "Independent" about that. You're a cultist

Nope. I'm a Trump voter. You seem to be the anti-Trump cultist. And I am an Independent. Sorry if that burst your Rep hating ass but so be it.

I'll just stand over her and LMAO at your stupidity.

I’m so glad we won. Act like it doesn’t bother you.

 

[Claudette]

LOL Well Biden just added 1.9 trillion to the debt.

Yea...to mitigate a fucking PANDEMIC ya fucking moron. Trump added trillions BEFORE the pandemic hit

Just to let you know. I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent.

You're a Trump Humper. There's nothing "Independent" about that. You're a cultist

Nope. I'm a Trump voter. You seem to be the anti-Trump cultist. And I am an Independent. Sorry if that burst your Rep hating ass but so be it.

I'll just stand over her and LMAO at your stupidity.

I’m so glad we won. Act like it doesn’t bother you.

Well lets see just what you won. I'd bet it will be the Second Great Depression with Biden at the helm. Guess we shall see.

 

[Lesh]

Republicans never believed the words of the Constitution. Ever.

Right, the Republicans. You just watched and I'm sure cheered when the Nazis impeached a sitting US President for exercising his first amendment rights, and then tell us how Republicans don't respect the Constitution????

Freedom of Speech Doesn’t Mean What Trump’s Lawyers Want It to Mean

The First Amendment does not limit the removal and disqualification powers conferred on Congress by the Constitution.

www.theatlantic.com

The First Amendment guarantees free speech .

Does it guarantee that a President can wear a Nazi arm band and advocate that Jews be sent back to Israel or Blacks back to Africa?

That would be protected speech under the 1st Amendment. It would however violate his Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitution

 

[Lesh]

Well lets see just what you won. I'd bet it will be the Second Great Depression with Biden at the helm. Guess we shall see.

Like your prediction that Trump Humpers are going to rise up on March 4 huh?

 

[Claudette]

Well lets see just what you won. I'd bet it will be the Second Great Depression with Biden at the helm. Guess we shall see.

Like your prediction that Trump Humpers are going to rise up on March 4 huh?

Hey. Not my prediction. But you sure seem fixated on it.

March will tell the tale now won't it.

 

[Lesh]

LMAO No one can control a pandemic.

Oddly the US has had the worst response in the developed world. Use your famous Google machine and look up how South Korea did.

Yes they do. Nice pictures of kids in cages. Oh they tried to say that Trump was responsible but the pics were from 2014. Guess who was POTUS then?? Why Obama. Surprise.

Were any of those kids taken from their families? No?

You'd know that if you did more than look at pictures.

 

[Lesh]

Well the kids were in cages. Where were the parents??

But you are a google expert right? Did you stop at the pictures?

Newsflash..they were NOT taken from their parents

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obama's orders didn't kill businesses.

Of course they didn't. He shutdown the Gulf and wouldn't reopen it until a judge ordered him to. He shutdown car dealerships across the country. He shutdown roll-you-own cigarette shops across the nation by taxing them out of business. He stopped mail order cigarettes from Indian tribes. He shutdown rural hospitals with his idiotic healthcare plan. He attacked the Gibson guitar company twice, the second time where they threatened to move overseas if the Kenyan lawn jockey didn't leave them alone. And yes, he refused to let the Keystone pipeline go through that would have created tens of thousands of jobs.

DumBama was the most anti-business President in our lifetime.

 

[Claudette]

LMAO No one can control a pandemic.

Oddly the US has had the worst response in the developed world. Use your famous Google machine and look up how South Korea did.

Yes they do. Nice pictures of kids in cages. Oh they tried to say that Trump was responsible but the pics were from 2014. Guess who was POTUS then?? Why Obama. Surprise.

Were any of those kids taken from their families? No?

You'd know that if you did more than look at pictures.

South Korea doesn't have 350 million citizens either. Once that pandemic his our shores nothing was going to stop it.

Newsflash: Do you see any parents in those photos?? I sure don't.

 

[Dragonlady]

The Republican Party has gone full blown authoritarian with their refusal to hold Trump accountable

Not only do they refuse to hold Trump accountable, they censure those who do.

But they refused to censure the Qanon House Rep who wants to shoot the Squad.

Well you refuse to condemn the Dem Sharia Law mutants we have in Congress and their lets hate Jews philosophy.

You also refuse to condemn the Dems when they called Trump a racist when he tried to stop flights into the US to slow the pandemic.

You also refuse to condemn Pelousy when she told one and all the virus was nothing and not to worry about it. You refuse to condemn Dems on anything.

Oh and I do hold Trump accountable for the great job he did as POTUS. The country was doing great before the very convenient Chinese virus.

"Sharia law mutants" - another lie.

Trump is a racist, and he used racism and xenophobia to blame the Chinese for his mishandling of the pandemic. Trump did not stop any flights from anywhere. That's not what he did at all, so there's another lie you believe.

Last, but certainly not least, NOTHING that Trump did do, did anything to slow down or stop the entry of the virus into the United States. His attempts to keep the virus from coming failed utterly, so Democrats were right to condemn his policies.

The nations who took the WHO test, manufactured it, and focussed on testing everyone coming into the country had much better success at slowing the spead. They also quarantined new arrivals from hot zones, was far more effective in keeping the virus out and slowing the spread than anything Trump did.

Nancy Pelosi said nothing of the kind - that is a complete mischaracterization of what she did say - which is that the Asians are not to blame for the virus, and to stop attacking people because they're Chinese.

The "country" was doing terribly. Even with full employment, working people were falling further and further behind, economically. Manufacturing had dropped to 2009 levels and was in recession. The trade wars had increased the trade deficit by $200 billion. Farm bankruptcies were at record levels two years running, and 40% of farm income in 2019 was from government bailouts.

Business investment was declining, and the middle class was shrinking. Obama more than doubled the stock market in his first term. Under Trump, it barely rose 50% over 4 years. The wealth gap was widening, and working people now needed 53 weeks wages to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lets look at the real truth
Republicans suppress the vote among low income people and in the ghetto. They reduce the number of polling places, number of voting machines and move polling places to inconvenient areas.
Yet, they still line up to vote.

What country are you from? The Republicans don't suppress anything. Voting, where the polls are at, how many poll workers will be there are all locally decided. If there is a large enough Democrat base, the people who make those decisions are Democrat politicians. Republicans can only regulate voting in their areas where they have the power, just like Democrat areas. Communists lie. Don't take their word for anything.

 

[Lesh]

South Korea doesn't have 350 million citizens either

They have half their population packed into the Seoul metro area stupid. That's 25 million people in a very small area. God you're stupid and brainwashed

Newsflash: Do you see any parents in those photos?? I sure don't.

And that means what? That you don't know how to read? That you believe what you want to believe?

Those kids were not taken from their families. They were unaccompanied minors

I guess google forgot to tell you that huh?

Friggin moron

 

[schmidlap]

The Myth of Republicans Walking Away because of Trump

Trump lickspittles will denounce Republicans like McConnell and Cheney who condemn his deploying his goons to violently overturn a democratic election, but, while a few Proud Boys have now turned on the failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer, his cult will be largely impervious.

Conspicuous among those who did not "walk away" are tje stalwarts of the ill-fated Trump® flotilla, those salty swabs who re-enacted the fate of the Spanish Armada, presaging Trump's already putrid sinking poll numbers.

That was a delightful harbinger of Cry Baby Loser's descent into the maelstrom, Trump's stinkpot jockeys consigned to the deep.

 

[sealybobo]

LOL Well Biden just added 1.9 trillion to the debt.

Yea...to mitigate a fucking PANDEMIC ya fucking moron. Trump added trillions BEFORE the pandemic hit

Just to let you know. I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent.

You're a Trump Humper. There's nothing "Independent" about that. You're a cultist

Nope. I'm a Trump voter. You seem to be the anti-Trump cultist. And I am an Independent. Sorry if that burst your Rep hating ass but so be it.

I'll just stand over her and LMAO at your stupidity.

I’m so glad we won. Act like it doesn’t bother you.

Well lets see just what you won. I'd bet it will be the Second Great Depression with Biden at the helm. Guess we shall see.

Has never happened to a democratic president in my lifetime.

Democrats do slow steady growth. Republicans like booms and busts. Risky. And just makes the rich richer.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The First Amendment guarantees free speech .

Does it guarantee that a President can wear a Nazi arm band and advocate that Jews be sent back to Israel or Blacks back to Africa?

That would be protected speech under the 1st Amendment. It would however violate his Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitution

It was supposed to protect him in this situation. Nothing in Trump's speech incited violence. In fact he instructed his followers to march to the Capital peacefully and patriotically, therefore that speech is supposed to be protected. Furthermore by impeaching him, every member who voted for it violated their oath to office, which says they will protect and support the US Constitution. The Nazis have taken over, and these anti-Americans need to be defeated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oddly the US has had the worst response in the developed world. Use your famous Google machine and look up how South Korea did.

One of the things that SK attribute to their success is the interaction between private industry and the government, so they had testing ability almost immediately. Here, we have an FDA, and the FDA only gave approval to one test kit, and that kit was made by the CDC. Unfortunately, when we started using them, only then did we find they were faulty, and had to start all over again when the rest of the world was looking for test kits as well.

Thank your bureaucracies for that.

 

[rightwinger]

The Myth of Republicans Walking Away because of Trump

Just like the polls were a myth?

Polls are the world's purest paid propaganda, and if some people haven't figured out never to look at one or finish an article that the word "poll" pops up in, I have.

The polls predicted Trump would lose by a wide margin.....he did

The polls predicted Trump would lose Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona.....he did

Polls are not relevant to stolen elections.

Not placating your silly conspiracy theories

 

[rightwinger]

LMAO No one can control a pandemic. Anyone who says they can is flat out lying.

You can do things to lessen the impact and “flatten the curve”

In the absence of an effective vaccine, isolation, social distancing and masks are the only defense.

Trump mocked those advocating safe measures and took action against Governors who enacted restrictions.

 

[Dragonlady]

Obama's orders didn't kill businesses.

Of course they didn't. He shutdown the Gulf and wouldn't reopen it until a judge ordered him to. He shutdown car dealerships across the country. He shutdown roll-you-own cigarette shops across the nation by taxing them out of business. He stopped mail order cigarettes from Indian tribes. He shutdown rural hospitals with his idiotic healthcare plan. He attacked the Gibson guitar company twice, the second time where they threatened to move overseas if the Kenyan lawn jockey didn't leave them alone. And yes, he refused to let the Keystone pipeline go through that would have created tens of thousands of jobs.

DumBama was the most anti-business President in our lifetime.

Do you feel better letting all of that bullshit out of your body Ray. Obama created what Donald Trump called the "greatest economy in history". He tripled the stock market, and had the longest period of sustained economic growth in American history.

Somehow you expect us to believe that Obama created all of this wealth, all of these jobs, and the greatest economy in American history because he was the most "anti-business President in your lifetime". Maybe Obama was the most economically successful President in your lifetime BECAUSE he was the most PRO PEOPLE President of your lifetime.

Investment isn't what drives the US economy, it's spending. If American workers can't spend, the economy is slow, and spending is the engine that drives the economy. Investment is a response to spending. If people have no money to buy your products, you don't have a market.

Obama's policies created demand and demand created jobs. Republican policies create wealth, but supress demand in doing so. It's a balancing act - to create demand without stifling investment, and to give the workers their fair share of the income they create. Republicans have failed utterly to do that. Their policies only create wealth, but stagnate wages, supressing demand.



The problem with the American economy isn't that it is "anti-business". Far from it. The problem with the American economy is that it's "pro-business" and not "pro-people". It's government of, for and by the people, not for the corporations.