The Bible Is Evidence

[hobelim]

The old testament prophets are forever scolding Israel for whoring after false gods. Roman mythology doesn't rely on Egypt or Sumer. Mithraism does come from Rome, but the foundational myths of Israel come from Babylon and the Ugarit. I don't have a problem with the Jews. Let the archaeology speak for itself. Catholic does mean universal.

You expect me to believe that you have no problem with "The Jews" even though you accuse them of being the object of contempt, the scarlet beast that sits on seven hills , which is well known to be about the Roman Church who historically persecuted and killed anyone who opposed their false mystery babylonian religion doing the things that the beast was predicted to do in great detail hundreds of years earlier by Jews? When have "The Jews" ever persecuted "The Jews"?

"The Jews" never practiced any babylonian mystery cult. The Roman Catholic Church does.

Shit, even according to your own words you whored after a false god by lifting your skirt for the antichrist, a mangod, conjured from the depths of hell by Rome and unleashed on the world in 325

Who are you to judge "the Jews" of long ago for doing exactly what you have done recently? You seem to lift your skirt for every religion that winks at you, according to you, you ignorant slut. lol

Archeology? PFT. Let your own history speak for itself.

 

[HaShev]

Rome never conquered Babylon. The Jews borrowed mythos from other cultures namely Babylon, Egypt and Ras Shamra. Martin Luther claimed Rome was the Whore of Babylon after he fell out with Rome.

The Hebrews came from Chaldean territories of Babylon (UR) and had Chaldean influences which technically isn't borrowing, it's called re-explaining, expanding on, and reinventing (philosophically)things from that which expressions and symbolism is familiar with them. BAAL is the adversary of the Chaldean god which became the Biblical HaSheva of the Hebrews.
And if you believe Shalemite Canaanites are forming the group later to be labeled as Jews along with UR's (Hebrews) when Malakh Tsadek teaches Abraham about monotheistic worship, & devotion to righteousness and kindness to neighbors and strangers, then they too were adversaries to Baal worship.

 

[surada]

The Hebrews came from Chaldean territories of Babylon (UR) and had Chaldean influences which technically isn't borrowing, it's called re-explaining, expanding on, and reinventing (philosophically)things from that which expressions and symbolism is familiar with them. BAAL is the adversary of the Chaldean god which became the Biblical HaSheva of the Hebrews.
And if you believe Shalemite Canaanites are forming the group later to be labeled as Jews along with UR's (Hebrews) when Malakh Tsadek teaches Abraham about monotheistic worship, & devotion to righteousness and kindness to neighbors and strangers, then they too were adversaries to Baal worship.

There was no Ur of the Chaldeans in the time of Abraham.

 

[surada]

The Hebrews came from Chaldean territories of Babylon (UR) and had Chaldean influences which technically isn't borrowing, it's called re-explaining, expanding on, and reinventing (philosophically)things from that which expressions and symbolism is familiar with them. BAAL is the adversary of the Chaldean god which became the Biblical HaSheva of the Hebrews.
And if you believe Shalemite Canaanites are forming the group later to be labeled as Jews along with UR's (Hebrews) when Malakh Tsadek teaches Abraham about monotheistic worship, & devotion to righteousness and kindness to neighbors and strangers, then they too were adversaries to Baal worship.

The Chaldeans (612-539BCE)

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[HaShev]

There was no Ur of the Chaldeans in the time of Abraham.

Abraham came from UR, look up the region and who they were before they "crossed the river"
Which is what Hebrews mean. Look up their beliefs, and who was their god and understand why that translated into the Michaeline faith that it was. Chaldeans and Babylon crossed paths /territories but their beliefs were not.
*Making wiki wiki wiki sounds on the turntable for laughs-because we had this discussion already=sounding like broken record.

Ur of the Chaldees - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

Abraham came from UR, look up the region and who they were before they "crossed the river"
Which is what Hebrews mean. Look up their beliefs, and who was their god and understand why that translated into the Michaeline faith that it was. Chaldeans and Babylon crossed paths /territories but their beliefs were not.

They didn't exist until 600 BC...

 

[HaShev]

They didn't exist until 600 BC...

That's the founding Dynasty Date.

Born	Abram ben Terah c. 2150 BCE Ur Kaśdim, Chaldea, Sumer (present-day Iraq)

(Kaśdim) is translated as Chaldaeans

 

[surada]

That's the founding Dynasty Date.

Born	Abram ben Terah c. 2150 BCE Ur Kaśdim, Chaldea, Sumer (present-day Iraq)

(Kaśdim) is translated as Chaldaeans

Abraham is much too early by hundreds of years. It's likely that Abraham was from Urfa near Haran.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not evidence either ...

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That's not to say there isn't a lot of cool stuff in it ... but it's not meant to be taken literally.

So because fiction books exist, non-fiction books should be totally discounted?

 

[Cecilie1200]

They guys who wrote about these guys are dead ... still not evidence they existed.

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I don't think anyone ever claimed that Greek myths were eyewitness testimony to anything.

 

[Cecilie1200]

..I went to a catholic pre-seminary and they even said it is a book of stories--not facts/etc

Which is a problem with that seminary, not a universal view.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Was this before or after Noah somehow managed to collect two of every animal on the planet, put them on a boat, set sail?

You don't know where the story of Adam and Eve comes in relation to the story of Noah, and you still think you have something to say?

 

[JoeBlow]

You don't know where the story of Adam and Eve comes in relation to the story of Noah, and you still think you have something to say?

God wanted Adam to stay in homo heaven with him but Adam preferred to bang the chick and start a hetero species. After a while God couldn't stand all the heteros so he drowned them all and started again with inbreeding Noah's family.

 

[JoeBlow]

Which is a problem with that seminary, not a universal view.

The bible is a book of facts? WOW! I didn't think that people that ignorant still existed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

There were no original documents.

How does that work? "There have only ever been copies, not anything that was copied." Huh?

 

[surada]

Which is a problem with that seminary, not a universal view.

The Bible is literature not history... So in fact it is stories.

 

[Cecilie1200]

God wanted Adam to stay in homo heaven with him but Adam preferred to bang the chick and start a hetero species. After a while God couldn't stand all the heteros so he drowned them all and started again with inbreeding Noah's family.

Shoo, Fido! Go lick your balls in the corner!

Damn yappy dogs.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The bible is a book of facts? WOW! I didn't think that people that ignorant still existed.

Coming from a guy who thinks, "I'll sexually harass this girl to try to make her stop arguing with me", that's not impressive.

 

[JoeBlow]

Shoo, Fido! Go lick your balls in the corner!

Damn yappy dogs.

We all noticed that you couldn't challenge what I said. Jesus was also a homo and I can prove it.

 

[surada]

Which is a problem with that seminary, not a universal view.

The fundamentalist view of scripture is fairly new .. the notion the Bible is factual was a reaction to science and modernity around 1916.