Zone1 How do we know if the Bible is true?

[surada]

I do not trash anyone for their medical conditions---I recognize the fact that such issues have an effect on the psychology of those
afflicted

You think not having children is a medical condition?

oh How do you take that BS?

That it just means a big number.

 

[surada]

that's nice----it is consistent with the prophesy of Isaiah.
I hope it HAPPENS

Isaiah 31 picks up where we left off in chapter 30. The nation of Judah is facing the inevitable invasion from the mighty Assyrian army.

There were some counselors in King Hezekiah’s court who were trying to get Hezekiah to get help from the Egyptians. They had already sent an entourage of camels bearing gifts to beg help from the Egyptians. Yet God was desiring that the people would look to Him for help.

 

[Woodznutz]

But it is the people of the Middle East who have been most affected by an expansionist Israel emboldened by the unswerving allegiance of Christian Zionists led to believe that Scofield’s words are God’s will. Not least among the many victims of the Scofield Bible are 5 million Palestinian refugees whose right to return is fervently opposed by America’s Zionized Christians.

Thanks to their indoctrination by Scofield’s unholy book, they believe that Palestine belongs not to the Palestinians—many of whom are fellow Christians—but exclusively to “God’s chosen people.”

God returned a small remnant of Jews to the Holy Land for the purpose of preparing the world for the return of Christ to that location. Their presence there would bring trouble to all the descendants of Israel as well as most of the gentile world. Returning to Palestine wasn't a blessing, but another curse on the Jews

 

[irosie91]

Isaiah 31 picks up where we left off in chapter 30. The nation of Judah is facing the inevitable invasion from the mighty Assyrian army.

There were some counselors in King Hezekiah’s court who were trying to get Hezekiah to get help from the Egyptians. They had already sent an entourage of camels bearing gifts to beg help from the Egyptians. Yet God was desiring that the people would look to Him for help.

Yeah? SO?

 

[surada]

God returned a small remnant of Jews to the Holy Land for the purpose of preparing the world for the return of Christ to that location. Their presence there would bring trouble to all the descendants of Israel as well as most of the gentile world. Returning to Palestine wasn't a blessing, but another curse on the Jews

Who told you that?

 

[surada]

Yeah? SO?

Isaiah still has nothing to do with Jesus.

 

[Woodznutz]

Who told you that?

I read it in the Bible.

 

[task0778]

How do we know if the Bible is true?​

We don't. Some people will swear up and down that the Bible is God's word, but some scholars and historians will tell you that the Bible is a compendium of stories, songs, letters, and writings by different people at different times and places and also in different languages or dialects. It has been passed down from generation to generation by word of mouth, copied and translated; who knows what the original source actually said? At the Council of Nicea in around 325 AD, the current Bible was created; some writings were kept and some discarded according to the wishes of the Roman emperor Constantine, so there could be some elements of politics involved. Who is to say that the biblical sources involved were not altered?

Which isn't to say that the Bible isn't actually true, but I think there is room for doubt. Some of it appears to be quite far-fetched, but in any event it is up to each individual to decide for themselves.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Most of the tribal descendants of Israel are alive and well. They just aren't identifiable as "tribes" or as "Israelites". They are the nations that are bearing the fruits of God's spirit, the Christian west.

I used to think so, and hoped that God would graft the USA into the Israeli line, the way He grafted Gentiles into the Jewish line, because we have treated the Jews better than most countries and have given them a safe sanctuary.
But, Christ is going to judge the nations based on their treatment of the Jews, and we are turning against them. We are going to insist they give up Israeli land, and that is really going to piss God off. And fulfills end time prophesy that all nations will turn against Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Who told you that?

in accordance with the very sublime book "GENESIS" ---man is
blessed with his OWN DISCERNMENT---you wouldn't understand
the concept is not consistent with ISLAM

 

[irosie91]

Isaiah still has nothing to do with Jesus.

Oh----ok did Jesus reject Isaiah? I missed that part

 

[The Irish Ram]

So you take that literally too.

Yes, there is no reason not to.

 

[surada]

in accordance with the very sublime book "GENESIS" ---man is
blessed with his OWN DISCERNMENT---you wouldn't understand
the concept is not consistent with ISLAM

"God returned a small remnant of Jews to the Holy Land for the purpose of preparing the world for the return of Christ to that location. Their presence there would bring trouble to all the descendants of Israel as well as most of the gentile world. Returning to Palestine wasn't a blessing..."

What does that have to do with Genesis or Islam?

 

[irosie91]

"God returned a small remnant of Jews to the Holy Land for the purpose of preparing the world for the return of Christ to that location. Their presence there would bring trouble to all the descendants of Israel as well as most of the gentile world. Returning to Palestine wasn't a blessing..."

What does that have to do with Genesis or Islam?

Oh---is that what your Imam told you? THAT ---and bringing a whole bunch of jews to "palestine" will make it easy for the glorious minions of the rapist of Mecca to----RAPE MASSIVELY
AGAIN? very inspiring-----better than MIDNITE MASS

 

[surada]

Oh---is that what your Imam told you? THAT ---and bringing a whole bunch of jews to "palestine" will make it easy for the glorious minions of the rapist of Mecca to----RAPE MASSIVELY
AGAIN? very inspiring-----better than MIDNITE MASS

Woodznutz

That's the post you responded to. See post #85 by woodsnutz.

"Oh---is that what your Imam told you? THAT ---and bringing a whole bunch of jews to "palestine" will make it easy for the glorious minions of the rapist of Mecca to----RAPE MASSIVELY
AGAIN? very inspiring-----better than MIDNITE MASS"

Woodznutz, can you explain it to Rosie91?

 

[surada]

I used to think so, and hoped that God would graft the USA into the Israeli line, the way He grafted Gentiles into the Jewish line, because we have treated the Jews better than most countries and have given them a safe sanctuary.
But, Christ is going to judge the nations based on their treatment of the Jews, and we are turning against them. We are going to insist they give up Israeli land, and that is really going to piss God off. And fulfills end time prophesy that all nations will turn against Israel.

They did turn against Israel. Garrisons from all over the Roman empire gathered at the Plain of Megiddo to fight under Vespasian and Titus against the Jews in 66 AD.

 

[irosie91]

They did turn against Israel. Garrisons from all over the Roman empire gathered at the Plain of Megiddo to fight under Vespasian and Titus against the Jews in 66 AD.

ROFLMAO----yes to YOU---Rome was ALL THE WORLD in all its filth----gladiator circuses ----Lions eating people---all so that the "VESTAL VIRGINS" could "get off" ----and the CONSTANTINE POS--who invented the INQUSITION over which you and yours still GET OFF-----and its child----the stink of the ANGLICAN "church"---
the only questionable positive being OLIVER CROMWELL---who murdered priests and nuns for your glory and for the glory of SAINT HENRY----and on and on to your NABI--ADOLF

 

[The Irish Ram]

They did turn against Israel. Garrisons from all over the Roman empire gathered at the Plain of Megiddo to fight under Vespasian and Titus against the Jews in 66 AD.

I get that, but, the rest of the things Jesus said was also going to happen simultaneously did not happen then. They are now, though...

 

[surada]

ROFLMAO----yes to YOU---Rome was ALL THE WORLD in all its filth----gladiator circuses ----Lions eating people---all so that the "VESTAL VIRGINS" could "get off" ----and the CONSTANTINE POS--who invented the INQUSITION over which you and yours still GET OFF-----and its child----the stink of the ANGLICAN "church"---
the only questionable positive being OLIVER CROMWELL---who murdered priests and nuns for your glory and for the glory of SAINT HENRY----and on and on to your NABI--ADOLF

The Romans also occupied Israel. .. so did the Greeks, Babylonians, Egyptians, Assyrians, etc.

 

[surada]

I get that, but, the rest of the things Jesus said was also going to happen simultaneously did not happen then. They are now, though...

Revelation and Daniel were about the 1st century...and a hundred years earlier, not the 21st century.