The Basic Folly of Protestantism

[BS Filter]

Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child has always had a distinct meaning

Beat your child to keep him straight

No preacher has ever corrected parents with your interpretation of a rod just being “guidance” to your children

For you to say "No preacher has ever corrected parents with your interpretation of a rod just being “guidance” to your children" is astounding arrogance and ignorance. You have no idea what every Christian preacher has ever said.

 

[rightwinger]

It doesn't say "beat the kid". Merriweather is correct.

really?

What do parents do with a Rod?

 

[rightwinger]

For you to say "No preacher has ever corrected parents with your interpretation of a rod just being “guidance” to your children" is astounding arrogance and ignorance. You have no idea what every Christian preacher has ever said.

Parents were urged to use the Rod (Beating) to keep their children from being spoiled

It was nonsectarian society that passed laws against child abused

 

[BS Filter]

really?

What do parents do with a

really?

What do parents do with a Rod?

I see you're going to do your usual thing until you embarrass yourself. Where does it say that the Rod is used to beat a child?

 

[there4eyeM]

The Bible is condoned by God

That would appear to be what the Bible says. If you don't believe the Bible, why believe what it says about "God"?

 

[rightwinger]

I see you're going to do your usual thing until you embarrass yourself. Where does it say that the Rod is used to beat a child?

It was interpreted that way for a thousand years

 

[BS Filter]

It was interpreted that way for a thousand years

Nope.

 

[there4eyeM]

Those who questioned the direction of the Roman Church did Christianity the biggest favor since the resurrection. The Vaudois who had the first vulgate Bible translated pioneered the renewal of faith in Jesus. The French state and the Roman Church rewarded them with massacre and destruction. Thus, the 'basic', first "folly" of protesting against the abuses of the dominant theological interpretation of Christianity was thinking one could dissent without being raped, burned and pillaged.

 

[SweetSue92]

United Methodist bishops acknowledge breakup is imminent

The United Methodist Church’s Council of Bishops, ending a five-day meeting Friday, acknowledged the inevitable breakup of their denomination – a schism that will widen this weekend with the launch of a global movement led by theologically conservative Methodists. The breakaway denomination...

www.yahoo.com

Here we have a major Christian denomination that believes that an essential matter of morals can be decided by popular vote. It is as absurd as Leftists claiming that science can be decided by popular vote.

One of the primary roles of a "Church" is to provide moral and theological guidance to its followers - hence the word, "followers." That guidance must be based on the fundamental texts. If you are a Christian, you believe (you MUST believe) that significant moral questions have right and wrong answers, and that those answers spring from the Bible. There is no question that the Bible condemns homosexual sodomy, but this Church (The Global Methodist Church) asserts and teaches that such behavior is morally neutral, and, in effect, morally equivalent to reproductive sexual intercourse.

Say what you will about the Catholic Church, it believes that the Holy Spirit guides the Church (as Christ promised She would), it seeks to discern the "right" answers to questions about faith and morality, and teaches them consistently - even when they are not popular. Protestantism appears to teach that we can all read the Bible and individually discern its meaning.

That makes no sense.

You are exactly right. And by the way. Believing that people are sinful does NOT mean that you hate them or do not tolerate them. If God felt that way--if Jesus felt that way--He would have never come to earth. Not one of us by those standards, not one, would Jesus ever tolerate.

But He did. Because it is possible to love and care AND call out sin. In fact those two very often go together quite well.

I have family in the UMC and they have known this is coming too. Their church will go conservative. Churches who do not have put popularity above Christ. And I don't say that because I "hate" homosexuals.

 

[SweetSue92]

The Christian Church has been wrong on many moral issues…

Slavery, womens role in society, the Nazi Holocaust

They are now wrong on Homosexuality

Huh. What does the Christian church say about a "woman's role in society"??

Do tell

 

[SweetSue92]

When it comes to morality, Christians have been wrong before

They used the Bible to support Slavery, Child Abuse, Wife Beating

They changed their views

They will do the same with homosexuality

Wow you're such a scholar here. Give us the verses that endorse wife beating. Not "use the Bible"--because that can be people twisting Scripture.

Example.

The Bible expressly calls homosexuality a sin.

Does it "endorse" beating your wife???

 

[SweetSue92]

No, it was not a requirement of being a Christian

But the Bible justified much of it

Beat your wife and kids?
The Bible says you can

Need a chapter and verse on that wife beating

Go at it RW

 

[SweetSue92]

Parents were urged to use the Rod (Beating) to keep their children from being spoiled

It was nonsectarian society that passed laws against child abused

It is a proverb.

What do you know about the proverbs without looking it up??

How many times have you read that complete Book of the Bible??

(Me: half a dozen. At least.)

 

[DudleySmith]

Preachers led fight against slavery

MAny of them murdered by the locals when they took the anti-slavery crusade to Africa.

 

[DudleySmith]

The point is, not all did--and there were more who were against slavery, who spoke out against it, than those who took part in it.

In the Catholic Church, some Jesuit groups were slaveholders, both in Maryland and Louisiana. Yet the majority of Catholics were not.

Slavery wasn't popular with poor whites, the ones Democrats and globalists especially hate and want to mass murder these days.

 

[DudleySmith]

The only question to be answered in the abortion debate is this: Is it POSSIBLE that an embryo is human from conception? If it is POSSIBLE, then it is morally unacceptable to kill it. There IS NO MORAL ARGUMENT FOR ABORTION, and that includes rape, incest, and life of the mother. Killing is killing. It is THE SAME as infanticide.

^^^This. Thomas of Aquina resolved that definitively in a chapter of his Summa Theologica.

 

[Ringtone]

In regards to Homosexuality, the Christian Church missed the bus

Just like they did with Slavery

Nonsense. The abolition movement in the West was led by Christians.

 

[rightwinger]

Nonsense. The abolition movement in the West was led by Christians.

In the South, Ministers supported slavery
Most Northern Ministers were indifferent

 

[Ringtone]

United Methodist bishops acknowledge breakup is imminent

The United Methodist Church’s Council of Bishops, ending a five-day meeting Friday, acknowledged the inevitable breakup of their denomination – a schism that will widen this weekend with the launch of a global movement led by theologically conservative Methodists. The breakaway denomination...

www.yahoo.com

Here we have a major Christian denomination that believes that an essential matter of morals can be decided by popular vote. It is as absurd as Leftists claiming that science can be decided by popular vote.

One of the primary roles of a "Church" is to provide moral and theological guidance to its followers - hence the word, "followers." That guidance must be based on the fundamental texts. If you are a Christian, you believe (you MUST believe) that significant moral questions have right and wrong answers, and that those answers spring from the Bible. There is no question that the Bible condemns homosexual sodomy, but this Church (The Global Methodist Church) asserts and teaches that such behavior is morally neutral, and, in effect, morally equivalent to reproductive sexual intercourse.

Say what you will about the Catholic Church, it believes that the Holy Spirit guides the Church (as Christ promised She would), it seeks to discern the "right" answers to questions about faith and morality, and teaches them consistently - even when they are not popular. Protestantism appears to teach that we can all read the Bible and individually discern its meaning.

That makes no sense.

Your assessment of the dispute is nonsensical. It is the Global Methodist Church that upholds biblical orthodoxy. It's breaking off relations with the leftist apostates of the original UMC because they refuse to abide by the biblical view of human sexuality.

 

[Ringtone]

In the South, Ministers supported slavery
Most Northern Ministers were indifferent

You said the "Christian Church," whatever that means to your mind, failed. False. The Bible holds that chattel slavery is contrary to God's will, and the followers of biblical orthodoxy prevailed in the end in the Western world.