The Basic Folly of Protestantism

[BS Filter]

Some did
Preachers in the South told Slaves that God wanted them in servitude and read Bible verses telling slaves how to act towards their masters

Oh, so the slaves went to church with their masters. Cool. Didn't know that. Thanks.

 

[rightwinger]

Oh, so the slaves went to church with their masters. Cool. Didn't know that. Thanks.

Of course not
They had special services to teach Christianity to slaves
Services targeted to enforcing slavery

 

[Meriweather]

Some did
Preachers in the South told Slaves that God wanted them in servitude and read Bible verses telling slaves how to act towards their masters

The point is, not all did--and there were more who were against slavery, who spoke out against it, than those who took part in it.

In the Catholic Church, some Jesuit groups were slaveholders, both in Maryland and Louisiana. Yet the majority of Catholics were not.

 

[BS Filter]

If the bible is the word of God then the priest acts as a filter between the word and the people.
They arent needed .

Correct. The New Testament says every believer can pray to God, ask forgiveness, and be cleansed, all without anyone else interceeding because Jesus is our Priest.

 

[there4eyeM]

The major error of Protestantism has been adopting too much of the same attitudes as the"Catholic" Greek and Roman churches.

 

[rightwinger]

The point is, not all did--and there were more who were against slavery, who spoke out against it, than those who took part in it.

In the Catholic Church, some Jesuit groups were slaveholders, both in Maryland and Louisiana. Yet the majority of Catholics were not.

Quakers were the only ones intolerant of slavery
Southern Baptists rigidly supported

Individual preachers in the North were abolitionists.
Most looked the other way

 

[BS Filter]

Quakers were the only ones intolerant of slavery
Southern Baptists rigidly supported

Individual preachers in the North were abolitionists.
Most looked the other way

Even the Supreme Court supported slavery.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Correct. The New Testament says every believer can pray to God, ask forgiveness, and be cleansed, all without anyone else interceeding because Jesus is our Priest.

However, Paul wrote that we are not to forsake the regular gathering as some tend to do. Weekly corporate worship is also vital to the Christian in the areas of fellowship, edification, and preaching of the Word.

 

[rightwinger]

When it comes to morality, Christians have been wrong before

They used the Bible to support Slavery, Child Abuse, Wife Beating

They changed their views

They will do the same with homosexuality

 

[BS Filter]

When it comes to morality, Christians have been wrong before

They used the Bible to support Slavery, Child Abuse, Wife Beating

They changed their views

They will do the same with homosexuality

You make a huge mistake by lumping sin as somehow a church tenet. Slavery, child abuse and wife beating were never tenets of the Church. Just because some Christiansd did it doesn't mean it was a church tenet.

 

[rightwinger]

Slavery, child abuse and wife beating were never tenets of the Church.

All had Bible verses defending the practice
Just like you point to the Bible condemning homosexuality, there are verses defending slavery, wife beating and child abuse

 

[Polishprince]

When it comes to morality, Christians have been wrong before

They used the Bible to support Slavery, Child Abuse, Wife Beating

They changed their views

They will do the same with homosexuality

The Radical Episcopalianists and their ultraliberal allies might well change their pro-homo attitudes as well.

Most people oppose being slaves,much like they oppose taking it in their caboose.

 

[there4eyeM]

People often confuse what those who refer to themselves as "Christian" do as representing Christianity. Following Jesus is one thing. It is personal, intimate, unique to each individual. Sharing and participating in churches may be something one finds re-enforcing, but it is not necessary.

 

[BS Filter]

All had Bible verses defending the practice
Just like you point to the Bible condemning homosexuality, there are verses defending slavery, wife beating and child abuse

So? People do a lot of crazy stuff. That doesn't mean it's condoned by God.

 

[Meriweather]

Most looked the other way

What are you doing in every hot spot on this planet? Looking the other way?

Isn't it more accurate that other things then, just like they are now, were also requiring immediate attention? At the height of Southern slavery, eighty percent of the South's population did not own slaves.

Marcel Proust once noted that the remembrance of the past is not necessarily the remembrance of how it was.

I think abortion will one day go the way of slavery. I will also bet when that day comes, someone like you will say, "Catholics had abortions." Just like if that person were here today, he would be criticizing the Church for being against abortion.

 

[Polishprince]

What Libs don't realize on this- or maybe they do- is that homosexuality is repulsive to most people and they won't voluntarily go to a church where its featured much less bring their children.

This is why pro-LGBTQ sects like the UMC, UCC and Radical Episcopalianists have been losing member for decades.

Even the Gay Community knows they don't need to pay a priest to engage in their behavior.

 

[Meriweather]

most people and they won't voluntarily go to a church where its featured much less bring their children.

Anything that distracts from the worship of God or a community that sets aside time to place God and His ways foremost is going to be disillusioning to others. Most people of God do not attend church to gain approval or support of their own behavior, let alone to support and approve the behavior of others.

 

[DGS49]

To speak of "slavery" as though it were a constant, static institution with no variation is simply stupid. Slavery has existed in virtually all societies in one form or another. The British and Americans were the first (and probably) only cultures to declare that slavery was a moral abomination and, at great cost, abolished it. And as I recall, neither the Americans nor the British castrated their male slaves, as the Muslims did.

Similarly, to claim that the Catholic Church sanctioned American slavery is simply stupid. Not many Catholics in the slave-holding states, and those that were there had no influence, and likely no slaves.

No serious student of the Bible asserts that homosexual sodomy is morally acceptable. (Homosexuality - the attraction to others of the same sex - is morally neutral, as is the attraction of a married man to a woman not his wife). For a Church to ordain an open homosexual is theologically preposterous.

The only question to be answered in the abortion debate is this: Is it POSSIBLE that an embryo is human from conception? If it is POSSIBLE, then it is morally unacceptable to kill it. There IS NO MORAL ARGUMENT FOR ABORTION, and that includes rape, incest, and life of the mother. Killing is killing. It is THE SAME as infanticide.

As for disciplining children, the Torah states that a disobedient son should be stoned to death. Does that count as "corporal punishment"? But of course, there is no record of any child being so disciplined.

 

[jwoodie]

Say what you will about the Catholic Church, it believes that the Holy Spirit guides the Church (as Christ promised She would), it seeks to discern the "right" answers to questions about faith and morality, and teaches them consistently - even when they are not popular. Protestantism appears to teach that we can all read the Bible and individually discern its meaning.

I think that "Protestantism" is an outdated term relating to Martin Luther and the Gutenberg Bible. After all, there are several Orthodox Churches officially recognized by the Roman Catholic Church that have varying beliefs about dogma and rituals. However, all of these churches share the concept of a single human representative of God who will instruct others as to what they should believe and the consequences if they don't.

On the other hands, modern "Christian" churches tend to independent operations with a laissez-faire attitude towards biblical interpretation. This has led to infiltration by people who use their religious affiliation as both a smokescreen and a tool for promoting their personal social agendas.

I think that the current Pope may be a closet Christian.

 

[jwoodie]

[1] The Christian Church has been wrong on many moral issues…

[2] Slavery, womens role in society, the Nazi Holocaust

[3] They are now wrong on Homosexuality

[1] Your obsessive hatred for the Christian Church is duly noted. Do you apply this hatred towards other religions as well?

[2] These issues changed because of the Industrial Revolution. And which Christian Church approved of the Nazi Holocaust?

[3] Anal sexual intercourse has been a known health hazard for thousands of years. Do you believe that has changed?