Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems TWICE

[frigidweirdo]

The people in Kerr County made the call not to pay for an early warning system...not the State of Texas. Your cited article said that Hay's County DID install an early warning system at a cost of two million, $500,000 of which was paid for by a grant from the State. That decision is on the people in Kerr...not on the State leaders.

Well, I'd suggest it's both.

The state level is probably where early warning systems should be operated. That they couldn't be bothered, doesn't mean it's not their fault.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Texas has proven it is terrible at emergency management. 2021 Winter Storm power outage ring any bells?

No to abortion
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No to this
No to that

and Hell No to a $1M grant that could have avoided this tragedy

 

[Man With A Plan]

Lets forget the deaths, the floods, the politics etc...

Camp Mystic is 18 miles from Kerrville acccording to Google. The folks at the camp (and probably at hundreds if not thousands of other camps tonight) that has all these kids there, had--APPARENTLY--I’M NOT SURE--nobody who stayed up all night just to make sure things are okay?

Looking back this seems like it was pretty negligent just on it’s surface. I never went to camp...we were light years away from being able to afford to even think about sending anyone to camp. But if you were to have asked me if there is a requirement that someone be on watch the entire time, I would have said yes.

Yep...for 50+ summers, nothing will happen and the organizers will hae to pay someone to essentially do nothing other than stay awake. Tough.

This is what Republicans call “needless regulations”.

I've looked at topographic maps of the area and one could make the case that it would have been prudent to move the younger campers from their cabins in a low lying area to the area called "Senior Hill" which housed older girls at a higher elevation. That being said I don't think anyone foresaw flood waters that high and rising that fast. A 25 foot rise in less than an hour wasn't something that was anticipated.

 

[justoffal]

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas killed at least 95 people, including 27 girls and counselors from a beloved summer camp, the state’s Division of Emergency Management denied requests from the county where the camp is held for a $1 million grant to improve its flood warning system.

Summer camps were top of mind during county leaders’ discussions of the project, meeting minutes show. Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser envisioned designating point people at each camp who would monitor a website and alert camp counselors and attendees if evacuation was needed.

The Division of Emergency Management did not answer USA TODAY's specific questions about why the county's applications were rejected.

Is that MAGA I smell in the air? Now, Texas is talking about duplicating DOGE at the state level. That may have to wait until most of the law suits that will be filed against the great MAGA state of Texas. Parents are morning the loss of their children. This is beyond sad.

What good are warning systems that people don't listen to them? You endlessly irrelevant dumbass!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Well, I'd suggest it's both.

The state level is probably where early warning systems should be operated. That they couldn't be bothered, doesn't mean it's not their fault.

It appears that in Texas that call is made at the County level. It's hard to fault the State when a wealthy County declines to pay for something that one of their fellow Counties did. As I said before...that's on the people that live in Kerr County.

 

[SweetTea]

You think MAGA would not be screaming about Biden if this happened on his watch?

Something similar did happen in 2021 killing 20+ in TN. The NWS missed the forecast and was late with their warning. Where were you then?

 

[candycorn]

I've looked at topographic maps of the area and one could make the case that it would have been prudent to move the younger campers from their cabins in a low lying area to the area called "Senior Hill" which housed older girls at a higher elevation. That being said I don't think anyone foresaw flood waters that high and rising that fast. A 25 foot rise in less than an hour wasn't something that was anticipated.

They’ve been camping there for years if not decades.

I just can’t believe that there wasn’t a camp official whose job it was to be on watch 24/7. It will likely come out at some point that someone was supposed to be awake who wasn’t. Otherwise this seems incredibly negligent on the part of the camp officials simply for the fact that there are hundreds of kids at this camp...flooding or no flooding.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It appears that in Texas that call is made at the County level. It's hard to fault the State when a wealthy County declines to pay for something that one of their fellow Counties did. As I said before...that's on the people that live in Kerr County.

It seems that in Texas, passing the buck is a political sport.

It's very easy to fault the state when counties are looking at whether to put such localized systems in place. You need leadership. Instead Texas has lots of politicians who are just in it for the money, and they're very good at covering their backs.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It seems that in Texas, passing the buck is a political sport.

It's very easy to fault the state when counties are looking at whether to put such localized systems in place. You need leadership. Instead Texas has lots of politicians who are just in it for the money, and they're very good at covering their backs.

Texas believes in local government over State and Federal government. You may not agree with that sentiment but it's their choice.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It seems that in Texas, passing the buck is a political sport.

It's very easy to fault the state when counties are looking at whether to put such localized systems in place. You need leadership. Instead Texas has lots of politicians who are just in it for the money, and they're very good at covering their backs.

And with all due respect, Frigid? Texas isn't even in the same ballpark when it comes to politicians passing the buck! California is world class in the sport with New York not far behind!

 

[frigidweirdo]

Texas believes in local government over State and Federal government. You may not agree with that sentiment but it's their choice.

Yeah, it's their choice, and look what it got them.

People should be aware that this is happened because of how Texas, and other right wing religious states, do politics.

They should NOT hide behind "prayer".

 

[frigidweirdo]

And with all due respect, Frigid? Texas isn't even in the same ballpark when it comes to politicians passing the buck! California is world class in the sport with New York not far behind!

Well, I'd say this happens a lot in the US. The US has two party politics which is useless at dealing with things, because it stops voters from having oversight, and makes money the most important thing.

The rich don't want to spend money, so it doesn't get spent.

They are your overlords and your lives don't really matter.

 

[elektra]

Lol, you really don't know? tRump stole it just like he steals everything. He has never had an original idea in his life.

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[Cougarbear]

He didn’t mention Trump. Get some help.

MAGA is Trump. You need to get some help. Can't even morn for the loss of life. Instead, instant politicizing tragedy from you turds. Shameful, shameful, shameful.

 

[whitehall]

Who was president nearly a decade ago?

 

[justoffal]

It appears that in Texas that call is made at the County level. It's hard to fault the State when a wealthy County declines to pay for something that one of their fellow Counties did. As I said before...that's on the people that live in Kerr County.

There were at least two countywide warnings one 12 hours in advance and another one 3 hours in advance.

What good are warnings if people don't listen to them?

 

[JimH52]

Texas is literally known as "we don't like taxes" country.

They get what they pay for.

And to deal with the whole thing, they're all posting about how they're "praying" for the victims. They're praying just so they don't have to think about how not spending money on things led to these kids' deaths.

Sad but True

 

[JimH52]

Something similar did happen in 2021 killing 20+ in TN. The NWS missed the forecast and was late with their warning. Where were you then?

Watching another red state fail it's people.

 

[justoffal]

MAGA is Trump. You need to get some help. Can't even morn for the loss of life. Instead, instant politicizing tragedy from you turds. Shameful, shameful, shameful.

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Yeah, it's their choice, and look what it got them.

People should be aware that this is happened because of how Texas, and other right wing religious states, do politics.

They should NOT hide behind "prayer".

Texas is about 48% blue you moron....

Jo

 

[frigidweirdo]

They

Texas is about 48% blue you moron....

Jo

Ah, insults. Well done.