Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems TWICE

[Zincwarrior]

Republicans FUNDAMENTALLY do not believe in spending money on these sorts of preventative measures.

They consider it to be waste, fraud and abuse.

But alas, the results of that evil ideology are what's happening now.

I don't blame the Feds. I blame Abbott and the shitholes in the statehouse. More than 500 people have DIED under that fuckers watch.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas killed at least 95 people, including 27 girls and counselors from a beloved summer camp, the state’s Division of Emergency Management denied requests from the county where the camp is held for a $1 million grant to improve its flood warning system.

Summer camps were top of mind during county leaders’ discussions of the project, meeting minutes show. Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser envisioned designating point people at each camp who would monitor a website and alert camp counselors and attendees if evacuation was needed.

The Division of Emergency Management did not answer USA TODAY's specific questions about why the county's applications were rejected.

Is that MAGA I smell in the air? Now, Texas is talking about duplicating DOGE at the state level. That may have to wait until most of the law suits that will be filed against the great MAGA state of Texas. Parents are morning the loss of their children. This is beyond sad.

What you smell, Jim is your own pathetic desperation. What happened in Texas was a generational natural disaster. It has nothing to do with politics and your attempts to make it so are disgusting. You need to take stock of who you've become, my friend! It's not pretty...

 

[frigidweirdo]

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas killed at least 95 people, including 27 girls and counselors from a beloved summer camp, the state’s Division of Emergency Management denied requests from the county where the camp is held for a $1 million grant to improve its flood warning system.

Summer camps were top of mind during county leaders’ discussions of the project, meeting minutes show. Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser envisioned designating point people at each camp who would monitor a website and alert camp counselors and attendees if evacuation was needed.

The Division of Emergency Management did not answer USA TODAY's specific questions about why the county's applications were rejected.

Is that MAGA I smell in the air? Now, Texas is talking about duplicating DOGE at the state level. That may have to wait until most of the law suits that will be filed against the great MAGA state of Texas. Parents are morning the loss of their children. This is beyond sad.

Texas is literally known as "we don't like taxes" country.

They get what they pay for.

And to deal with the whole thing, they're all posting about how they're "praying" for the victims. They're praying just so they don't have to think about how not spending money on things led to these kids' deaths.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Texas county where campers died was denied money to boost warning systems

Twice, the Texas Division of Emergency Management turned down Kerr County's requests for money to improve flood warnings.

www.usatoday.com

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas killed at least 95 people, including 27 girls and counselors from a beloved summer camp, the state’s Division of Emergency Management denied requests from the county where the camp is held for a $1 million grant to improve its flood warning system.

Summer camps were top of mind during county leaders’ discussions of the project, meeting minutes show. Then-County Commissioner Tom Moser envisioned designating point people at each camp who would monitor a website and alert camp counselors and attendees if evacuation was needed.

The Division of Emergency Management did not answer USA TODAY's specific questions about why the county's applications were rejected.

Is that MAGA I smell in the air? Now, Texas is talking about duplicating DOGE at the state level. That may have to wait until most of the law suits that will be filed against the great MAGA state of Texas. Parents are morning the loss of their children. This is beyond sad.

Trump and his administration will deal with this tragedy just as they've dealt with all of the other things they've dealt with over the past six months. His Cabinet is made up of people who are problem solvers. They're not posers. They get the job done.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What you smell, Jim is your own pathetic desperation. What happened in Texas was a generational natural disaster. It has nothing to do with politics and your attempts to make it so are disgusting. You need to take stock of who you've become, my friend! It's not pretty...

Where were the sirens Abbot? Fake border spending cool. Keeping people from dying too much!

 

[frigidweirdo]

What you smell, Jim is your own pathetic desperation. What happened in Texas was a generational natural disaster. It has nothing to do with politics and your attempts to make it so are disgusting. You need to take stock of who you've become, my friend! It's not pretty...

WRONG.

This could have been avoided. Everyone knows that Texas is a state you go to in order to not pay much in taxes.

They didn't want to spend money on a warning system. This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last, not on this river, no in Texas.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Texas is literally known as "we don't like taxes" country.

They get what they pay for.

And to deal with the whole thing, they're all posting about how they're "praying" for the victims. They're praying just so they don't have to think about how not spending money on things led to these kids' deaths.

High taxes would have prevented a natural disaster, Frigid? Interesting... Care to explain why high taxes in California didn't keep half of LA from burning to the ground?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Where were the sirens Abbot? Fake border spending cool. Keeping people from dying too much!

Our border is secure now. Fake spending? That was what was going on during the Biden Administration, Zinc! They said they were spending money to secure the border and they lied through their teeth! Trump and his team will fix THIS crisis just as they've methodically fixed one crisis after another from the complete dumpster fire that was Biden's four years!

 

[Tyrion234]

You are truly a pig.

Because I said what your stance is on the matter? I think you might want to check a mirror ***** boy

 

[OODA_Loop]

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas killed at least 95 people, including 27 girls and counselors from a beloved summer camp, the state’s Division of Emergency Management denied requests from the county where the camp is held for a $1 million grant to improve its flood warning system.

10 years ago they asked for money to improve their warning system ?

 

[Tyrion234]

WRONG.

This could have been avoided. Everyone knows that Texas is a state you go to in order to not pay much in taxes.

They didn't want to spend money on a warning system. This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last, not on this river, no in Texas.

How much did the camp cost for the kids? You’re trying to say these people need $ to keep their kids safe? Are you that ******* retarded?

 

[frigidweirdo]

High taxes would have prevented a natural disaster, Frigid? Interesting... Care to explain why high taxes in California didn't keep half of LA from burning to the ground?

Define "disaster" here.

The money wouldn't have stopped the flooding, but it would have meant when that flash flood happened, nobody would have been in that camp.

 

[Tyrion234]

Define "disaster" here.

The money wouldn't have stopped the flooding, but it would have meant when that flash flood happened, nobody would have been in that camp.

Please explain…..

 

[Man With A Plan]

Define "disaster" here.

The money wouldn't have stopped the flooding, but it would have meant when that flash flood happened, nobody would have been in that camp.

You think an alarm at 3 AM would have gotten over 800 up and out of the area before that 25 foot wall of water arrived? Man, those camp counselors must be the most organized people on the planet, Frigid! Do I think an alarm would have saved lives? Yes. For those who reacted fast enough. Experience tells me people seldom do react that fast. Thinking that you could empty that camp that fast is a fantasy.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Define "disaster" here.

The money wouldn't have stopped the flooding, but it would have meant when that flash flood happened, nobody would have been in that camp.

And I noticed that you totally ducked the question why high taxes didn't save LA! Don't have a reply...do you?

 

[Darkwind]

Define "disaster" here.

The money wouldn't have stopped the flooding, but it would have meant when that flash flood happened, nobody would have been in that camp.

That is an outright lie and can be proven by the simple FACT that the warning were issued, in a timely manner.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Nearly a decade before catastrophic flooding in south Texas

Fool

 

[frigidweirdo]

You think an alarm at 3 AM would have gotten over 800 up and out of the area before that 25 foot wall of water arrived? Man, those camp counselors must be the most organized people on the planet, Frigid! Do I think an alarm would have saved lives? Yes. For those who reacted fast enough. Experience tells me people seldom do react that fast. Thinking that you could empty that camp that fast is a fantasy.

Well, let's look.

July 2025 Central Texas floods - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

National Weather Service shares timeline of alerts ahead of catastrophic Texas flooding

NWS says Flash Flood Warnings were issued on July 3 and early July 4 in Central Texas, giving more than three hours of warning.

www.nbcdfw.com

"At 1:18 pm CDT on July 3, 2025, the National Weather Service office in San Antonio, Texas, issued a flood watch for Kerr County and other areas that would later be impacted by severe flooding."

They said perhaps 1-3 inches with 5-7 inches in some places.

At this point the camp should have been on some kind of alert. You're in a place that's had flash floods before, you need the camp contacted, you need people aware, you need them ready to move at short notice.

"On July 3 at 6:10 pm CDT, the Weather Prediction Center branch of the National Weather Service issued a Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion citing that "areas of flash flooding will be likely across central TX overnight with very heavy rainfall expected. Hourly rainfall in excess of 2 to 3 inches (51–76 mm) seems reasonable given the environment and localized 6-hr totals over 6 inches (150 mm) will be possible","

At this point the camp should definitely have been aware and should probably have been preparing to get out.

"The National Water Center Area Hydrologic Discussion (AHD) #144 at issued 6:22 PM CDT on 7/3/2025 messaged locally considerable flood wording for areas north and west of San Antonio, including the city of Kerrville."

At this point, they should have been got out, no matter what. There was a flood warning for Kerrville. The camp should have been told, informed of the danger and advised to move.

"The first Flash Flood Warning for the event was issued at 11:41 PM CDT Thursday for Bandera County."

Bandera county is just south of Kerrville.

"At 1:14 AM CDT Friday: Flash Flood Warning with a considerable tag was issued for Bandera and Kerr Counties. Flash Flood Warnings with the Impact-Based Warning tags “Considerable” or “Catastrophic” denote high-damage threats and will automatically trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, ensuring only the most life-threatening flash flood events prompt urgent public notifications. All alerts are also sent out over NOAA Weather Radio."

At this point someone should have been sent to the camp and forced everyone out.

That was HOURS before.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And I noticed that you totally ducked the question why high taxes didn't save LA! Don't have a reply...do you?

I answered it. Would you like me to write it in a manner so that an elementary school student would be able to understand it?

 

[Man With A Plan]

I answered it. Would you like me to write it in a manner so that an elementary school student would be able to understand it?

Yes, Frigid I would, since you didn't answer it.