ClaireH
Diamond Member
We'd be on the same page about the risk factors of exposure from others who are not going to be vaccinated, IF we were talking about polio or.... I'll go as far to include any other respiratory illness where the odds of death were more severe than flu viruses (see graph in link below). The worst age group to become infected is 85+, however this group is highly understudied and grouped together with people 65 and over, and another study (Lancet Infectious Disease) groups this age group in the 60+crowd. That is misleading and it appears this deception is intentional. Unless you can provide explanation, it's a quandary.Years ago there was a quote going around that lost a bit of its flair but still holds weight, and wishing bad things on others (death?) well...if you are bold (not the best word but I'll be nice here) enough to type that out on a public message board to gain anything from it, you are a sad case of a human being if you really do wish that. But no worries, you're not alone. Just read other comments within this thread...you seem to share that wish of death for others who do not live life as you life yours. Thank God for normal people who do not hope for others to die.Many people misunderstand Darwinism and his theory of natural selection which was later described as survival of the fittest.
An oversimplification of the theory is that people who are more physically fit and more intelligent, as well as more adaptable to their environment are also more likely to survive and pass on their genes to subsequent generations where as the "less fit" are less likely to do so.
Why do I bring this up? It's because I read the following article today.
(CNN)With a majority of adult Americans now at least partially vaccinated against coronavirus, roughly a quarter of adults say they will not try to get the shot, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS. That vaccine-hesitant 26% is much more willing to return to regular activity, far less confident in the government health officials overseeing vaccine rollouts, and opposed to vaccine requirements for everyday activities.
Overall, the poll seems to point to a country on the road to normalcy, with about 7 in 10 having gotten a vaccine or planning to do so and two-thirds comfortable returning to their regular routines. But there are sharp divisions by vaccine willingness over the role vaccines might play in a return to pre-pandemic life.
In the poll, 55% of adults say they have received at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, while 45% have not -- which matches with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's statistics on vaccine distribution. Those who have not yet received a dose at this point are more likely to say that they will not try to get one than that they will seek it out. All told, 26% of adults say they will not try to get a coronavirus vaccine, about the same as those who said so in March, while 16% say they haven't yet gotten one but will do so.
Republicans remain the group most likely to say that they will not try to get a vaccine. Almost half of Republicans, 44%, feel that way, compared with 28% of independents and 8% of Democrats.
CNN Poll: About a quarter of adults say they won't try to get a Covid-19 vaccine - CNNPolitics
In my opinion, every single one of the 26% of adults who do not intend to get a vaccination deserve to get the virus.
Get a healthier outlook bud. The hateful discourse you hold in your head about people who don't live the way you do or make the same choices as you do is going to cut your life by about 10 years. Since you're male, you are already down a likely decade from women..so taking another ten years off of that isn't wise. You're choice of course.
I don't wish death on anyone. But guess what? Death comes to us all. I simply take exception to people who endanger everyone else in their orbit due to pure selfishness and stupidity.
The way I look at it metaphorically is this way: If I was a fireman, please don't ask me to run into an arsonist's house to save him from his own proclivity to start fires. And to be clear, I'd rush in to save his wife and kids, but he shouldn't expect any extra effort on my part to pull him out of the flames at the possible expense of my own life.
Before you suggest I read pop psych articles to retreive my info, that's inaccurate. I subscribe to Sciencemag.org and keep as current as possible with latest studies that are released. I can find sources to support the info about 85 and up not being separated in the stats to show the age group most at risk. One study (Lancet Infectious Diseases) claims that people over the age of 60 have a 4.5 percent chance of death....nooo....that study did not separate the 85+ crowd. I sure don't claim to know the death rate, but these studies are bogus grouping all people ages 60 and up or 65 and up as having same risk.
12 things everyone needs to know about the coronavirus pandemic
How deadly is the coronavirus? How is it transmitted? And answers to more questions about the pandemic, explained.
www.vox.com
Related, do you know the risk factor of children of contracting the virus and spreading it? Reportedly, close to zero. Yet, states are fighting to decide whether to mandate masks at school. That is NUTS. Not just nuts, but very suspect as to why anyone would would to reduce a risk when there is no risk.
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