State challenging birthright citizenship order confident it can still win in court

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Sure, one is drop-dead gorgeous and the other a genius. Anyway, there is not way I'd take your word for that.

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The word of such left cultists is not worth anything! It's time they learned that.


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[meaner gene]

ONLY in their district.

A district judge in Washington has no power in Maine. That is not to say that Maine cannot ship the offender back to Washington, but that power is limiteid.

A DISTRICT JUDGE is by definition, limited to the district they rule in.

They have NO NATIONAL power. The SCOTUS agreed with that common-sense position.

Once more with gusto.
Even if they flee their district.

 

[JimH52]

The court pussied out on ruling on the 14th amendment

They chose to give Trump more presidential power
The power to ignore lower courts

We no longer have three equal branches of government. Congress is useless...they are a rubber stamp for the autocrat. And now the court system has no power to enforce laws and policies that are unconstitutional. Only the USSC can tell trump to stop. And most of them of maga.

 

[meaner gene]

Bullshit! States cannot grant citizenship.

Who granted George Washington citizenship?

(this is where your head explodes)

 

[Rawley]

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/supreme-court-decisions-06-27-25

One of the states challenging President Donald Trump’s bid to end birthright citizenship lamented the Supreme Court’s decision Friday that makes it harder to block government policies nationwide but nonetheless appeared confident that it could still prevail in stymying Trump’s effort.

New Jersey Democratic Attorney General Matthew Platkin, who was among several state attorneys general challenging Trump’s executive order, said in a statement that “we are glad the Court recognized that nationwide orders can be appropriate to protect the plaintiffs themselves from harm—which is true, and has always been true, in our case.”

“We are confident that his flagrantly unconstitutional order will remain enjoined by the courts. And in the meantime, our fight continues: we will keep challenging President Trump’s flagrantly unlawful order, which strips American babies of citizenship for the first time since the Civil War, and we look forward to a decision in the coming months that holds this disgraceful order unlawful for good,” he said.

While the Supreme Court’s conservative supermajority limited the power of plaintiffs to seek nationwide orders that temporarily halt the government from enforcing a policy, it left unresolved what will happen with Trump’s birthright citizenship order, sending a set of cases over it back to lower courts for further review. Those lower courts could halt the policy on a broad basis again through other legal mechanisms, like class action lawsuits.

While the magats crow and cheer, the question of birthright citizenship is still unresolved. What the order did is create chaos in lower courts. There is still no answer on trump's effort to limit birthright citizenship. Instead, the order appears to give the executive more latitude to implement it's agenda and less ability of lower courts to issue nationwide injunctions. The Repub Congress is an arm of maga and now the courts have been nearly neuters. The US is perilously close to becoming Hungary 2.0.

"President Trump’s flagrantly unlawful order, which strips American babies of citizenship"

Begs the question, doesn't it?

 

[rightwinger]

We no longer have three equal branches of government. Congress is useless...they are a rubber stamp for the autocrat. And now the court system has no power to enforce laws and policies that are unconstitutional. Only the USSC can tell trump to stop. And most of them of maga.

No Kings

The courts have ceded all power to the President

 

[JimH52]

Who granted George Washington citizenship?

(this is where your head explodes)

If ICE can find him, they will deport him...no warrant...no identification...masked faces.

 

[Meathead]

Who granted George Washington citizenship?

(this is where your head explodes)

When Washington was born there was no USA. This is where your skull implodes into the empty cavity in it.

 

[meaner gene]

If ICE can find him, they will deport him...no warrant...no identification...masked faces.

George Washington (1st president) was a citizen. (requirement to be president)
Tell meathead who granted George Washington his citizenship?

 

[meaner gene]

When Washington was born there was no USA. This is where your skull implodes into the empty cavity in it.

You said that states can't grant citizenship.

So who granted George Washington his citizenship, that was needed in order to be president.

 

[Meathead]

You said that states can't grant citizenship.

So who granted George Washington his citizenship, that was needed in order to be president.

He was the father of the country ffs!

 

[JimH52]

You said that states can't grant citizenship.

So who granted George Washington his citizenship, that was needed in order to be president.

From Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The Founders wanted to limit presidential office to "natural born" citizens (whatever that means -- it's never been tested in court) to avoid foreign influence in elections, or a foreign person becoming President. The 14th Amendment starts thusly:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

That text has generally been held to confer citizenship (both state and national) on anyone born in the United States, including its territories; also, people born outside the U.S. to citizen parents are considered citizens.

At the time the Constitution was written, this would also, of course, have excluded enslaved persons and Indigenous people from the office, but the Founders were less concerned about those people than they were of Europeans attempting to take control of the country.

What exactly is meant by a "natural born citizen" in this context is a fairly open question; there have been attempts to bring cases before the Supreme Court regarding this question, usually regarding candidates that have one parent born outside of the United States, but they have been dismissed for lack of standing. The 20-year rule unfortunately prohibits most discussion on that.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Makes no sense
A child is either a citizen or not

He can’t be a citizen in one state but illegal in a neighboring state

This only concerns equitable injunctions.

 

[JimH52]

For some reason, when I think of the viability of our country, the Simon and Garfunkel song, "Slip Sliding Away" comes to mind.

 

[Zincwarrior]

For some reason, when I think of the viability of our country, the Simon and Garfunkel song, "Slip Sliding Away" comes to mind.

It makes things more difficult to enjoin the executive, but not impossible, not by a long shot.

 

[meaner gene]

He was the father of the country ffs!

Who granted George Washington citizenship?

 

[Meathead]

For some reason, when I think of the viability of our country, the Simon and Garfunkel song, "Slip Sliding Away" comes to mind.

No Garfunkel there.

 

[Meathead]

Who granted George Washington citizenship?

The Constitution idiot.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Cool now do Obama's fake birth certificate...

 

[Zincwarrior]

And the great game immediately continues, using the class action route as noted in the decision:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5373544-birthright-citizenship-class-action-supreme-court/

A group of plaintiffs challenging President Trump’s birthright citizenship restrictions quickly made a new push to block it nationwide, following the Supreme Court’s decision Friday.

In a 6-3 ruling along ideological lines, the high court’s conservative majority curtailed federal judges’ ability to issue nationwide injunctions. But it left the door open for plaintiffs to try to seek broad relief by filing class action lawsuits.


Within hours, a group of plaintiffs suing in Maryland jumped on the suggestion, asking a district judge to issue a new ruling that applies to anyone designated as ineligible for birthright citizenship under Trump’s order.

“Without a class-wide injunction, Defendants will deny thousands of babies in the putative class their constitutional and statutory right to United States citizenship, as well as all of the rights and privileges that citizenship entails,” the motion reads.