Is it possible to get Americans to do difficult things?

berg80

Diamond Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2017
Messages
36,387
Reaction score
29,573
Points
2,820
I don't mean difficult in the way of national achievements like the moon landing. I mean something more substantive than that. If we unite behind a common purpose I still believe, despite some evidence to the contrary, we are capable of great things. More than just technological advancements. Things in need of being done to strengthen the country.

The capability isn't the obstacle, it's the uniting part. For example, we've known for some time the Social Security Fund needs to be bolstered. A number of solutions have been floated including this one.

AI Overview

Fixing the Social Security "donut hole"—the gap where earnings above a certain cap (\(\$184,500\) in 2026) are not taxed, while lower incomes are—is primarily proposed by reintroducing taxes on high earners. The most popular proposal involves applying the 6.2% payroll tax to earnings above \(\$400,000\), which could eliminate roughly 61%–66% of the long-range funding shortfall. [1, 2, 3]
Yet nothing gets done. It's only on the periphery of the national conversations we are having. The SS Fund being an aspect of a larger issue, the national debt. A daunting problem in need of shared sacrifice, cooperation, compromise, all the things that have become victims of partisan politics.

As U.S. Debt Hits a Worrying Milestone, Washington Barely Notices​

The U.S. government learned last week that it may have reached an unfortunate milestone: The size of its debt surpassed the nation’s total economic output.

It was a striking imbalance, according to early estimates, one that the country has experienced only in rare circumstances — briefly during the pandemic, and in the aftermath of World War II. But the development barely seemed to register in the nation’s capital, where few policymakers bothered to acknowledge the latest warning sign about the government’s poor fiscal health.

The root of the problem is well-documented and widely known. U.S. debt has soared in recent years because of a mismatch between federal spending and tax revenue, one complicated by a rapidly aging population, which has driven up costs across government.


One thing is clear. The DC tradition of finger pointing, accusing the other side of being the problem, isn't going to solve anything. So do Americans have the capacity to insist their elected representatives work together on the problem. Or has political division doomed us to the inevitability of further decline?
 
Americans took an experimental gene therapy shot.

That did not seem difficult.

People took THE TRUMP SHOT despite it not being SAFE NOR EFFECTIVE.

Everyone who got the TRUMP SHOT STILL GOT AND SPREAD COVID.
 
One thing is clear. The DC tradition of finger pointing, accusing the other side of being the problem, isn't going to solve anything. So do Americans have the capacity to insist their elected representatives work together on the problem. Or has political division doomed us to the inevitability of further decline?
The further we get away from demanding collaboration and innovation, and from holding our "leaders" to real standards and accountability, the worse this gets. We can't fix anything right now.
 
We are capable of a lot of great things, we just need the gumption and bravery to do it - which is sorely lacking this day and age.
How would we exercise this 'gumption and bravery'? All these phrases sound good but what would ordinary Americans do to get elected officials to work together?
 
Are these just arbitrary "great things" that we'll be doing?
 
I don't mean difficult in the way of national achievements like the moon landing. I mean something more substantive than that. If we unite behind a common purpose I still believe, despite some evidence to the contrary, we are capable of great things. More than just technological advancements. Things in need of being done to strengthen the country.

The capability isn't the obstacle, it's the uniting part. For example, we've known for some time the Social Security Fund needs to be bolstered. A number of solutions have been floated including this one.

AI Overview

Fixing the Social Security "donut hole"—the gap where earnings above a certain cap (\(\$184,500\) in 2026) are not taxed, while lower incomes are—is primarily proposed by reintroducing taxes on high earners. The most popular proposal involves applying the 6.2% payroll tax to earnings above \(\$400,000\), which could eliminate roughly 61%–66% of the long-range funding shortfall. [1, 2, 3]
Yet nothing gets done. It's only on the periphery of the national conversations we are having. The SS Fund being an aspect of a larger issue, the national debt. A daunting problem in need of shared sacrifice, cooperation, compromise, all the things that have become victims of partisan politics.

As U.S. Debt Hits a Worrying Milestone, Washington Barely Notices​

The U.S. government learned last week that it may have reached an unfortunate milestone: The size of its debt surpassed the nation’s total economic output.

It was a striking imbalance, according to early estimates, one that the country has experienced only in rare circumstances — briefly during the pandemic, and in the aftermath of World War II. But the development barely seemed to register in the nation’s capital, where few policymakers bothered to acknowledge the latest warning sign about the government’s poor fiscal health.

The root of the problem is well-documented and widely known. U.S. debt has soared in recent years because of a mismatch between federal spending and tax revenue, one complicated by a rapidly aging population, which has driven up costs across government.


One thing is clear. The DC tradition of finger pointing, accusing the other side of being the problem, isn't going to solve anything. So do Americans have the capacity to insist their elected representatives work together on the problem. Or has political division doomed us to the inevitability of further decline?

How about we start with your side stops trying to murder the president every few months?
 
Last edited:
I don't mean difficult in the way of national achievements like the moon landing. I mean something more substantive than that. If we unite behind a common purpose I still believe, despite some evidence to the contrary, we are capable of great things. More than just technological advancements. Things in need of being done to strengthen the country.

The capability isn't the obstacle, it's the uniting part. For example, we've known for some time the Social Security Fund needs to be bolstered. A number of solutions have been floated including this one.

AI Overview

Fixing the Social Security "donut hole"—the gap where earnings above a certain cap (\(\$184,500\) in 2026) are not taxed, while lower incomes are—is primarily proposed by reintroducing taxes on high earners. The most popular proposal involves applying the 6.2% payroll tax to earnings above \(\$400,000\), which could eliminate roughly 61%–66% of the long-range funding shortfall. [1, 2, 3]
Yet nothing gets done. It's only on the periphery of the national conversations we are having. The SS Fund being an aspect of a larger issue, the national debt. A daunting problem in need of shared sacrifice, cooperation, compromise, all the things that have become victims of partisan politics.

As U.S. Debt Hits a Worrying Milestone, Washington Barely Notices​

The U.S. government learned last week that it may have reached an unfortunate milestone: The size of its debt surpassed the nation’s total economic output.

It was a striking imbalance, according to early estimates, one that the country has experienced only in rare circumstances — briefly during the pandemic, and in the aftermath of World War II. But the development barely seemed to register in the nation’s capital, where few policymakers bothered to acknowledge the latest warning sign about the government’s poor fiscal health.

The root of the problem is well-documented and widely known. U.S. debt has soared in recent years because of a mismatch between federal spending and tax revenue, one complicated by a rapidly aging population, which has driven up costs across government.


One thing is clear. The DC tradition of finger pointing, accusing the other side of being the problem, isn't going to solve anything. So do Americans have the capacity to insist their elected representatives work together on the problem. Or has political division doomed us to the inevitability of further decline?
Geeze Berg. The Big Beautiful Bill added a simple work requirement in Medicaid for able bodied single folks between 18 and 64. This is one attempt at getting our debt under control.

But to hear your cult spin it, Republicans are strangling babies in the nursery at the hospital.
 
Americans took an experimental gene therapy shot.

That did not seem difficult.

People took THE TRUMP SHOT despite it not being SAFE NOR EFFECTIVE.

Everyone who got the TRUMP SHOT STILL GOT AND SPREAD COVID.
And magaturds bitched, whined and complained about vaccines, quarantines and masks up and even to this very day, dividing American society to it's breaking point based on their own entitlement over the well being of others. :rolleyes:
 
And magaturds bitched, whined and complained about vaccines, quarantines and masks up and even to this very day, dividing American society to it's breaking point based on their own entitlement over the well being of others. :rolleyes:

You need a few more Trump shots.
 
Geeze Berg. The Big Beautiful Bill added a simple work requirement in Medicaid for able bodied single folks between 18 and 64. This is one attempt at getting our debt under control.

But to hear your cult spin it, Republicans are strangling babies in the nursery at the hospital.
Saying that’s an attempt to “get our debt under control” is misleading.

The OBBBA adds trillions to the debt.
 
We are capable of a lot of great things, we just need the gumption and bravery to do it - which is sorely lacking this day and age.
We have people who are extremely dedicated to working toward a better society.

We also have lots of nutjobs impeding progress because of not enough of [insert ethnicity here] working in technological fields or excel in school. Therefore, the country must dumb down everyone to make those with very little representation in technological fields feel better. These nutjobs are Democrats.
 
It is easy to get dumb phucking commies to believe anything.

WHCD AND BUTLER WERE FAKE, 😂

JUST DUMB PHUCKS.
 
15th post
It is easy to get dumb phucking commies to believe anything.

WHCD AND BUTLER WERE FAKE, 😂

JUST DUMB PHUCKS.
Isn't that something? Democrats believe Crooks was a beyond expert sharp shooter with the ability to fire a gun from long distance and scrape Trump's ear.
 
I don't mean difficult in the way of national achievements like the moon landing. I mean something more substantive than that. If we unite behind a common purpose I still believe, despite some evidence to the contrary, we are capable of great things. More than just technological advancements. Things in need of being done to strengthen the country.

The capability isn't the obstacle, it's the uniting part. For example, we've known for some time the Social Security Fund needs to be bolstered. A number of solutions have been floated including this one.

AI Overview

Fixing the Social Security "donut hole"—the gap where earnings above a certain cap (\(\$184,500\) in 2026) are not taxed, while lower incomes are—is primarily proposed by reintroducing taxes on high earners. The most popular proposal involves applying the 6.2% payroll tax to earnings above \(\$400,000\), which could eliminate roughly 61%–66% of the long-range funding shortfall. [1, 2, 3]
Yet nothing gets done. It's only on the periphery of the national conversations we are having. The SS Fund being an aspect of a larger issue, the national debt. A daunting problem in need of shared sacrifice, cooperation, compromise, all the things that have become victims of partisan politics.

As U.S. Debt Hits a Worrying Milestone, Washington Barely Notices​

The U.S. government learned last week that it may have reached an unfortunate milestone: The size of its debt surpassed the nation’s total economic output.

It was a striking imbalance, according to early estimates, one that the country has experienced only in rare circumstances — briefly during the pandemic, and in the aftermath of World War II. But the development barely seemed to register in the nation’s capital, where few policymakers bothered to acknowledge the latest warning sign about the government’s poor fiscal health.

The root of the problem is well-documented and widely known. U.S. debt has soared in recent years because of a mismatch between federal spending and tax revenue, one complicated by a rapidly aging population, which has driven up costs across government.


One thing is clear. The DC tradition of finger pointing, accusing the other side of being the problem, isn't going to solve anything. So do Americans have the capacity to insist their elected representatives work together on the problem. Or has political division doomed us to the inevitability of further decline?
As long as the concept of a "Fake" democracy isn't abandoned - nothing will ever change in that matter.
 
Saying that’s an attempt to “get our debt under control” is misleading.

The OBBBA adds trillions to the debt.
The work requirement does not add a dime. Even you cult projects it will end up with 100s of billions in savings over ten years.
 
Isn't that something? Democrats believe Crooks was a beyond expert sharp shooter with the ability to fire a gun from long distance and scrape Trump's ear.
From 140 yards out, how much muzzle movement would equate to an inch away from Trump’s head?

Like a millimeter.

Some of them claim Trump hit himself with fake blood.

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THE JUSSIE SMOLLET ATTACK WAS REAL! 😂

They are just liars.
 
Back
Top Bottom