America cannot survive unlimited birthright citizenship

Poll: Majority Back Birthright Citizenship Rights​


If true, then America the Idiocracy truly deserves the global thrashing it's receiving. Our sworn enemies are and have been using that against us for a very long time. They are smart. America must be the Worlds only true Idiocracy.

Personally, I don't believe this for one second. The same people who overwhelmingly voted for Trump (most US citizens), would NOT approve of the madness of birthright citizenship.

I'm guessing that Newsmax, like every other "news" source, is beginning to carry the Swamp Flag with this kind of blatant propaganda.
 
Sure we can.
Just control the damn border.

Has NOTHING to do with border control.
Ther are programs in place today (in Democrat controlled areas), where China (and other hostile states) send late term pregnant women purely for the reason to drop their load on US soil to gain free US citizenship. WE CANNOT DO THAT ON THEIR SOIL.

Many of these spawn are groomed to gain high level positions and them use them to support our enemies.
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out. But somehow this Idiocracy can't.

If you're a Communist boot licker or just hate the USA then birthright citizenship is extremely appealing to you.
 

Are We Subjects or Citizens? Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution​

Apr 2026 ~~ By Edward J. Erler

It is broadly agreed by constitutional scholars that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to constitutionalize the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Many in Congress initially argued that the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865 granted citizenship and the rights and liberties attached to that status. Others argued that there should be explicit legislation, which resulted in the Civil Rights Act the following year. Still others thought the Civil Rights Act was insufficient because future majorities could repeal it. This concern became the impetus for the Fourteenth Amendment, which constitutionalized the Civil Rights Act.
The citizenship clause was a late addition to the Fourteenth Amendment. It is evident that the Joint Committee placed importance on the jurisdiction clause, which meant, at a minimum, that not all persons born in the U.S. were automatically citizens. Subject to the jurisdiction does not simply mean, as is commonly thought today, subject to American laws or American courts. It means owing exclusive political allegiance to the U.S. In sum, what we today call birthright citizenship is a legacy of feudalism that was decisively rejected as the ground of American citizenship by the Fourteenth Amendment and the Expatriation Act of 1868. It is absurd to believe that the Fourteenth Amendment confers the boon of American citizenship on the children of illegal aliens.
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Decline of Citizenship and of the Nation State
The same kind of confusion that has led us to accept birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens has led us to tolerate dual citizenship. We recall that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment specified that those who are naturalized must owe exclusive allegiance to the U.S. to be included within its jurisdiction. And the citizenship oath taken by new citizens today still requires a pledge of such allegiance. But in practice dual citizenship—and dual allegiance—is allowed. This is a sign of the decline of American citizenship and of America as a nation state.
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The doctrine of birthright citizenship and the acceptance of dual citizenship are signs that we in the U.S. are on the verge of reinstituting feudalism and replacing citizenship with the master-servant relationship. The continued vitality of the nation state and of constitutional government depends on the continued vitality of citizenship, which carries with it exclusive allegiance to what the Declaration of Independence calls a “separate and equal” nation. Unless we recover an understanding of the foundations of citizenship, we will find ourselves in a world where there are subjects but no citizens.


Commentary:
You have to consider the fact that the Fourteenth Amendment was written and passed by a select few politicians.
Congress was well aware and knew that the very concept of citizenship was unknown in British common law. Blackstone speaks only of “birthright subjectship” or “birthright allegiance,” never using the terms citizen or citizenship.
"The idea of birthright subjectship, as Blackstone readily admits, is derived from feudal law. It is the relation of master and servant; all who are born within the protection of the king owe perpetual allegiance as a “debt of gratitude.” According to Blackstone, this debt is “intrinsic” and “cannot be forfeited, cancelled, or altered.” Birthright subjectship under the common law is thus the doctrine of “perpetual allegiance.”​
"This concern became the impetus for the Fourteenth Amendment, which constitutionalized the Civil Rights Act".​
IOW, without the 14A, Southern Democrats returning to Congress could repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Consider how the pre-17th Amendment Congress of 1866 passed in 1912 anticipated future problems and dealt with them. Where Senators were appointed by Governors and not elected.
Today a flaccid and inoperable Congress cares only about reelection ignoring the clear and present dangers like China or Muslims and Iran.
We do not despise Congress enough.
 

Are We Subjects or Citizens? Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution​

Apr 2026 ~~ By Edward J. Erler

It is broadly agreed by constitutional scholars that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to constitutionalize the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Many in Congress initially argued that the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865 granted citizenship and the rights and liberties attached to that status. Others argued that there should be explicit legislation, which resulted in the Civil Rights Act the following year. Still others thought the Civil Rights Act was insufficient because future majorities could repeal it. This concern became the impetus for the Fourteenth Amendment, which constitutionalized the Civil Rights Act.
The citizenship clause was a late addition to the Fourteenth Amendment. It is evident that the Joint Committee placed importance on the jurisdiction clause, which meant, at a minimum, that not all persons born in the U.S. were automatically citizens. Subject to the jurisdiction does not simply mean, as is commonly thought today, subject to American laws or American courts. It means owing exclusive political allegiance to the U.S. In sum, what we today call birthright citizenship is a legacy of feudalism that was decisively rejected as the ground of American citizenship by the Fourteenth Amendment and the Expatriation Act of 1868. It is absurd to believe that the Fourteenth Amendment confers the boon of American citizenship on the children of illegal aliens.
~Snip~

Decline of Citizenship and of the Nation State
The same kind of confusion that has led us to accept birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens has led us to tolerate dual citizenship. We recall that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment specified that those who are naturalized must owe exclusive allegiance to the U.S. to be included within its jurisdiction. And the citizenship oath taken by new citizens today still requires a pledge of such allegiance. But in practice dual citizenship—and dual allegiance—is allowed. This is a sign of the decline of American citizenship and of America as a nation state.
~Snip~
The doctrine of birthright citizenship and the acceptance of dual citizenship are signs that we in the U.S. are on the verge of reinstituting feudalism and replacing citizenship with the master-servant relationship. The continued vitality of the nation state and of constitutional government depends on the continued vitality of citizenship, which carries with it exclusive allegiance to what the Declaration of Independence calls a “separate and equal” nation. Unless we recover an understanding of the foundations of citizenship, we will find ourselves in a world where there are subjects but no citizens.


Commentary:
You have to consider the fact that the Fourteenth Amendment was written and passed by a select few politicians.
Congress was well aware and knew that the very concept of citizenship was unknown in British common law. Blackstone speaks only of “birthright subjectship” or “birthright allegiance,” never using the terms citizen or citizenship.
"The idea of birthright subjectship, as Blackstone readily admits, is derived from feudal law. It is the relation of master and servant; all who are born within the protection of the king owe perpetual allegiance as a “debt of gratitude.” According to Blackstone, this debt is “intrinsic” and “cannot be forfeited, cancelled, or altered.” Birthright subjectship under the common law is thus the doctrine of “perpetual allegiance.”​
"This concern became the impetus for the Fourteenth Amendment, which constitutionalized the Civil Rights Act".​
IOW, without the 14A, Southern Democrats returning to Congress could repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1866.
Consider how the pre-17th Amendment Congress of 1866 passed in 1912 anticipated future problems and dealt with them. Where Senators were appointed by Governors and not elected.
Today a flaccid and inoperable Congress cares only about reelection ignoring the clear and present dangers like China or Muslims and Iran.
We do not despise Congress enough.
False statement. They were chosen by state legislatures.
 
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America cannot survive unlimited birthright citizenship


The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment was never intended to reward transient foreigners,
diplomats, or invaders who enter without consent.
15 Apr 2026 ~~ By Brian Lonergan

As the Supreme Court weighs challenges to President Trump’s executive order limiting automatic citizenship for children of illegal aliens and temporary visa holders, America stands at a constitutional crossroads. If sanity and common sense prevail, the justices will recognize what generations of anti-borders advocates have obscured: birthright citizenship, as currently practiced, was never meant to be a global entitlement.
The 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause was a surgical remedy for the unique injustice inflicted on freed black slaves and their descendants — not a blank check for the world’s opportunists. Unless the Court restores its original meaning, this misapplied policy will accelerate the erosion of everything that makes America worth defending.
The historical record is unambiguous. Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment’s first sentence — “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens” — was drafted to overturn the Supreme Court’s odious Dred Scott decision, which had declared Black Americans non-citizens.
The clause was drafted to protect a specific group fully subject to American sovereignty — freed slaves who had lived their entire lives under the Constitution’s authority, owed it allegiance, and possessed no competing loyalties to other countries. It was never intended to reward transient foreigners, diplomats, or invaders who enter without consent. The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was the escape hatch precisely to exclude those whose primary allegiance lay elsewhere.
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Modern birth tourism and illegal alien births represent a grotesque perversion of that narrow precedent. Wealthy Chinese, Russian, and Middle Eastern elites pay up to $50,000 for “maternity hotel” packages that include apartments, private doctors, and airport shuttles. Their American-born infants receive passports they treat as luxury accessories, while the parents return home to enjoy the strategic option of future U.S. sponsorship, education subsidies, and welfare access.
This exploitation is a moral insult to the legacy of freed slaves. The 14th Amendment was purchased with the blood of 360,000 Union dead and the sweat of four million emancipated Americans who had been denied every right of citizenship under Dred Scott. Their descendants fought for generations to make that promise real — through Jim Crow, lynchings, and civil rights marches.
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Most dangerously, birthright citizenship erodes American exceptionalism itself. The United States has always defined citizenship by consent and allegiance, not blood or soil alone. We are a propositional nation whose strength rests on the rule of law, individual liberty, and the deliberate choice to fully participate in American society. Granting citizenship automatically to the offspring of those who reject that choice — illegal entrants or short-term visitors — turns sovereignty into a birthright for foreigners and renders citizenship meaningless.
The Supreme Court now has the chance — and the duty — to correct a century of misinterpretation. Overturning the expansive reading of birthright citizenship is not radical. It honors the freed slaves whose struggle birthed the clause, halts the birth-tourism scam that insults their memory, and reasserts that American citizenship is a privilege of the sovereign people. Failure to act will not preserve some abstract ideal of openness. It will speed the transformation of the last best hope of earth into just another crowded, factionalized, overburdened state that is culturally unrecognizable and fiscally bankrupt. In other words, no longer exceptional. We owe future generations more than that.


Commentary:
President Trump's Executive Order 14160 Is Constitutional and Legal and it restores the meaning of the 14th Amendment. Illegal Immigrants are not U.S. Citizens, their children are not U.S. Citizens.
The word "Birthright Citizenship" is not in the Constitution. and was never implied
If we don’t accept “Illegal Immigrants are not U.S. citizens, their children are not U.S. citizens”, then let's abolish the U.S. Borders. Open the U.S. Borders welcoming everybody regardless of culture, ethnic, religion, politics, ideology, income.
Biden and his criminal appointee Alejandro Mayorkas attempted to impose upon America by opening our borders.
Regretfully, the Roberts led SCOTUS will defer to Congress to rectify this aberration because they have no common sense. They focus so narrowly on precedence and not on original intent that they are basically stupid. Congress is so dysfunctional and with Democrats in favor of birthright, we are doomed! The next generation of Chinese birthrights will be enough to change an election for POTUS!
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
"Bona fide citizen: A U.S. citizen who meets the IRS’s bona fide residence test for a foreign country.
The US needs to put a stop to the practice of foreign women travelling to the US for the sole purpose of giving birth here so the child can be a US citizen.
 
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Thank you, I stand corrected... I did not research it before posting.
You're correct. Yet, I believe that the method prior to 1913 was better and less political than today.
It wasn’t just better, it was designed to be another check on the power of the federal government. The House represented the people, the Senate represented the states.
 
Anti immigrant bullshit.

America was founded on immigration. When I was a kid everyone referred to the "great American melting pot" proudly.
Well someone turned off the heat. It's a mixing bowl now, and those don't last long.
Borders, language and culture. A population must be uified on that. We are no longer and have not been for some time.
 

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