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Someone in the crowd who is NOT chanting anything or threatening anything is not culpable to the actions of those around him.
When the homeowners pointed their loaded weapons into the crowd, any "innocent" person in the crowd could stand his ground and shoot first.
Read it again. Someone who was part of the peaceful crowd can't be lumped in with those who broke the law. And if the homeowner point their gun at them (remember they're one of the innocent ones) can they stand their ground and shoot first. Since they have a lethal weapon pointed at them.No they cannot because they were the aggressors. SYG does not cover aggression. SYG covers not having to withdraw from a threatening situation. They approached the home owners and their property. They were not threatened, they were threatening them. Furthermore, they returned Friday to advance that aggression.
Depends on the totality of the circumstances, actually.571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:
(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;Point a loaded gun at a person is a threat. PERIOD.They didn't express anger or threat, they expressed fear.
Like the man said, if you sleep with dogs you will wake up with fleasSomeone who was part of the peaceful crowd can't be lumped in with those who broke the law.
Someone in the crowd who is NOT chanting anything or threatening anything is not culpable to the actions of those around him.
When the homeowners pointed their loaded weapons into the crowd, any "innocent" person in the crowd could stand his ground and shoot first.Read it again. Someone who was part of the peaceful crowd can't be lumped in with those who broke the law. And if the homeowner point their gun at them (remember they're one of the innocent ones) can they stand their ground and shoot first. Since they have a lethal weapon pointed at them.No they cannot because they were the aggressors. SYG does not cover aggression. SYG covers not having to withdraw from a threatening situation. They approached the home owners and their property. They were not threatened, they were threatening them. Furthermore, they returned Friday to advance that aggression.
Point a loaded gun at a person is a threat. PERIOD.
Them is limited to those who actually violated the law. Any of "them" who did not, are not legal targets, and pointing your gun at them is a crime.No. not period. If I'm sitting on my front porch and pointing a firearm at passing cars, that is a threat. If people are approaching and trespassing my property with threats of violence to me and my family, then pointing my firearm at them is in self-defense.
Point a loaded gun at a person is a threat. PERIOD.Them is limited to those who actually violated the law. Any of "them" who did not, are not legal targets, and pointing your gun at them is a crime.No. not period. If I'm sitting on my front porch and pointing a firearm at passing cars, that is a threat. If people are approaching and trespassing my property with threats of violence to me and my family, then pointing my firearm at them is in self-defense.
What would you call a person walking through the crowd onto the persons property attempting to deliver the mail? And they point their guns at the mailman?
That's a crime both state and federal.
Trump was in the company of felons, like Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn.Like the man said, if you sleep with dogs you will wake up with fleasSomeone who was part of the peaceful crowd can't be lumped in with those who broke the law.
What would you call a person walking through the crowd onto the persons property attempting to deliver the mail? And they point their guns at the mailman?
That's a crime both state and federal.
Once more, the only one's presenting a "threat" are those that break the law. If a woman with a stroller is in the crowd can you shoot the baby?A mailman does not present a threat. A mob does, especially when they are screaming and yelling their intentions. That is a threat, and the family reserves every legal right to react to such a threat.
You tell meDoes that make Trump guilty?
You are working awful hard to try and make someone guilty of something...... anything, aren't you?Trump was in the company of felons, like Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn.Like the man said, if you sleep with dogs you will wake up with fleasSomeone who was part of the peaceful crowd can't be lumped in with those who broke the law.
Does that make Trump guilty?
As you said, if you lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas. If you hang around felons, (think conspiracy) you should go to jail with them.You tell meDoes that make Trump guilty?
the left has been trying to convict trump of something since the day he came down the elevator in trump tower
You are working awful hard to try and make someone guilty of something...... anything, aren't you?
That may be how it works in lib la la land but trump had nothing to do with their illegal activitiesyou should go to jail with them.
Arrest both criminals - except they acted on reason of self-defense, what I doubt. I think they demonstrated with weapons in their hands for the own opinion and against the opinion of others. That's no way to discuss. That's criminal.1. The Law and 2nd Amendment says that the homeowners have every right to defend their home and property, read the links on "stand your ground" and the "castle doctrine".Missouri is a "stand your ground" state. People have the right to defend their home and property, period. ...
Arrest both lawyers and throw them into prison. No one has any right to threaten others with guns, who use their right of free opinion
2. The protesters broke into private property, were trespassing, and threatened the homeowners.
3. You're wrong, this is the US, not the EU.
What crime did they commit? Maybe in your country it's a crime, but over here it's a right.
Trump (aka individual 1) paid Michael Cohen to commit a felony.That may be how it works in lib la la land but trump had nothing to do with their illegal activities
and in the case of Flynn the charges were bogus
Does that include the crime of brandishing?Sure you can, the criminal is the one committing a crime.
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What felony?Trump (aka individual 1) paid Michael Cohen to commit a felony.
What is not your problem? You said "It wasn't a crime" - now you see it is a crime.Well tell the DA that then.
It's not my problem.It wasn't a crime in that case.
They had a mob trespassing on their property.Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally
law.lis.virginia.gov
§ 18.2-282. Pointing, holding, or brandishing firearm, air or gas operated weapon or object similar in appearance; penalty.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured.
They are not authorized to use deadly force against outdoor trespass, therefore there is no authorization to brandish a weapon they are prohibited from using.
One of the ones Michael Cohen got three years for.What felony?Trump (aka individual 1) paid Michael Cohen to commit a felony.
FYI. I corrected the post to use missouri law, which makes it a crime anywhere, not just in public. And involves pointing a weapon in a threatening manner. Such as at someone with it loaded and with your finger on the trigger.What is not your problem? You said "It wasn't a crime" - now you see it is a crime.It's not my problem.
