So Joe... what is the "fair share"???

[jc456]

I have yet to see a graph, or anything from IRS statistics from you.

And the only thing your WaPo link informed me of was that Cat Stevens is back.

right? Cat Stevens. No fking graph. then he can't apologize and include a corrected link. he's truly a schmuck.

 

[miketx]

So Biden... what is a "FAIR SHARE"???

Same as sensible gun laws.

 

[jc456]

explain this statement. 27% of 1 million puts how much in tax revenue? 27% of 1000 is how much? I know you won't respond with an answer because it defeats your position. it's rhetorical from me.

francoHFW so nothing, as expected. I drop mic

 

[francoHFW]

right? Cat Stevens. No fking graph. then he can't apologize and include a corrected link. he's truly a schmuck.

The link has disappeared. The only article I have ever seen that shows we have a flat tax system if you count all taxes. Meanwhile you idiot ignoramuses believe 47% pay no tax lol... Poor America.

 

[j-mac]

Not as bad as you idiots who keep voting for the 2 parties that fucked up this country because you think the same 2 bunches of corrupt assholes can unfuck it

Oh, your a libertarian....Ok, got it...For the record there is probably more that we agree on than not...But that aside, maybe you can explain what is a "fair share"?

 

[francoHFW]

francoHFW so nothing, as expected. I drop mic

I understand that you are an idiot who doesn't know that only per capita percentage makes any sense. The average billionaire pays 27% on average and the average middle class person pays 27% on average of income d u h. Only you brainwashed functional morons don't understand a flat tax does not work. In the entire world lol. Poor America

 

[francoHFW]

Oh, your a libertarian....Ok, got it...For the record there is probably more that we agree on than not...But that aside, maybe you can explain what is a "fair share"?

Fair fair share is what we had before Reagan went out the door and made it 28%. He had success when he cut it from 70% to 50% but 28% top rate means gigantic inequality and horrible upward mobility.

 

[healthmyths]

The link has disappeared. The only article I have ever seen that shows we have a flat tax system if you count all taxes. Meanwhile you idiot ignoramuses believe 47% pay no tax lol... Poor America.

I just did a Google search:7.2 billion results ... and 60.6% of all 144 million households paid no taxes.
Of the 144.5 million,
75.1 million filers paid no taxes after deductions and credits.( 52%)
Another 32 million households did not file a tax return. (22%)
In total, about 107 million Americans (or 60.6 percent of households) paid no federal income taxes.

COVID-19 Tax Relief Added to Increasing Share of Households Paying No Income Tax

In 2020, about 60 percent of households did not pay income tax, up from 43.6 percent of households in 2019. Much of the 2020 increase was due to pandemic-related factors, but the growing share of households paying no income tax should be kept in mind when evaluating the progressivity of the...

taxfoundation.org

 

[healthmyths]

I understand that you are an idiot who doesn't know that only per capita percentage makes any sense. The average billionaire pays 27% on average and the average middle class person pays 27% on average of income d u h. Only you brainwashed functional morons don't understand a flat tax does not work. In the entire world lol. Poor America

I provide links you... zero! Where is your proof the average middle class person pay 27% of Federal taxes?
While the number of returns and amount of AGI rose, total income taxes paid fell by $65 billion. Altogether, taxpayers paid $1.5 trillion in income taxes in 2018, down about 4 percent from 2017.
The average individual income tax rate for all taxpayers fell from 14.6 percent to 13.3 percent.

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2025 Update

New IRS data shows the US federal income tax system continues to be progressive as high-income taxpayers pay the highest average income tax rates. Average tax rates for all income groups remain lower after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

taxfoundation.org

 

[j-mac]

Fair fair share is what we had before Reagan went out the door and made it 28%. He had success when he cut it from 70% to 50% but 28% top rate means gigantic inequality and horrible upward mobility.

And what makes you think that the Government is entitled to 50% of anyones earnings?

 

[jc456]

I understand that you are an idiot who doesn't know that only per capita percentage makes any sense. The average billionaire pays 27% on average and the average middle class person pays 27% on average of income d u h. Only you brainwashed functional morons don't understand a flat tax does not work. In the entire world lol. Poor America

You can’t explain the issue, why?

fundamentally you’re confused by demofks

 

[francoHFW]

And what makes you think that the Government is entitled to 50% of anyones earnings?

History Justice and intelligence. Change the channel.

 

[Blues Man]

Oh, your a libertarian....Ok, got it...For the record there is probably more that we agree on than not...But that aside, maybe you can explain what is a "fair share"?

Nope not a libertarian.

And there is no such thing as a "fair" share.

Income tax is the worst way to generate revenue.

It's too complicated and too easy to avoid.

It's estimated that 2 trillion in income annually is not reported and that doesn't count illicit sources of income.

 

[Blues Man]

Look at all the financial wizards!

Most people ain't that

We know you ain't

And you don't have to be an expert to save money

 

[j-mac]

Nope not a libertarian.

And there is no such thing as a "fair" share.

Income tax is the worst way to generate revenue.

It's too complicated and too easy to avoid.

It's estimated that 2 trillion in income annually is not reported and that doesn't count illicit sources of income.

See, I knew we could agree. There is no such thing. So, what’s the answer realistically?

 

[Blues Man]

See, I knew we could agree. There is no such thing. So, what’s the answer realistically?

A consumption tax is the best option IMO.

I like some of the Fair Tax proposal but I disagree with the monthly welfare check part.

Just exempt necessities like food, clothing medical services and prescription drugs from the tax.

 

[Lesh]

We know you ain't

And you don't have to be an expert to save money

If you count on only the stock market as your retirement you BETTER be an expert.

You pretty much better understand "puts" and shorting stock ..

Do you? No?

Ohhh. You're screwed

 

[Blues Man]

If you count on only the stock market as your retirement you BETTER be an expert.

You pretty much better understand "puts" and shorting stock ..

Do you? No?

Ohhh. You're screwed

Who said that's all I count on?

Oh yeah you just made that up.

I retired at 50 when will you retire?

 

[healthmyths]

If you count on only the stock market as your retirement you BETTER be an expert.

You pretty much better understand "puts" and shorting stock ..

Do you? No?

Ohhh. You're screwed

Well one thing seems certain is you know nothing about investing as you evidently operate on people making an ass out of you, i.e. "Assumption". Most savvy investors don't assume but deal with facts and most of the time these savvy investors
don't jump to conclusions, i.e. "Do you? No?" you wrote.

 

[francoHFW]

You can’t explain the issue, why?

fundamentally you’re confused by demofks

A flat tax system like we have is a giveaway to the rich and a screw job for you and regular people. Of course the rich pay more even with a flat tax Jesus.