Right-Wing Challenge: Fair Income Tax For The Top 50% vs Bottom 50%

[progressive hunter]

What do you want them to pay and how will that help what you are looking to achieve? I will help you with the math.

what I am looking to achieve is everyone paying their fair share,,
and since 50% pay little or nothing, some while receiving benefits, thats the opposite of fair share,,

once we have that then we can talk about your feelings,,

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[citygator]

what I am looking to achieve is everyone paying their fair share,,
and since 50% pay little or nothing, some while receiving benefits, thats the opposite of fair share,,

once we have that then we can talk about your feelings,,

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This is about YOUR feelings. OK. Here is the math. The top today is taxed at an effective rate of 10%. That's right. 10%. We get $2.3T from the top half as you can see above in the infographic. At 10% to the bottom you have now raised $200B off the backs of the poor. Congratulations. Now you are $1.8T short of a balanced budget. How did taking money from people on average making less than $25k per year help? How are we now solvent with a $1.8T deficit vs $2.0T deficit?

What did that achieve? That is math.

 

[progressive hunter]

This is about YOUR feelings. OK. Here is the math. The top today is taxed at an effective rate of 10%. That's right. 10%. We get $2.3T from the top half as you can see above in the infographic. At 10% to the bottom you have now raised $200B off the backs of the poor. Congratulations. Now you are $1.8T short of a balanced budget. How did taking money from people on average making less than $25k per year help? How are we now solvent with a $1.8T deficit vs $2.0T deficit?

What did that achieve? That is math.

math doesnt matter when 50% pay nothing into the system while sucking the tit of that system,,

when they injustice is corrected we can talk about math and your feelings,,

 

[citygator]

math doesnt matter when 50% pay nothing into the system while sucking the tit of that system,,

when they injustice is corrected we can talk about math and your feelings,,

So Math doesnt matter? It is feelings my friend. This was a good exercise but I think we are at an impasse.

To summarize: You want poor people to pay more in income taxes (they pay tons of other taxes) not because it will help the finances of the country in any material way but you feel they just should. You cant explain why, you just know they should. Sounds like feelings.

 

[progressive hunter]

So Math doesnt matter? It is feelings my friend. This was a good exercise but I think we are at an impasse.

To summarize: You want poor people to pay more in income taxes (they pay tons of other taxes) not because it will help the finances of the country in any material way but you feel they just should. You cant explain why, you just know they should. Sounds like feelings.

not when 50% arent even paying into the system,,

the topic is a fair income tax and that is the opposite of fair

 

[citygator]

not when 50% arent even paying into the system,,

the topic is a fair income tax and that is the opposite of fair

Feelings.

 

[progressive hunter]

Feelings.

its a fact 50% pay little or nothing with some even sucking off the system they pay nothing into,,

its also a fact thats the opposite of fair,,