So, Do Democrats REALLY Oppose HydroxyChloroquine Only Because Trump Supports Using It? Seems So.....

Can Hydroxychloroquine save lives?

  • No, it is snake oil

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Yes, and the goobermint should not intrude on doctor patient choices

    Votes: 25 83.3%
  • I dunno, whose playing tonight?

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
We do not oppose it. We believe it needs proper trials on its efficacy.

Who does it work best on? 40-50 year olds, 60-70 year olds?

Female vs male?

At what time during the disease...before you're really sick, after you are sick, but before put on a ventilator?

What dosage is good? For what age, what weight?

Like every other drug, we need to know these things...

Just like we are doing with all the other drugs created by our best and brightest scientists out there now, to combat the disease that are going thru trials, that are showing even greater promise than this drug for malaria....
Preliminary tests tell the medical community that it works, and it works well. It would keep a lot of people alive if the DNC would take off its gloves. Sadly, the party importantes disapprove of every little thing President Trump suggests is effective. I just don't know what it takes, because some people down at the bottom of the totem pole have no hope without something that works considerably well to spite the face of death from COVID-19.. The professionals available to President Trump are not fly-by-nights. They're real good medical people who know a winner when their first tests are in and help people if they get the diagnosis soon enough. I love them for their wonderful work. :huddle:

If the Democrats take people's hope away because it hasn't been 40 years in the proof, many who take them on their disgust will die who might well have been saved if they knew the results of the prelims. My prayers are up for the infected people that they do the do and get well very soon. :hands:

I'm curious...

How exactly is the DNC preventing the drug from being dispensed?
Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none.

So if the DNC hated my doctor, my pharmacist, etc.... my doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat me?

Honestly...your response was complete bullshit. Hate doesn't prevent the President from doing anything. Otherwise he wouldn't have looted the treasury to pay for a wall, be keeping kids in tiny cages, not giving the kids soap and toothpaste, banging adult film stars and paying them hush money.

Or any of the other 400 things the grotesque whoremonger you worship did.
I said: "Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none."

You decided that meant your doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat you, and you well knew I did not say anything even remotely about your physician or your pharmacist.

That's as dishonest as it gets and I reprimand you for your pulling crap outta your butt and posting it on USMB. Consider yourself ignored for 3 days, my way. It's disgusting the way you decided to put your lies into my mouth, and you completely discredited yourself all by yourself, madam or sir.
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
We do not oppose it. We believe it needs proper trials on its efficacy.

Who does it work best on? 40-50 year olds, 60-70 year olds?

Female vs male?

At what time during the disease...before you're really sick, after you are sick, but before put on a ventilator?

What dosage is good? For what age, what weight?

Like every other drug, we need to know these things...

Just like we are doing with all the other drugs created by our best and brightest scientists out there now, to combat the disease that are going thru trials, that are showing even greater promise than this drug for malaria....
Preliminary tests tell the medical community that it works, and it works well. It would keep a lot of people alive if the DNC would take off its gloves. Sadly, the party importantes disapprove of every little thing President Trump suggests is effective. I just don't know what it takes, because some people down at the bottom of the totem pole have no hope without something that works considerably well to spite the face of death from COVID-19.. The professionals available to President Trump are not fly-by-nights. They're real good medical people who know a winner when their first tests are in and help people if they get the diagnosis soon enough. I love them for their wonderful work. :huddle:

If the Democrats take people's hope away because it hasn't been 40 years in the proof, many who take them on their disgust will die who might well have been saved if they knew the results of the prelims. My prayers are up for the infected people that they do the do and get well very soon. :hands:

I'm curious...

How exactly is the DNC preventing the drug from being dispensed?
Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none.

So if the DNC hated my doctor, my pharmacist, etc.... my doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat me?

Honestly...your response was complete bullshit. Hate doesn't prevent the President from doing anything. Otherwise he wouldn't have looted the treasury to pay for a wall, be keeping kids in tiny cages, not giving the kids soap and toothpaste, banging adult film stars and paying them hush money.

Or any of the other 400 things the grotesque whoremonger you worship did.
I said: "Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none."

You decided that meant your doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat you, and you well knew I did not say anything even remotely about your physician or your pharmacist.

That's as dishonest as it gets and I reprimand you for your pulling crap outta your butt and posting it on USMB. Consider yourself ignored for 3 days, my way. It's disgusting the way you decided to put your lies into my mouth, and you completely discredited yourself all by yourself, madam or sir.
No bitch.

the DNC isn’t stopping your master from doing anything.

you are the dumbest person ever if you think otherwise
 
The reality is that some studies have shown some ways that hydroxychloroquine can be effective, but none of them claims hydroxychloroquine fights COVID-19.
What they say instead is that in later stages of COVID-19 infection, the actual cause of death is from an over activated immune system response. So then hydroxychloroquine can suppress the immune system and help keep the person alive, but that does nothing to stop COVID-19.
Then YOU dont take it, jack ass, but stay out of everyone elses way, beoch.

roflmao, stupid ass ideologue.
He doesn't seem to understand when he is asked for a link, he should provide it. I have a hunch he will be rated in the least effective propagandist in the Democrat Party if he keeps overlooking debate necessities that tell others he's not pulling lies outta his heiny.

I have provided several links.
Look up hydroxychloroquine.
No one ever says it can effect a virus.
It can't.
What it is used for is to reduce immune system response.
Which actually can increase a virus infection.
The only time it should be taken by those who have a virus, is if the immune response is out of control and potentially a deadly side effect.

{...
STAT fact check: It is true that hydroxychloroquine is a drug shown to be effective at treating and preventing malaria, as well as lupus.

There is conflicting evidence as to whether hydroxychloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, is effective at treating coronavirus symptoms. All the studies of the drug are small, and none are definitive. One French study seemed to show hydroxychloroquine is effective at reducing the amount of virus in Covid-19 patients. But a small randomized study in China appeared to show that patients who took the drug did not benefit substantially compared to patients who didn’t use it.

Later in his remarks, Trump also appeared to reference that French study, which was conducted by a group of doctors including the controversial Didier Raoult, a French researcher who has sparred with health authorities there over hydroxychloroquine in a fashion similar to Trump. That study concluded that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin used in combination helped decrease patients’ levels of coronavirus, though the study was not randomized, and the science has since been criticized by other researchers.
...}

The French study was getting a positive response from the azithromycin because in extreme cases, you need to treat the pneumonia side effect. There is no study or any doctor saying hydroxychloroquine has any effect on any virus at all.
 
They oppose its use because it might very well significantly reduce the impact of the virus - total deaths, total admissions to ICUs, total hospitalizations- which will give them less ammunition against Trump in November.

Win at all costs, see..
 
For someone in critical condition, go for it. Couldn't hurt. Probably.

But it still needs to be researched more, for this virus, before it's prescribed to everyone.
Lol they are taking it to avoid that point, doctor’s in the Er are taking it healthy.. stop watching fake news

No they are not.
There is not a single doctor that has ever said Hydroxychloroquinine works against any virus.
The most anyone can says is that Hydroxychloroquinine is useful to reduce a potentially fatal, over active immune system response.
Oh is that so? Well, my sources are opposite of yours:
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
We do not oppose it. We believe it needs proper trials on its efficacy.

Who does it work best on? 40-50 year olds, 60-70 year olds?

Female vs male?

At what time during the disease...before you're really sick, after you are sick, but before put on a ventilator?

What dosage works best? For what age, what weight? Child vs adult?

Like every other drug, we need to know these things...

Just like we are doing with all the other drugs created by our best and brightest scientists out there now, to combat the disease that are going thru trials, that are showing even greater promise than this drug for malaria....

Thanks - Nothing more needs to be said and we can ignore another stupid thread about hunches from Dr Donnie and his Quack Doctor du Jour.

trump-eyes-accused-quack-dr-oz-for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
Well, if an individual's symptoms are mild, then there is no point to taking the medication, however, if the symptoms become serious enough to warrant going to the hospital, then prescribing it at the hospital is fine. Just giving the medication out to anyone diagnosed with COVID-19, is wasting available supplies.
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
We do not oppose it. We believe it needs proper trials on its efficacy.

Who does it work best on? 40-50 year olds, 60-70 year olds?

Female vs male?

At what time during the disease...before you're really sick, after you are sick, but before put on a ventilator?

What dosage is good? For what age, what weight?

Like every other drug, we need to know these things...

Just like we are doing with all the other drugs created by our best and brightest scientists out there now, to combat the disease that are going thru trials, that are showing even greater promise than this drug for malaria....
Preliminary tests tell the medical community that it works, and it works well. It would keep a lot of people alive if the DNC would take off its gloves. Sadly, the party importantes disapprove of every little thing President Trump suggests is effective. I just don't know what it takes, because some people down at the bottom of the totem pole have no hope without something that works considerably well to spite the face of death from COVID-19.. The professionals available to President Trump are not fly-by-nights. They're real good medical people who know a winner when their first tests are in and help people if they get the diagnosis soon enough. I love them for their wonderful work. :huddle:

If the Democrats take people's hope away because it hasn't been 40 years in the proof, many who take them on their disgust will die who might well have been saved if they knew the results of the prelims. My prayers are up for the infected people that they do the do and get well very soon. :hands:

I'm curious...

How exactly is the DNC preventing the drug from being dispensed?
Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none.

So if the DNC hated my doctor, my pharmacist, etc.... my doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat me?

Honestly...your response was complete bullshit. Hate doesn't prevent the President from doing anything. Otherwise he wouldn't have looted the treasury to pay for a wall, be keeping kids in tiny cages, not giving the kids soap and toothpaste, banging adult film stars and paying them hush money.

Or any of the other 400 things the grotesque whoremonger you worship did.
I said: "Through common hate of anything and everything President Trump supports due to his research and decisiveness. Hate is a truly lethal commodity in fighting this coronavirus disease-19, and the Democrats need to get a perspective, as they have none."

You decided that meant your doctor or pharmacist wouldn't treat you, and you well knew I did not say anything even remotely about your physician or your pharmacist.

That's as dishonest as it gets and I reprimand you for your pulling crap outta your butt and posting it on USMB. Consider yourself ignored for 3 days, my way. It's disgusting the way you decided to put your lies into my mouth, and you completely discredited yourself all by yourself, madam or sir.
No bitch.

the DNC isn’t stopping your master from doing anything.

you are the dumbest person ever if you think otherwise
Something for your trolling, filthy little dirty mouth:
Oh, my goodness, I found 2 for the price of one, good, because you need more than the average bull:
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I keep seeing people on this site talking about how well hydroxycholorquine is working. Where is this information coming from? I can't seem to find much about it outside of the 2 small studies that were what got it noticed as a possible treatment in the first place.

I have seen a few people saying that it helped them, but nothing about the sort of widespread positive outcomes that posters here appear to be claiming. Does anyone have any sort of articles or research they could post showing that this is working, other than the original French and Chinese studies that kicked this all off?

It would be great if this turns out to be an effective treatment, I just haven't seen anything one way or another to indicate that it is being effective in widespread fashion.
Montrovant, several days ago I read an article on the patients now using hydroxycholorquine, and I got the distinct impression the stuff is like N-Saids are to a headache: HOClQ just works, and people literally walk away well. I've heard nothing to the contrary, except that people waiting too late to take it are taking a quite lethal chance, particularly if they're very old or very immune system-compromised. I don't remember the stats if any, it's just a good way to walk away from the virus well in a few short days. Of course, people are required to stay away from others a good two or three weeks after they are declared "well." IOW, they want to get back to work instead of being 6 ft. under.


Everyone in the medical profession I have talked to said the exact opposite, that hydroxychloroquine is of little practical use.
If you do not have COVID-19 or have a very early case, then by hydroxychloroquine suppressing the immune system, it makes the COVID-19 infection far worse than it would have been without the hydroxychloroquine.
Only if you have an extremely severe case of COVID-19 is it possible that hydroxychloroquine might help a little.
It does 3 things. By suppressing the immune system, it brings down fevers that could be fatal all by themselves. By making cell membranes more permeable, they allow antibiotics to be more effective if the person has come down with bronchial pneumonia, bacterial infection. By making the cell more alkaline, the COVID-19 reproduction is reduced slightly.
If you give hydroxychloroquine to the patient too early, you are making it much more likely they will die.
My sources differ greatly from your unknown ones.
Thousands of Doctors: Yes, Hydroxychloroquine Works Against Wuhan Coronavirus

An international poll of thousands of doctors rated the Trump-touted anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine the best treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Of the 6,227 physicians surveyed in 30 countries, 37 percent rated hydroxychloroquine the “most effective therapy” for combating the potentially deadly illness, according to the results released Thursday.

The survey, conducted by the global health care polling company Sermo, also found that 23 percent of medical professionals had prescribed the drug in the US — far less than other countries.

"Outside the US, hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the US it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosed patients,” the survey found.

The medicine was most widely used in Spain, where 72 percent of physicians said they had prescribed it.



This is an international study viewpoint. So do we go with the thousands of doctors who support the use of hydroxychloroquine or do we trust the Democrat Party's unique group after they lied about Trump for 3+ years, impeached him when he was found innocent of their projecting charges in which their leaders actually went after Trump by soliciting Russia for bad stuff on him, which turned out to be a little Faerie Tale written by none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton's former War Room buddies bought and paid for by Mrs. Clinton.

I hope those of you who read this make the right decision on avoiding death if you should succumb to COVID-19. You have both sides stated, and it's too bad there is jealousy and hatred in politics in an election year. We should be on each others' side at this time. :huddle:

My prayers are up for Aemricans. :hands:

Actually, based on the NY Post article that townhall apparently got it's information from, only 2171 doctors were asked which drug was the most effective, and 37%, or 803, said hydroxycholorquine. For comparison, 32% said none.

At this point, it seems like hydroxychloroquine may help some COVID-19 sufferers. It is not safe for everyone; from things I've read, some of the high-risk sufferers may have to take medications already which would react badly with hydroxychloroquine. In those who can safely take the drug combination, however, I don't see a problem giving it to them...so long as it isn't used so much that people with other conditions, who already take the drug, can't get it.

There seems to be a lot of partisan bickering about this drug. Trump supporters on this site appear likely to consider it some sort of miracle treatment, even a cure, and claim it is both being used widely and being successful widely, but rarely provide any evidence of that (thank you for the links, beautress).

Those who don't like Trump on this site appear likely to consider it useless, or oppose giving it even to those in severe distress.

Obviously those are the extremes. It ought not to be a political issue, but on USMB, everything is. :p
I just picked up a recent info blurb at Bing dot com and would like to share it with you, my dear pal Montrovant:

US deaths reach 10,000
Coronavirus deaths in the US have surpassed 10,000, according to tracking numbers from John Hopkins. As of 11:30 a.m. PT Monday, COVID-19 fatalities in the US sat at 10,335 with 347,000 cases nationwide. By comparison, deaths in Italy number 16,523, deaths in Spain are at 13,169, deaths in France number 8,093, deaths in the UK are at 5,383, deaths in Iran are at 3,739 and fatalities in China are at 3,335.

Hydroxycholorquine has pulled the stats down considerably. If the DNC has its way of squelching this product from public use, and I think they're making a heinous mistake by misleading their followers into not taking this helpful assist to survival among Democrats. We're frontline warriors for our fellow Americans of all parties, and we debated well into the evening hours last night. The Democrats are putting ego first and duty last. Bad combo, imho.


Wrong again.
The US is NOT prescribing hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19, and it is used only in certain cases, to treat side effects.
And other countries like Spain and Italy have experimented with hydroxychloroquine MORE than the US has, without showing positive effect.
That is because Mediterranean countries have a lot more malaria cases to treat, so have a much larger supply of hydroxychloroquine on hand to try.

The US has low case rates so far because we are behind Europe, and had not gotten near our peak yet, while Europe is well over the peak and it is almost over there.
 
The reality is that some studies have shown some ways that hydroxychloroquine can be effective, but none of them claims hydroxychloroquine fights COVID-19.
What they say instead is that in later stages of COVID-19 infection, the actual cause of death is from an over activated immune system response. So then hydroxychloroquine can suppress the immune system and help keep the person alive, but that does nothing to stop COVID-19.
Then YOU dont take it, jack ass, but stay out of everyone elses way, beoch.

roflmao, stupid ass ideologue.
He doesn't seem to understand when he is asked for a link, he should provide it. I have a hunch he will be rated in the least effective propagandist in the Democrat Party if he keeps overlooking debate necessities that tell others he's not pulling lies outta his heiny.

I have provided several links.
Look up hydroxychloroquine.
No one ever says it can effect a virus.
It can't.
What it is used for is to reduce immune system response.
Which actually can increase a virus infection.
The only time it should be taken by those who have a virus, is if the immune response is out of control and potentially a deadly side effect.

{...
STAT fact check: It is true that hydroxychloroquine is a drug shown to be effective at treating and preventing malaria, as well as lupus.

There is conflicting evidence as to whether hydroxychloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, is effective at treating coronavirus symptoms. All the studies of the drug are small, and none are definitive. One French study seemed to show hydroxychloroquine is effective at reducing the amount of virus in Covid-19 patients. But a small randomized study in China appeared to show that patients who took the drug did not benefit substantially compared to patients who didn’t use it.

Later in his remarks, Trump also appeared to reference that French study, which was conducted by a group of doctors including the controversial Didier Raoult, a French researcher who has sparred with health authorities there over hydroxychloroquine in a fashion similar to Trump. That study concluded that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin used in combination helped decrease patients’ levels of coronavirus, though the study was not randomized, and the science has since been criticized by other researchers.
...}

The French study was getting a positive response from the azithromycin because in extreme cases, you need to treat the pneumonia side effect. There is no study or any doctor saying hydroxychloroquine has any effect on any virus at all.
La ti da. Last night you did not prove your case, and now you blanket this board with irrelevant links you provided at some nebulous time and place at USMB. La double-t da.
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
Well, if an individual's symptoms are mild, then there is no point to taking the medication, however, if the symptoms become serious enough to warrant going to the hospital, then prescribing it at the hospital is fine. Just giving the medication out to anyone diagnosed with COVID-19, is wasting available supplies.

No, wasting supplies is not the point.
The point is that what hydroxychloroquine is only good for is reducing the immune system from killing you as it over reacts to the COVID-19 infection.
So if you do not have a potentially deadly immune system over reaction, then hydroxychloroquine will only make your COVID-19 infection worse.
 
This is just unbelievable, but Democrats are slamming on the use of Hydroxychloroquine merely because Trump recommends it, and of course ORANGE MAN BAD!

So The goobernor of Mitchagain and New Yahk restrict the patient doctor relationship to only using it in a hospital setting?

OMG!



Will this wake black voters up about the Dimocrat Death Party (of Abortion) and its very evil core nature?

Of course not.
Well, if an individual's symptoms are mild, then there is no point to taking the medication, however, if the symptoms become serious enough to warrant going to the hospital, then prescribing it at the hospital is fine. Just giving the medication out to anyone diagnosed with COVID-19, is wasting available supplies.
That should be up to the doctor, not armchair Quarterbacks.
 
Thanks - Nothing more needs to be said and we can ignore another stupid thread about hunches from Dr Donnie and his Quack Doctor du Jour.

trump-eyes-accused-quack-dr-oz-for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice
Daily Beast is a foaming mouthed mad dog leftist site. Whatever points you think it gave you,
for all that's worth, your use of partisan hacks to back up your red herring posts (the issue of what Dr. Oz thinks of the hydroxycloraquine medicine is irrelevant in the larger picture) robs you of any real authority here anyway.
 
The reality is that some studies have shown some ways that hydroxychloroquine can be effective, but none of them claims hydroxychloroquine fights COVID-19.
What they say instead is that in later stages of COVID-19 infection, the actual cause of death is from an over activated immune system response. So then hydroxychloroquine can suppress the immune system and help keep the person alive, but that does nothing to stop COVID-19.
Then YOU dont take it, jack ass, but stay out of everyone elses way, beoch.

roflmao, stupid ass ideologue.
He doesn't seem to understand when he is asked for a link, he should provide it. I have a hunch he will be rated in the least effective propagandist in the Democrat Party if he keeps overlooking debate necessities that tell others he's not pulling lies outta his heiny.

I have provided several links.
Look up hydroxychloroquine.
No one ever says it can effect a virus.
It can't.
What it is used for is to reduce immune system response.
Which actually can increase a virus infection.
The only time it should be taken by those who have a virus, is if the immune response is out of control and potentially a deadly side effect.

{...
STAT fact check: It is true that hydroxychloroquine is a drug shown to be effective at treating and preventing malaria, as well as lupus.

There is conflicting evidence as to whether hydroxychloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine combined with azithromycin, is effective at treating coronavirus symptoms. All the studies of the drug are small, and none are definitive. One French study seemed to show hydroxychloroquine is effective at reducing the amount of virus in Covid-19 patients. But a small randomized study in China appeared to show that patients who took the drug did not benefit substantially compared to patients who didn’t use it.

Later in his remarks, Trump also appeared to reference that French study, which was conducted by a group of doctors including the controversial Didier Raoult, a French researcher who has sparred with health authorities there over hydroxychloroquine in a fashion similar to Trump. That study concluded that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin used in combination helped decrease patients’ levels of coronavirus, though the study was not randomized, and the science has since been criticized by other researchers.
...}

The French study was getting a positive response from the azithromycin because in extreme cases, you need to treat the pneumonia side effect. There is no study or any doctor saying hydroxychloroquine has any effect on any virus at all.
La ti da. Last night you did not prove your case, and now you blanket this board with irrelevant links you provided at some nebulous time and place at USMB. La double-t da.

Just to look up what hydroxychloroquine does and how it works.
It does nothing to any virus.
What it does is inhibits our own bodies immune system response.
Which normally would be a very bad thing.
The ONLY time you want to inhibit the body immune system, is if it is over reacting and its cure is worse than the cause.

{...
Mechanism of action
Hydroxychloroquine increases[32] lysosomal pH in antigen-presenting cells. In inflammatory conditions, it blocks toll-like receptors on plasmacytoid dendritic cells (PDCs).[citation needed] Toll-like receptor 9 (TLR 9), which recognizes DNA-containing immune complexes, leads to the production of interferon and causes the dendritic cells to mature and present antigen to T cells. Hydroxychloroquine, by decreasing TLR signaling, reduces the activation of dendritic cells and the inflammatory process.[medical citation needed]

In 2003, a novel mechanism was described wherein hydroxychloroquine inhibits stimulation of the toll-like receptor (TLR) 9 family receptors. TLRs are cellular receptors for microbial products that induce inflammatory responses through activation of the innate immune system.[33]

As with other quinoline antimalarial drugs, the antimalarial mechanism of action of quinine has not been fully resolved. The most accepted model is based on hydrochloroquinine and involves the inhibition of hemozoin biocrystallization, which facilitates the aggregation of cytotoxic heme. Free cytotoxic heme accumulates in the parasites, causing death.[34]

...}
 
For someone in critical condition, go for it. Couldn't hurt. Probably.

But it still needs to be researched more, for this virus, before it's prescribed to everyone.

The drug was approved for medical use in 1955. It's safe. I have friends that take it for arthritis. It's not available over the counter. If someone is very sick with corona then why not try it if your doctor will prescribe it? It's not a guaranteed 100% to help (Trump isn't saying it's a vaccine or cure), but there are people reporting that it helped them.

But, I agree with the premise of the thread. If Trump said breathing was essential for life Liberals would pass out from not breathing.

I'm liberal and I say try it. But also that it needs to be tested further.
 
Thanks - Nothing more needs to be said and we can ignore another stupid thread about hunches from Dr Donnie and his Quack Doctor du Jour.

trump-eyes-accused-quack-dr-oz-for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice
Daily Beast is a foaming mouthed mad dog leftist site. Whatever points you think it gave you,
for all that's worth, your use of partisan hacks to back up your red herring posts (the issue of what Dr. Oz thinks of the hydroxycloraquine medicine is irrelevant in the larger picture) robs you of any real authority here anyway.

Donnie has never sought the advice from ANY doctor who wasn't a conspiracy theorist and/or Quack.

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Thanks - Nothing more needs to be said and we can ignore another stupid thread about hunches from Dr Donnie and his Quack Doctor du Jour.

trump-eyes-accused-quack-dr-oz-for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice
Daily Beast is a foaming mouthed mad dog leftist site. Whatever points you think it gave you,
for all that's worth, your use of partisan hacks to back up your red herring posts (the issue of what Dr. Oz thinks of the hydroxycloraquine medicine is irrelevant in the larger picture) robs you of any real authority here anyway.

Donnie has never sought the advice from ANY doctor who wasn't a conspiracy theorist and/or Quack.

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:icon_rolleyes: Your use of hyperbole and overstatement makes about 95% of your posts worthless.
Your lack of knowledge and good judgment makes the rest pointless as well.
 
Thanks - Nothing more needs to be said and we can ignore another stupid thread about hunches from Dr Donnie and his Quack Doctor du Jour.

trump-eyes-accused-quack-dr-oz-for-coronavirus-and-hydroxychloroquine-advice
Daily Beast is a foaming mouthed mad dog leftist site. Whatever points you think it gave you,
for all that's worth, your use of partisan hacks to back up your red herring posts (the issue of what Dr. Oz thinks of the hydroxycloraquine medicine is irrelevant in the larger picture) robs you of any real authority here anyway.

Donnie has never sought the advice from ANY doctor who wasn't a conspiracy theorist and/or Quack.

TrumpDoc_NBC-645x645.jpg
:icon_rolleyes: Your use of hyperbole and overstatement makes about 95% of your posts worthless.
Your lack of knowledge and good judgment makes the rest pointless as well.

Ready for your swirly Blair? Your responses are as worthless as your OPs. Ta Da .. :bye1:
 

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