Seriously

Then can you solve for k @ 415 ppm? ...
Ah, yes. But all youā€™ll get is an expression
Thatā€™s a silly question. You still have two other unknowns and you didnā€™t say if 415 ppm was the initial or final concentration of CO2.
At least if youā€™re going to pretend to know math, pretend with more Information ....faker.

I assumed you knew the Earth's natural level of CO2 is 280 ppm ... that's the initial valve ... what the hell did you think I mean? ...
āˆ†T is of course the one degree C temperatures have increased since CO2 levels were at 280 ppm ...

I thought you said you knew a little something about this? ...

But okay .. what's the expression? ... and is it a function? ...
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
Actually water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG, dummy. :lol:

You are so ignorant on this subject that you probably don't even understand the greenhouse gas spectrum.

Look at the total spectrum and see which GHG has the biggest impact, dummy.

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didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
CO2 lags temperature, dummy.
 
And... you are an idiot.
And what does that make you if you canā€™t even make a point with a HS grad without embarrassing yourself.
I'm pretty happy with our exchanges. I can drop down to your level, but you can not rise up to mine.
Be careful. I never pretended to be anything but a humble middle class worker who values education and the American institutions Itā€™s asinine to pretend that science practiced in our institutions is not Responsible for the greatest ideas man has ever had.....
because they collectively are smarter then me or you or literally, any single person. Maybe, You, like Trump, feel smarter because why ? He passed a dementia test ? .
You are too stupid to be middle class.
 
And... you are an idiot.
And what does that make you if you canā€™t even make a point with a HS grad without embarrassing yourself.
I'm pretty happy with our exchanges. I can drop down to your level, but you can not rise up to mine.
Be careful. I never pretended to be anything but a humble middle class worker who values education and the American institutions Itā€™s asinine to pretend that science practiced in our institutions is not Responsible for the greatest ideas man has ever had.....
because they collectively are smarter then me or you or literally, any single person. Maybe, You, like Trump, feel smarter because why ? He passed a dementia test ? .
You are too stupid to be middle class.
And this stupid person had to spend three posts correcting your utterances.
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
CO2 lags temperature, dummy.
ā€œLogrythmā€ is a lumberjacks form of birth control. ā€œLogarithmicā€ is an exponential function.
At least know the difference before you pretend to be smarter then we dummies.
 
Then can you solve for k @ 415 ppm? ...
Ah, yes. But all youā€™ll get is an expression
Thatā€™s a silly question. You still have two other unknowns and you didnā€™t say if 415 ppm was the initial or final concentration of CO2.
At least if youā€™re going to pretend to know math, pretend with more Information ....faker.

I assumed you knew the Earth's natural level of CO2 is 280 ppm ... that's the initial valve ... what the hell did you think I mean? ...
āˆ†T is of course the one degree C temperatures have increased since CO2 levels were at 280 ppm ...

I thought you said you knew a little something about this? ...

But okay .. what's the expression? ... and is it a function? ...
This all you need to know.
The Last Time CO2 Was This High, Humans Didnā€™t Exist
Stop pretending you know anything irrelevant and asking stupid unrelated questions. Youā€™re as big a fraud as our resident claimed engineer.
 
Then can you solve for k @ 415 ppm? ...
Ah, yes. But all youā€™ll get is an expression
Thatā€™s a silly question. You still have two other unknowns and you didnā€™t say if 415 ppm was the initial or final concentration of CO2.
At least if youā€™re going to pretend to know math, pretend with more Information ....faker.

I assumed you knew the Earth's natural level of CO2 is 280 ppm ... that's the initial valve ... what the hell did you think I mean? ...
āˆ†T is of course the one degree C temperatures have increased since CO2 levels were at 280 ppm ...

I thought you said you knew a little something about this? ...

But okay .. what's the expression? ... and is it a function? ...
Fk you. Iā€™m not impressed you can copy and paste and pretend you know something you donā€™t.
Function ? Itā€™s doubtful you know what that means.
Youā€™re the third derivative of a position function.
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
Actually water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG, dummy. :lol:

You are so ignorant on this subject that you probably don't even understand the greenhouse gas spectrum.

Look at the total spectrum and see which GHG has the biggest impact, dummy.

View attachment 366901
Stick to copy and pasting. It minimizes the mistakes you make.
If you can read, read this. It makes your little assertions silly.
 
Leading organizations involved in climate change research, policy making and education
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) - Climate Change Science
This section of the EPA website offers scientific information and data on climate change in the past and projections for the future. Specific information about the U.S. government's role in conducting and evaluating science as well as EPA's role in these efforts can be found on the Climate Change Science Program and EPA Research and Assessment pages in the Policy section.

NOAA Education - Climate Change and Our Planet
This collection of resources from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) are designed for teachers to use in the classroom or as background reference material.

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was established by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to provide objective reports on climate change and its potential environmental and socio-economic consequences. Geography has played a central role in the IPCCā€™s activities. Dr. Thomas Wilbanks, past president of the AAG and recipient of numerous honors in the field of geography, served as lead author of a chapter of the Fourth Assessment Report which was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2007.

National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
NCAR provides the university science and teaching community with the tools, facilities, and support required to perform innovative research. Through NCAR, scientists gain access to high-performance computational and observational facilities, such as supercomputers, aircraft and radar - resources researchers need to improve human understanding of atmospheric and Earth system processes. NCAR also houses the Geographical Information Systems (GIS) Strategic Initiative, an interdisciplinary effort to foster collaborative science, spatial data interoperability, and knowledge sharing with GIS, within the field of atmospheric research.

Center for Remote Sensing of Ice Sheets (CReSIS)
CReSIS was established by the NSF in 2005 and is headquartered at the University of Kansas. The Center uses a variety of geographic tools and technologies (including Geographic Information Systems, Remote Sensing, and spatial statistics) to complement its goal of measuring and predicting the response of sea level change to the mass balance of ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica.

National Climate Data Center (NCDC)
NCDC is the world's largest active archive of weather data. NCDC produces numerous climate publications and responds to data requests from all over the world.

World Meteorological Organization
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) is a specialized agency of the United Nations. It is the UN system's authoritative voice on the state and behavior of the Earth's atmosphere, its interaction with the oceans, the climate it produces and the resulting distribution of water resources.

United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), Climate Change
The UNEP Climate Change website serves as a gateway to UNEP activities related to adaptation, mitigation, science, and communication/outreach on the effects of climate change, as well as programs to reduce emissions from deforestation and degradation of ecosystems.

United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)
The UNFCCC supports UN bodies involved in the climate change process. This UNFCCC website contains numerous resources, such as introductory and in-depth publications, the official UNFCCC and Kyoto Protocol texts and a search engine to the UNFCCC library.

Pew Center on Global Climate Change
The Pew Center on Global Climate Change brings together business leaders, policy makers, scientists, and other experts to bring a new approach to a complex and often controversial issue. The Center conducts analyses of key climate issues, works to keep policy makers informed, engages the business community in the search for solutions, and reaches out to educate the key audiences.

Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) of the United Nations ā€“ Climate Change
FAO's activities in climate change are spread over all departments and cover all agricultural sectors (i.e. agriculture, livestock, forestry, fisheries) as well as highly cross-sectoral topics (e.g. bioenergy, biodiversity, climate risk management). The Interdepartmental Working Group on Climate Change and the Environment, Climate Change and Bioenergy Division (NRC) play an important role in coordinating these activities.

National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC)
The NSIDC supports research on snow, ice, glaciers, frozen ground, and climate interactions that make up Earth's cryosphere. Dr. Mark Serreze, NSIDC Director, has carried out significant geographic research on climate warning in the Arctic and its implications.

International Geosphere-Biosphere Programme (IGBP)
IGBP is a research programme that studies the phenomenon of Global Change. IGBP provides scientific knowledge to improve the sustainability of the living Earth. IGBP studies the interactions between biological, chemical and physical processes and interactions with human systems and collaborates with other programmes to develop and impart the understanding necessary to respond to global change.
This is a simple response not all the artifical text book copies, Climate Change look at the records of the past aws far as recorded History is staring in the 1400s. the earth has evolved through many wars and people, The avearge temp has rissen and Fallen per evey 50 years the temp todays ilike 1 degeree higher in this current 50 year cicle abot the same as 1400's we did not have 8 billion people in that time no airplanes, cumbustibel ingens, heat wa with dirty wood and coal all the hypie about Democrat sponsored Climate change is a proven false statement READ THE weather almanacs to see it if the Democrates are so worried about this then instead of Fling in Jets all over the world and limos for groung transportation and smoking cigars and cigarettes would sure help reduce the carbons in the air would it not
 
then instead of Fling in Jets all over the world and limos for groung transportation and smoking cigars and cigarettes would sure help reduce the carbons in the air would it not
Stooopid statement. You expect necessary traveling be done by wagon on horse back. A shill statement from Fix News. We travel the way we need to now.
 
Fk you. Iā€™m not impressed you can copy and paste and pretend you know something you donā€™t.
Function ? Itā€™s doubtful you know what that means.
Youā€™re the third derivative of a position function.

Haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw ... you have no idea how to solve that equation, even when I spoon feed you the known values ... because, what?, YOU didn't know them ... and that's why you rely on beauty college websites for your climate information ... hairdresser ...

Yes, you're too quick calling others ignorant, obviously trying to hide your own ignorance ... which we've now exposed ... your math isn't even wrong ...

C'mon now, little girl ... what's the expression for k and is it a function? ... I'm sorry you wet your knickers when you look at the equation:
āˆ†T = 5.35 k ln (CO2f/CO2i)
I know it's less important than whether plaid makes you butt look fat, but set aside your vanity for a bit and see if there's any grey matter left between the ears ...

(Yup, can always expose the suckers with a little high school algebra ... what great way to start my weekend) ...
 
Fk you. Iā€™m not impressed you can copy and paste and pretend you know something you donā€™t.
Function ? Itā€™s doubtful you know what that means.
Youā€™re the third derivative of a position function.

Haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw ... you have no idea how to solve that equation, even when I spoon feed you the known values ... because, what?, YOU didn't know them ... and that's why you rely on beauty college websites for your climate information ... hairdresser ...

Yes, you're too quick calling others ignorant, obviously trying to hide your own ignorance ... which we've now exposed ... your math isn't even wrong ...

C'mon now, little girl ... what's the expression for k and is it a function? ... I'm sorry you wet your knickers when you look at the equation:
āˆ†T = 5.35 k ln (CO2f/CO2i)
I know it's less important than whether plaid makes you butt look fat, but set aside your vanity for a bit and see if there's any grey matter left between the ears ...

(Yup, can always expose the suckers with a little high school algebra ... what great way to start my weekend) ...
Instead of going through life being relevant you weirdos try to play Gotcha questions because for the most part, youā€™re a bunch of losers. The first time around, you couldnā€™t even present a coherent problem, now youā€™ve crawled back in your hole, regrouped and gotten even farther of track.

ā€œwhat's the expression for k and is it a function? ā€œ huh ? Are you asking if k is function ( k is a constant);or is the original equation....? Geesus, now your English grammar is all fucked up.
You still canā€™t ask a question correctly that mathematically makes sense.
. Thatā€™s a wording problem because youā€™re math illiterate

ā€œ Yes, you're too quick calling others ignorant, ā€œ
Because you fuckin are.
So, you still donā€™t know what the third derivative of a position function is do you ? Look in the mirror for the answer.

You and the engineer better go play with your little toy trains.
 
Instead of going through life being relevant you weirdos try to play Gotcha questions because for the most part, youā€™re a bunch of losers. The first time around, you couldnā€™t even present a coherent problem, now youā€™ve crawled back in your hole, regrouped and gotten even farther of track.

ā€œwhat's the expression for k and is it a function? ā€œ huh ? Are you asking if k is function ( k is a constant);or is the original equation....? Geesus, now your English grammar is all fucked up.
You still canā€™t ask a question correctly that mathematically makes sense.
. Thatā€™s a wording problem because youā€™re math illiterate

ā€œ Yes, you're too quick calling others ignorant, ā€œ
Because you fuckin are.
So, you still donā€™t know what the third derivative of a position function is do you ? Look in the mirror for the answer.

You and the engineer better go play with your little toy trains.

I asked you to solve for k using known values of the others ... you don't know what these known values are in the first place ... however, you claimed you could solve for k with an expression ... I say, no, you can't ... we currently can't measure k, so we don't know if it's a constant or a gradient function ... and it absolutely doesn't matter, constants and gradients both form vector spaces ... the math is the same either way ...

This isn't some random equation I posted ... it's the very basis of AGW Theory ... the natural level of CO2 is 280 ppm ... man-kind has added 135 ppm by burning fossil fuels ... this raises the average temperature ... and this equation tells us how much in terms of climate sensitivity factor k ... we have been actively looking for a more exact and rigid expression to use in SB, but there doesn't seem to be one ... and you know how physicists are about mathematical proofs ... without this proof, AGW is strictly conjecture ...

So, you still donā€™t know what the third derivative of a position function is do you ?

I gave the answer that this is the instantaneous change in force with respect to time ... or more simply the change in acceleration with respect to time ...
For our position function r = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d ... we arrive at d^3r/dt^3 = 6a ...
Meteorology and climatology usually uses NS ... the difference in gravitation potential between sea-level and tropopause is trivial compared to the difference in pressure ... so it's easier to use NS when describing motion in the atmosphere ... a mole of air occcupies about a cubic foot of space at sea-level, I understand there's not that many cubic feet in the atmosphere but that's still one hell of a lot of arithmetic ...

.. and please change your knickers ... you're starting to smell like piss ...
 
say, no, you can't ... we currently can't measure k, so we don't know if it's a constant or a gradient function ... and it absolutely doesn't matter, constants and gradients both form vector spaces ... the math is the sam
K is the universal math term for constant of proportionality in math and physics doodle berry. Climate sensitivity . Itā€™s a constant. Itā€™s in your own original. You didnā€™t read it ?

Secondly nit wit, a position function is not necessarily a polynomial function as you Pretended to know. It can be any type. The first derivative is the change in position or rate function, the second is the acceleration which is a change in rate and the third which is change in acceleration, ( which you only stumbled onto after extraneous BS) is the JERK function.

Ha ha. All you had to do was look in the mirror. You must have just copied and pasted woo woo. What a joke.
You are a third derivative.....like most Humpers, JERKS.
 
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And... you are an idiot.
And what does that make you if you canā€™t even make a point with a HS grad without embarrassing yourself.
I'm pretty happy with our exchanges. I can drop down to your level, but you can not rise up to mine.
Be careful. I never pretended to be anything but a humble middle class worker who values education and the American institutions Itā€™s asinine to pretend that science practiced in our institutions is not Responsible for the greatest ideas man has ever had.....
because they collectively are smarter then me or you or literally, any single person. Maybe, You, like Trump, feel smarter because why ? He passed a dementia test ? .
You are too stupid to be middle class.
And this stupid person had to spend three posts correcting your utterances.
You didn't correct anything, dummy.
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
CO2 lags temperature, dummy.
ā€œLogrythmā€ is a lumberjacks form of birth control. ā€œLogarithmicā€ is an exponential function.
At least know the difference before you pretend to be smarter then we dummies.
That's a great response to CO2 lags temperature, dummy. As it literally has nothing to do with CO2 lagging temperature, dummy.
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
Actually water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG, dummy. :lol:

You are so ignorant on this subject that you probably don't even understand the greenhouse gas spectrum.

Look at the total spectrum and see which GHG has the biggest impact, dummy.

View attachment 366901
Stick to copy and pasting. It minimizes the mistakes you make.
If you can read, read this. It makes your little assertions silly.
You said, "There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant" which is false.

Water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG in the atmosphere, dummy.

See?

1595698989282.png
 
Fk you. Iā€™m not impressed you can copy and paste and pretend you know something you donā€™t.
Function ? Itā€™s doubtful you know what that means.
Youā€™re the third derivative of a position function.

Haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw ... you have no idea how to solve that equation, even when I spoon feed you the known values ... because, what?, YOU didn't know them ... and that's why you rely on beauty college websites for your climate information ... hairdresser ...

Yes, you're too quick calling others ignorant, obviously trying to hide your own ignorance ... which we've now exposed ... your math isn't even wrong ...

C'mon now, little girl ... what's the expression for k and is it a function? ... I'm sorry you wet your knickers when you look at the equation:
āˆ†T = 5.35 k ln (CO2f/CO2i)
I know it's less important than whether plaid makes you butt look fat, but set aside your vanity for a bit and see if there's any grey matter left between the ears ...

(Yup, can always expose the suckers with a little high school algebra ... what great way to start my weekend) ...
I had no problem using the formula. He's an idiot.
 
didn't say that. I said it doesn't drive climate change. It reinforces climate change. You think it drives it. And there is absolutely zero evidence for that. CO2 lags temperature because of CO2 sequestration of the ocean.
There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant, it increases with fossil fuel burning and it ACCELERATES the temperature rise. Yes, it drives climate change because ā€œthe rateā€ increase is more affected by CO2 Production then any-other gas.
Anyone who believes differently, take it up with NASA. And everyone else. But climate change deniers are in the minority and getting smaller in number. Theyā€™re is just so much a person can take being on the stupid side of the fence.
Actually water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG, dummy. :lol:

You are so ignorant on this subject that you probably don't even understand the greenhouse gas spectrum.

Look at the total spectrum and see which GHG has the biggest impact, dummy.

View attachment 366901
Stick to copy and pasting. It minimizes the mistakes you make.
If you can read, read this. It makes your little assertions silly.
You said, "There are many green house gasses in the atmosphere, some more effective then CO2. But, CO2 is the most abundant" which is false.

Water vapor is the most abundant and dominant GHG in the atmosphere, dummy.

See?

View attachment 367063
Thatā€™s logarithm
 

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