Revelation, who is going to be King of Jerusalem? Jesus or his Father?

Here is my take on the beasts, from historical, cultural, and literary contexts.

The horsemen of Chapter 9 may well have been a component of one of the beasts of Revelation 13. That chapter begins thus:

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. (Rv 13:1)​

This beast comes from the sea. A common assumption is that this is a sea monster (the only assumption possible from a literal perspective), but what is the sea? Is it water or is it something else? Like other nations, perhaps?

The sea, generically, refers to the Mediterranean Sea or Red Sea or generally any sea in the Middle East. In Isaiah 11:11, we read that a handful of Jews will reclaim their land from all their maritime oppressors. “In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant that remains of his people from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea.” Also consider Isaiah 60:5 and note that wealth comes from the sea—not from fishing but from nations around the sea:

Then you shall see and be radiant;
your heart shall thrill and exult,
because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you,
the wealth of the nations shall come to you.

Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers says that the abundance of the sea is the riches of the Western isles. Other commentaries call this seaborne wealth a wealth of maritime nations. Earlier in Isaiah, these foreign nations are referred to as the wilderness of the sea (21:1), or specifically in this case, according to Ellicott, as the nations of Elam and Media. Certainly wealth literally could be derived from any body of water; even in Israel, lakes and streams could be fished. When a beast comes from the sea, however, it is a foreign aggressor.

The first beast, then, the beast rising out of the sea, is a foreign aggressor, and the foreign aggressor in John’s lifetime is Rome, specifically the Tenth Legion in Jerusalem. While the Jews are held captive in Jerusalem and stricken with scarcity and starvation, the Romans are free to engage in commerce. In the city, kings, merchants, and shippers mourn, since they can no longer luxuriate in the formerly wealthy capital and since no one buys their cargo anymore (Rv 18:9-19). Meanwhile, outside the city, Romans continue to supply their troops. Some have ascribed the number of this beast to Nero, Rome’s mouthpiece (13:5) who was still emperor when the war started. Contemporary scholarship refutes this because the number of the beast is actually 616. Whatever the specifics, the ability to buy and sell remained the province and privilege of the Romans and to Jews who managed to escape their captors and find refuge with the other side. Allegiance to Rome was the hope of eating and surviving.

Israel, to the Israelites, of course, is their land, often referred to as the earth. The second beast, then, the beast rising out of the land, is Israel. This two-horned beast (13:11), history informs us, is comprised of two factions: that enraged and impulsive lot among the Israelites, the Zealots, and their similarly dispositioned allies the Idumeans.

Rome exercised authority over Judea (13:7), whose inhabitants were made to obey, or “worship,” Rome (13:12). The fury of the Zealots must have been palpable.

Around the turn of the millennium, Judaism was divided into four major sects under the Great Sanhedrin, or ruling religious council: the Sadducees, the higher priesthood and nobility who centered their authority on the temple; the Pharisees, who derived their authority from the Torah and Mosaic Law; and the Essenes, a peaceful group of ascetics. The fourth sect formed much more recently and diverged sharply from the other three. This sect of Zealots was a militant, anti-Roman splinter group on a quest to expel and kill Romans, and also Christians and moderate Jews and anyone else who ventured into Jerusalem and sympathized with Rome.

The Apostle Paul encounters some of these Zealots in Ephesus when they chase him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:9-11). A former Pharisee—of a more orthodox stock—and one not afraid to speak his mind, Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32). For indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and allowing their own temple to burn down.

Rome, seeking order in its domain (to maintain the Pax Romana of the era), and Israel, motivated largely by Zealot hatred of Rome, are the two principal players in the Jewish-Roman Wars. The beast from the sea and the beast from the land would engage each other in three major struggles that would last well into the second century. The first of the three major confrontations lasted from AD 67 to AD 70, and is the one that put an end to the cult of temple and ended the age as some of the apostles had anticipated. For these three and a half years, Christians fled while Zealots slaughtered moderate Jews and Roman soldiers.


ROLMAO----^^^^ utter BS For the record----the people who
would BEST be described as putting an end to the "CULT OF THE
TEMPLE" at that time------were not DA CHRISTIANS or DA ROMANS WHO IMPOSED Christianity-------but the Pharisees (aka zealots) ----the above construct is clearly VATICAN INSPIRED and
truly idiotic
themselves
 
Here is my take on the beasts, from historical, cultural, and literary contexts.

The horsemen of Chapter 9 may well have been a component of one of the beasts of Revelation 13. That chapter begins thus:

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. (Rv 13:1)​

This beast comes from the sea. A common assumption is that this is a sea monster (the only assumption possible from a literal perspective), but what is the sea? Is it water or is it something else? Like other nations, perhaps?

The sea, generically, refers to the Mediterranean Sea or Red Sea or generally any sea in the Middle East. In Isaiah 11:11, we read that a handful of Jews will reclaim their land from all their maritime oppressors. “In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant that remains of his people from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea.” Also consider Isaiah 60:5 and note that wealth comes from the sea—not from fishing but from nations around the sea:

Then you shall see and be radiant;
your heart shall thrill and exult,
because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you,
the wealth of the nations shall come to you.

Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers says that the abundance of the sea is the riches of the Western isles. Other commentaries call this seaborne wealth a wealth of maritime nations. Earlier in Isaiah, these foreign nations are referred to as the wilderness of the sea (21:1), or specifically in this case, according to Ellicott, as the nations of Elam and Media. Certainly wealth literally could be derived from any body of water; even in Israel, lakes and streams could be fished. When a beast comes from the sea, however, it is a foreign aggressor.

The first beast, then, the beast rising out of the sea, is a foreign aggressor, and the foreign aggressor in John’s lifetime is Rome, specifically the Tenth Legion in Jerusalem. While the Jews are held captive in Jerusalem and stricken with scarcity and starvation, the Romans are free to engage in commerce. In the city, kings, merchants, and shippers mourn, since they can no longer luxuriate in the formerly wealthy capital and since no one buys their cargo anymore (Rv 18:9-19). Meanwhile, outside the city, Romans continue to supply their troops. Some have ascribed the number of this beast to Nero, Rome’s mouthpiece (13:5) who was still emperor when the war started. Contemporary scholarship refutes this because the number of the beast is actually 616. Whatever the specifics, the ability to buy and sell remained the province and privilege of the Romans and to Jews who managed to escape their captors and find refuge with the other side. Allegiance to Rome was the hope of eating and surviving.

Israel, to the Israelites, of course, is their land, often referred to as the earth. The second beast, then, the beast rising out of the land, is Israel. This two-horned beast (13:11), history informs us, is comprised of two factions: that enraged and impulsive lot among the Israelites, the Zealots, and their similarly dispositioned allies the Idumeans.

Rome exercised authority over Judea (13:7), whose inhabitants were made to obey, or “worship,” Rome (13:12). The fury of the Zealots must have been palpable.

Around the turn of the millennium, Judaism was divided into four major sects under the Great Sanhedrin, or ruling religious council: the Sadducees, the higher priesthood and nobility who centered their authority on the temple; the Pharisees, who derived their authority from the Torah and Mosaic Law; and the Essenes, a peaceful group of ascetics. The fourth sect formed much more recently and diverged sharply from the other three. This sect of Zealots was a militant, anti-Roman splinter group on a quest to expel and kill Romans, and also Christians and moderate Jews and anyone else who ventured into Jerusalem and sympathized with Rome.

The Apostle Paul encounters some of these Zealots in Ephesus when they chase him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:9-11). A former Pharisee—of a more orthodox stock—and one not afraid to speak his mind, Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32). For indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and allowing their own temple to burn down.

Rome, seeking order in its domain (to maintain the Pax Romana of the era), and Israel, motivated largely by Zealot hatred of Rome, are the two principal players in the Jewish-Roman Wars. The beast from the sea and the beast from the land would engage each other in three major struggles that would last well into the second century. The first of the three major confrontations lasted from AD 67 to AD 70, and is the one that put an end to the cult of temple and ended the age as some of the apostles had anticipated. For these three and a half years, Christians fled while Zealots slaughtered moderate Jews and Roman soldiers.


ROLMAO----^^^^ utter BS For the record----the people who
would BEST be described as putting an end to the "CULT OF THE
TEMPLE" at that time------were not DA CHRISTIANS or DA ROMANS WHO IMPOSED Christianity-------but the Pharisees (aka zealots) ----the above construct is clearly VATICAN INSPIRED and
truly idiotic
themselves
Correct. The Zealots put an end to the cult of temple.
 
John of Giscala? Eh? Was he the one exiled to Patmos?

John was a very common name.

This John: JOHN OF GISCALA (Johanan ben Levi) - JewishEncyclopedia.com
You don't say.

My question, again, is what he has to do with Revelation.

This is the John who wrote Revelation.
You have a lot of explaining to do, especially since he was captured and imprisoned in Rome and not exiled to Patmos, and likely died before Revelation was written.

Well who do you think wrote the book of Revelation??
 
John of Giscala? Eh? Was he the one exiled to Patmos?

John was a very common name.

This John: JOHN OF GISCALA (Johanan ben Levi) - JewishEncyclopedia.com
You don't say.

My question, again, is what he has to do with Revelation.

This is the John who wrote Revelation.
You have a lot of explaining to do, especially since he was captured and imprisoned in Rome and not exiled to Patmos, and likely died before Revelation was written.

Well who do you think wrote the book of Revelation??
Hard to say. A Christian named John, of course.

Some say he was the Apostle John. Maybe, maybe not. Although the apostle was young when Christ was crucified and could still have been alive in the 90s, his gospel differs in some subtle ways from the apocalypse. The gospel is written in the third person; the apocalypse is not. In the gospel, John refers to himself as an apostle and not a prophet; in the apocalypse, John refers to himself to as a prophet and not an apostle. The author of the gospel seems to have a better grasp of the Greek than the author of the apocalypse does.

I don't know who this John was. Like I said, the name was quite common, and it doesn't matter in the scheme of things. The apocalypse completes the biblical narrative nonetheless.
 
You don't say.

My question, again, is what he has to do with Revelation.

This is the John who wrote Revelation.
You have a lot of explaining to do, especially since he was captured and imprisoned in Rome and not exiled to Patmos, and likely died before Revelation was written.

Well who do you think wrote the book of Revelation??
Hard to say. A Christian named John, of course.

Some say he was the Apostle John. Maybe, maybe not. Although the apostle was young when Christ was crucified and could still have been alive in the 90s, his gospel differs in some subtle ways from the apocalypse. The gospel is written in the third person; the apocalypse is not. In the gospel, John refers to himself as an apostle and not a prophet; in the apocalypse, John refers to himself to as a prophet and not an apostle. The author of the gospel seems to have a better grasp of the Greek than the author of the apocalypse does.

I don't know who this John was. Like I said, the name was quite common, and it doesn't matter in the scheme of things. The apocalypse completes the biblical narrative nonetheless.

Going without food and being in a dark prison can make one a seer. Whoever wrote the book knew an awful lot about the old testament.
 
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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome,


666 is the number of a man, not a city.

666 refers to Solomon, the only man associated with that number in the entire bible, 666 being the exact number of talents of gold (25 tons) that he received yearly from the animal butchering in a temple scam treasury, not to mention tolls, taxes, and tributes.

I'm aware, so Solomon is the beast??



Yes.

Hashev who aspires to become the supreme butcher in a new temple bears the mark of the beast on his forehead and right hand..

In other words imposing Solomonic temple corruption is always on his mind which dictates his actions, binds his hand.

Instead of trying to understand the will of God for the benefit of the people he has been diverted by superstitious archaic lore inculcated through the magical arts, ancient egyptian sorcery, to rule over others and benefit himself.
 
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Thank you once again Hobe...I posted this before but I think it is appropriate to share it with everyone once again... You shot your idol Jesus once again by bringing up Solomon and the 666 talents of gold.. You got me thinking and apparently you are incorrect 666 is mentioned in one other place Ezra 2:13 where Adonakam and his 666 sons return... Now I would not find this very interesting accept According to the BDB theological dictionary and NOBSE study bible name list..The name Adonikam means and I Quote " my lord has risen"..Alfred Jones (dictionary of Old Testament proper names) This name Adonikam goes with the derivation meaning " adversary" and reads " Lord of Enemies" which fits Jesus to a tee as he is known as Lord... He is the Lord of Enemies which is Christianity and any others who accept him as their leader and it is taught that Jesus Rose or is the lord that is risen... It is always amazes me that when someone tries to fool with us that we get answers that hurt those who wish us harm... Thank you once again I will make sure this info tying Jesus to 666 further and deeper gets passed on to others....wink....


666,the number of the beast, (singular) is the number of a man (singular), so the sons of Adonikam have nothing to do with anything and does not refute in anyway that first century Jews opposed the corruption of temple worship imposed by Solomon.

This is ultimately led to the departure of the ten tribes once he died.

BTW, they were not lost, they just said fuck this shit and left to parts unknown.
You can never admit you are wrong Hobe It is the same message as Christians are symbolically sonsof Jesus their risen Lord and they too dispersed to the sea ( nations) to spread their word out there and they using your quote said fuck this shit and left for parts unknown after Jesus supposedly dies...


No, his followers deliberately uploaded malware into the belly of the scarlet beast (red heifer), to put the kibosh on the Gentiile nations of the Roman world.


"I have not come to bring peace but a sword." (Jesus H. Christ)

"Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; Such is the sword that I am sending among them.." Jeremiah 25:5

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations." Revelation 9:15


See?

All the pieces fit perfectly.
 
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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome,


666 is the number of a man, not a city.

666 refers to Solomon, the only man associated with that number in the entire bible, 666 being the exact number of talents of gold (25 tons) that he received yearly from the animal butchering in a temple scam treasury, not to mention tolls, taxes, and tributes.

I'm aware, so Solomon is the beast??



Yes.

Hashev who aspires to become the supreme butcher in a new temple bears the mark of the beast on his forehead and right hand..

In other words imposing Solomonic temple corruption is always on his mind which dictates his actions, binds his hand.

Instead of trying to understand the will of God for the benefit of the people he has been diverted by superstitious archaic lore inculcated through the magical arts, ancient egyptian sorcery, to rule over others and benefit himself.

Are you a Muslim:
A well known hadith states that the Beast will carry the Seal of Solomon and the Staff of Moses. He will mark the believers with the staff and the seal will mark the unbelievers.[3] A similar tradition attributed to Ibn al-Zubayr also describes the Beast carrying the Seal of Solomon, and describes the Beast as a chimera composed of the parts of various animals, including the head of a bull, the ears of an elephant, the horns of a stag, and the neck of an ostrich. It is described as a very large creature, with "a distance of twelve cubits" between each of its joints.[4]

More reputable ahadith say that the Beast will be one of the first signs of the Last Day, along with the sun rising in the west.[5] The appearance of the Dajjal, rising smoke, massacres, and widespread death are said to be other signs of the end times in a similar hadith.[6]
Beast of the Earth - Wikipedia
 
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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome,


666 is the number of a man, not a city.

666 refers to Solomon, the only man associated with that number in the entire bible, 666 being the exact number of talents of gold (25 tons) that he received yearly from the animal butchering in a temple scam treasury, not to mention tolls, taxes, and tributes.

I'm aware, so Solomon is the beast??



Yes.

Hashev who aspires to become the supreme butcher in a new temple bears the mark of the beast on his forehead and right hand..

In other words imposing Solomonic temple corruption is always on his mind which dictates his actions, binds his hand.

Instead of trying to understand the will of God for the benefit of the people he has been diverted by superstitious archaic lore inculcated through the magical arts, ancient egyptian sorcery, to rule over others and benefit himself.

Are you a Muslim:
A well known hadith states that the Beast will carry the Seal of Solomon and the Staff of Moses. He will mark the believers with the staff and the seal will mark the unbelievers.[3] A similar tradition attributed to Ibn al-Zubayr also describes the Beast carrying the Seal of Solomon, and describes the Beast as a chimera composed of the parts of various animals, including the head of a bull, the ears of an elephant, the horns of a stag, and the neck of an ostrich. It is described as a very large creature, with "a distance of twelve cubits" between each of its joints.[4]

More reputable ahadith say that the Beast will be one of the first signs of the Last Day, along with the sun rising in the west.[5] The appearance of the Dajjal, rising smoke, massacres, and widespread death are said to be other signs of the end times in a similar hadith.[6]
Beast of the Earth - Wikipedia
No. I am not muslim.

There are several beasts whose rise is mentioned in scripture.

The church is the woman drunk on the blood of Gods people who rides the scarlet beast of Rome who adopted the man beast ritualistic trickery and Solomonic methods of mind control that he learned from the practitioners of ancient Egyptian magical arts..
 
Josephus Book VIII , chapter 2.5

, For I have seen a certain man of my own countrey, whose name was Eleazar, releasing people that were demoniacal in the presence of Vespasian, and his sons, and his Captains, and the whole multitude of his soldiers: the manner of the cure was this: he put a ring that had a root of one of those sorts mentioned by Solomon to the nostrils of the demoniack: after which he drew out the demon through his nostrils: and when the man fell down immediately, he abjured him to return into him no more: making still mention of Solomon, and reciting the incantations which he composed. And when Eleazar would persuade and demonstrate to the spectators that he had such a power, he set a little way off a cup or bason full of water, and commanded the demon, as he went out of the man, to overturn it; and thereby to let the spectators know that he had left the man. And when this was done, the skill and wisdom of Solomon was shewed very manifestly. For which reason it is, that all men may know the vastness of Solomon’s abilities, and how he was beloved of God, and that the extraordinary virtues of every kind with which this King was endowed, may not be unknown to any people under the sun; for this reason, I say, it is, that we have proceeded to speak so largely of these matters.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-8.html
 
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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome,


666 is the number of a man, not a city.

666 refers to Solomon, the only man associated with that number in the entire bible, 666 being the exact number of talents of gold (25 tons) that he received yearly from the animal butchering in a temple scam treasury, not to mention tolls, taxes, and tributes.

I'm aware, so Solomon is the beast??



Yes.

Hashev who aspires to become the supreme butcher in a new temple bears the mark of the beast on his forehead and right hand..

In other words imposing Solomonic temple corruption is always on his mind which dictates his actions, binds his hand.

Instead of trying to understand the will of God for the benefit of the people he has been diverted by superstitious archaic lore inculcated through the magical arts, ancient egyptian sorcery, to rule over others and benefit himself.

Are you a Muslim:
A well known hadith states that the Beast will carry the Seal of Solomon and the Staff of Moses. He will mark the believers with the staff and the seal will mark the unbelievers.[3] A similar tradition attributed to Ibn al-Zubayr also describes the Beast carrying the Seal of Solomon, and describes the Beast as a chimera composed of the parts of various animals, including the head of a bull, the ears of an elephant, the horns of a stag, and the neck of an ostrich. It is described as a very large creature, with "a distance of twelve cubits" between each of its joints.[4]

More reputable ahadith say that the Beast will be one of the first signs of the Last Day, along with the sun rising in the west.[5] The appearance of the Dajjal, rising smoke, massacres, and widespread death are said to be other signs of the end times in a similar hadith.[6]
Beast of the Earth - Wikipedia
No. I am not muslim.

There are several beasts whose rise is mentioned in scripture.

The church is the woman drunk on the blood of Gods people who rides the scarlet beast of Rome who adopted the man beast ritualistic trickery and Solomonic methods of mind control that he learned from the practitioners of ancient Egyptian magical arts..

So who is God in the Book of Revelations??
 
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666 is the number of a man, not a city.

666 refers to Solomon, the only man associated with that number in the entire bible, 666 being the exact number of talents of gold (25 tons) that he received yearly from the animal butchering in a temple scam treasury, not to mention tolls, taxes, and tributes.

I'm aware, so Solomon is the beast??



Yes.

Hashev who aspires to become the supreme butcher in a new temple bears the mark of the beast on his forehead and right hand..

In other words imposing Solomonic temple corruption is always on his mind which dictates his actions, binds his hand.

Instead of trying to understand the will of God for the benefit of the people he has been diverted by superstitious archaic lore inculcated through the magical arts, ancient egyptian sorcery, to rule over others and benefit himself.

Are you a Muslim:
A well known hadith states that the Beast will carry the Seal of Solomon and the Staff of Moses. He will mark the believers with the staff and the seal will mark the unbelievers.[3] A similar tradition attributed to Ibn al-Zubayr also describes the Beast carrying the Seal of Solomon, and describes the Beast as a chimera composed of the parts of various animals, including the head of a bull, the ears of an elephant, the horns of a stag, and the neck of an ostrich. It is described as a very large creature, with "a distance of twelve cubits" between each of its joints.[4]

More reputable ahadith say that the Beast will be one of the first signs of the Last Day, along with the sun rising in the west.[5] The appearance of the Dajjal, rising smoke, massacres, and widespread death are said to be other signs of the end times in a similar hadith.[6]
Beast of the Earth - Wikipedia
No. I am not muslim.

There are several beasts whose rise is mentioned in scripture.

The church is the woman drunk on the blood of Gods people who rides the scarlet beast of Rome who adopted the man beast ritualistic trickery and Solomonic methods of mind control that he learned from the practitioners of ancient Egyptian magical arts..

So who is God in the Book of Revelations??


God is God. Jesus is the first and last. The first to be raised from the dead, and the last to be raised from the dead because after he appears a second time, death will be no more.

There will be no more curse. (Revelation 22:3)
 
Thank you once again Hobe...I posted this before but I think it is appropriate to share it with everyone once again... You shot your idol Jesus once again by bringing up Solomon and the 666 talents of gold.. You got me thinking and apparently you are incorrect 666 is mentioned in one other place Ezra 2:13 where Adonakam and his 666 sons return... Now I would not find this very interesting accept According to the BDB theological dictionary and NOBSE study bible name list..The name Adonikam means and I Quote " my lord has risen"..Alfred Jones (dictionary of Old Testament proper names) This name Adonikam goes with the derivation meaning " adversary" and reads " Lord of Enemies" which fits Jesus to a tee as he is known as Lord... He is the Lord of Enemies which is Christianity and any others who accept him as their leader and it is taught that Jesus Rose or is the lord that is risen... It is always amazes me that when someone tries to fool with us that we get answers that hurt those who wish us harm... Thank you once again I will make sure this info tying Jesus to 666 further and deeper gets passed on to others....wink....


666,the number of the beast, (singular) is the number of a man (singular), so the sons of Adonikam have nothing to do with anything and does not refute in anyway that first century Jews opposed the corruption of temple worship imposed by Solomon.

This is ultimately led to the departure of the ten tribes once he died.

BTW, they were not lost, they just said fuck this shit and left to parts unknown.
You can never admit you are wrong Hobe It is the same message as Christians are symbolically sonsof Jesus their risen Lord and they too dispersed to the sea ( nations) to spread their word out there and they using your quote said fuck this shit and left for parts unknown after Jesus supposedly dies...


No, his followers deliberately uploaded malware into the belly of the scarlet beast (red heifer), to put the kibosh on the Gentiile nations of the Roman world.


"I have not come to bring peace but a sword." (Jesus H. Christ)

"Take from my hand this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; Such is the sword that I am sending among them.." Jeremiah 25:5

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations." Revelation 9:15


See?

All the pieces fit perfectly.

The "sword" is the Word.
 
Jesus ( a jew) or the Father of Jesus, the Jewish God?? The book of Revelation is said to be wrote by John.

Rev 1

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The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,a

snip

4 grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,c 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us* from our sins by his blood,d 6who has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father, to him be glory and power forever [and ever]. Amen.

Rev 3
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Behold, I will make those of the assembly of Satan who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying, behold I will make them come and fall prostrate at your feet, and they will realize that I love you.e

Rev 21

2 I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


John of Giscala - you can read about John here, a prisoner in Rome.

JOHN OF GISCALA (Johanan ben Levi) - JewishEncyclopedia.com

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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome, so actually you are describing Rome, which began the religion of Christianity. The Roman empire legalized Christianity. Without Rome you would not have Christianity.
you like all HUmanity including the masses of unilluminated christians have zero clue what is going on in the Book of Revelation.
 
Jesus ( a jew) or the Father of Jesus, the Jewish God?? The book of Revelation is said to be wrote by John.

Rev 1

1
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,a

snip

4 grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,c 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us* from our sins by his blood,d 6who has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father, to him be glory and power forever [and ever]. Amen.

Rev 3
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Behold, I will make those of the assembly of Satan who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying, behold I will make them come and fall prostrate at your feet, and they will realize that I love you.e

Rev 21

2 I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


John of Giscala - you can read about John here, a prisoner in Rome.

JOHN OF GISCALA (Johanan ben Levi) - JewishEncyclopedia.com

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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome, so actually you are describing Rome, which began the religion of Christianity. The Roman empire legalized Christianity. Without Rome you would not have Christianity.
you like all HUmanity including the masses of unilluminated christians have zero clue what is going on in the Book of Revelation.

Revelations says it is written by John, your companion in the Tribulation, to the Seven Churches about what happened within 40 years of the crucifixion.
 
Jesus ( a jew) or the Father of Jesus, the Jewish God?? The book of Revelation is said to be wrote by John.

Rev 1

1
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,a

snip

4 grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,c 5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us* from our sins by his blood,d 6who has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father, to him be glory and power forever [and ever]. Amen.

Rev 3
9
Behold, I will make those of the assembly of Satan who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying, behold I will make them come and fall prostrate at your feet, and they will realize that I love you.e

Rev 21

2 I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


John of Giscala - you can read about John here, a prisoner in Rome.

JOHN OF GISCALA (Johanan ben Levi) - JewishEncyclopedia.com

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also 666 , aka known as the beast is Rome and the emperors of Rome, so actually you are describing Rome, which began the religion of Christianity. The Roman empire legalized Christianity. Without Rome you would not have Christianity.
you like all HUmanity including the masses of unilluminated christians have zero clue what is going on in the Book of Revelation.
I was an illuminated Christian before I became an unilluminated one.
 
Revelation 1:9
“I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

King James Version (KJV)
 
Revelation 1:9
“I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

King James Version (KJV)
Funny how some 1,950 years ago, the Revelator wrote in the present tense of the tribulation, and yet how so many Christians think the tribulation was to be a future event.
 

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