Replacing Teachers

[P@triot]

How would you like them to do that? Tie them to their chair?

By being the ******* adults in the room, instead of the affirmation-needing toddlers.

And by the way, all 50 states permit schools to physically restrain students if their safety is at imminent risk. Like, say for instance, oh I don't know, if a mentally retarded child wanders away and into traffic. Idiot.

My God, man, (woman, it, whatever you are), think for a minute! I was an assistant principal of a high school with over 3200 students. Don't you think I know what teachers can and cannot do?

You clearly do not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, they did, dumb ass. Because students cannot just leave the building whenever they want. Just stop posting already. You are sounding so idiotic with your 1948 views on public schools.

It's changed since you retired 39 years ago, chief.

Yep, and the idiot teachers didn't protect him. He wouldn't have even been outside if not for teacher indoctrination.

Bullshit! Who is going to stop them? You cannot even touch a kid unless they become a danger to themselves or others! Walking off campus with a group doesn't meet that requirement. Once they leave the campus, they are out of the school's jurisdiction. The parent was notified he was no longer at the school. That's where it ends.

What you don't seem to realize I went through this as a teacher and administrator many times. I retired from teaching in 2018 to go to work for the Army because the state was trying to steal my retirement from out from under me. 39 years ago, I was an officer in the United States Navy.

You are just a never-ending fountain of bullshit. Seek help!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

By being the ******* adults in the room, instead of the affirmation-needing toddlers.

And by the way, all 50 states permit schools to physically restrain students if their safety is at imminent risk. Like, say for instance, oh I don't know, if a mentally retarded child wanders away and into traffic. Idiot.

You clearly do not.

Not off campus they do not! If a kid wants to walk off campus, you can do absolutely nothing to physically restrain them. Teachers have gone to jail and been sued for far less. I took eductional law in graduate school. I even passed the tests to be licensed up to a school superintendent. What have you done?

Just more bullshit you are spouting not knowing the real truth!

 

[Winco]

It's called video, you dinosaur. Through the magic we call cell phones, the internet, and social media.

It's the teacher's responsibility to make sure they don't walk off of campus in the first place

Why has this poster avoided my questions?

 

[MarathonMike]

Homeschooling = the ultimate in self-selection. More power to them. Remote learning = disaster. Failed experiment.

It can be a disaster or it can work out really well. I've seen both results. But when I've seen it work out really well, the home schooled kids had many out of home social outlets via music, sports, church, etc.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It can be a disaster or it can work out really well. I've seen both results. But when I've seen it work out really well, the home schooled kids had many out of home social outlets via music, sports, church, etc.

Very true. But are the disasters worth the cost to society?

 

[Winco]

It can be a disaster or it can work out really well. I've seen both results. But when I've seen it work out really well, the home schooled kids had many out of home social outlets via music, sports, church, etc.

Seriously, how many homeschool students do you actually socialize with?

 

[Lockback]

It can be a disaster or it can work out really well. I've seen both results. But when I've seen it work out really well, the home schooled kids had many out of home social outlets via music, sports, church, etc.

Same here.
It's really up to the parents and how they handle it.

 

[MarathonMike]

Seriously, how many homeschool students do you actually socialize with?

I have known several parents of children who were home schooled. Even in that small sample size, the results ran the spectrum of terrific to disaster.

 

[Winco]

I have known several parents of children who were home schooled. Even in that small sample size, the results ran the spectrum of terrific to disaster.

I agree.

In my last 20 years, I taught Middle school.

Many homeschoolers would return to public school because the parent(s) were not able to teach the basic math skills.
When they returned, they were years below grade level.

That said, they are many homeschoolers with fit parents that taught their children well, and those students never had a need to return to public school, because, once again, those parents did a great job.

 

[MarathonMike]

I agree.

In my last 20 years, I taught Middle school.

Many homeschoolers would return to public school because the parent(s) were not able to teach the basic math skills.
When they returned, they were years below grade level.

That said, they are many homeschoolers with fit parents that taught their children well, and those students never had a need to return to public school, because, once again, those parents did a great job.

I appreciate you sharing your experience. I do think the kids need the social experiences nearly as much as the educational teaching.

 

[Jarlaxle]

No I didn't. Didn't even remotely imply something that stupid. You either suffer from a reading comprehension problem or you are confusing me with someone else's posts.

There is another, and likely correct, conclusion: he's simply lying.

You guys sure are doing a bang-up job there, Tory!

What. The. ****.

I agree.

In my last 20 years, I taught Middle school.

Many homeschoolers would return to public school because the parent(s) were not able to teach the basic math skills.
When they returned, they were years below grade level.

That said, they are many homeschoolers with fit parents that taught their children well, and those students never had a need to return to public school, because, once again, those parents did a great job.

Sure, kid. Whatever you say. In the real world, homeschoolers GREATLY outperform public school students.

 

[Winco]

There is another, and likely correct, conclusion: he's simply lying.



What. The. ****.



Sure, kid. Whatever you say. In the real world, homeschoolers GREATLY outperform public school students.

My experience says otherwise.
So provide some proof with a link.

 

[Jarlaxle]

My experience says otherwise.
So provide some proof with a link.

I'm sure you'll ignore links that show you're wrong, but sure.

Public School vs Home School (2025): A Data-Driven Comparison

What does the data say about comparisons between homeschool vs public schools? Which one is objectively better?

eduww.net

Harvard study: New Harvard Study: Homeschoolers Turn Out Happy, Well-Adjusted, and Engaged

Homeschool Academic Achievement Fact Sheet | National Home Education Research Institute

nheri.org

 

[Montrovant]

There is another, and likely correct, conclusion: he's simply lying.



What. The. ****.



Sure, kid. Whatever you say. In the real world, homeschoolers GREATLY outperform public school students.

Assuming that is true, do you think it is because homeschooling is inherently better? Because homeschooled children tend to have more involved parents/guardians? Because homeschool families tend to be on average wealthier?
Or some other reason or combination of reasons?

Also, do you see a distinction between homeschooling and remote learning (I think that’s where this began, with remote learning during COVID)?

 

[Winco]

I'm sure you'll ignore links that show you're wrong, but sure.

Public Schools: Must accept ALL students
Private Schools: $$$$ get you in.

So who is probably going to outperform who?

Homeschool Students: A mix of both.
I have a niece that married a pastor, both graduates of the same Public HS I taught at, very nice people. They have 6 children, and my niece Homeschooled all of them, but they did attend public school for certain classes.

I have also experienced HS students that come from a crappy background and failed.

Conclusion: It depends on the student and the parent.

 

[MarathonMike]

There is another, and likely correct, conclusion: he's simply lying.



What. The. ****.



Sure, kid. Whatever you say. In the real world, homeschoolers GREATLY outperform public school students.

As with many things, home schooling results vary case by case. That is the real world. Everything is not simply RIGHT/WRONG, BLACK/WHITE.

 

[P@triot]

Bullshit! Who is going to stop them? You cannot even touch a kid unless they become a danger to themselves or others! Walking off campus with a group doesn't meet that requirement.

The **** it doesn't

The moment they walk out of school, they are in immediate danger. Why the **** do you think all school doors are locked?!?

1. If they leave school without their parent's permission, that is a serious problem. What if the parent heads to the school in an emergency and they aren't there, stupid? Oops.

2. Outside, they could be the victim of a mass shooting, an abduction, a rape, an assault, or a zillion other crimes

3. There is a reason that schools are not allowed to leave CHILDREN unattended. These are not adults, you high school ******* dropout.

Once they leave the campus, they are out of the school's jurisdiction.

And I'll ask yet again for the like the 4th time, WHY THE **** WERE THEY PERMITTED TO LEAVE "THE CAMPUS"? Truancy is against the law. For someone who claims to have run schools, it's shocking that you've been 100% wrong every time you've posted.

You keep desperately trying to talk about "oNcE tHeY lEaVe ThE cAmPuS" because you KNOW you are WRONG. Stop trying to draw attention away from the issue, ass-clown. Answer the ****'n question, you disingenuous tool trying to avoid the facts.

 

[P@triot]

What you don't seem to realize I went through this as a teacher and administrator many times. I retired from teaching in 2018 to go to work for the Army because the state was trying to steal my retirement from out from under me. 39 years ago, I was an officer in the United States Navy.

What you don't seem to realize is that you've been 100% wrong every time you've posted, exposing you as a liar. Nobody could be a "teacher" and/or "administrator" and not know a single damn thing about any of this.

"Yeah, you're supposed to let all CHILDREN just wander off whenever they want. And then, when they leave 'the campus' you can just claim jurisdiction"

FFS, do you have any idea how stupid you sound?!?

No, ass clown, schools are not supposed to let children wander off unattended. They are children. And you're an idiot who clearly never spent a single second in education.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

we interrupt this chatter for an important message from your local Patriots Camp......

All I know is.....

Now that the SCOTOUS nullified the 4th Amendment, watch for gun buy backs popping up all over Murika.
These will be "For Community safety" and feature a "NO QUESTIONS ASKED POLICY"

Meaning they will be encouraging the dregs of society to break into your home (optionally killing you and your family), to get a payday for your firearms at the local government sponsored buy back.

These criminals will be paid your tax money to do this and will never be questioned about where they came from regardless of how many they turn in. This will go on for some time leaving many tens of thousands dead but lots of weapons turned in.
A Win Win for the elite establishment power brokers.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled useless banter......