Connecticut adopts homeschool regulation over staunch objection from GOP

[1srelluc]

Ok...I buy most of that...however...many home-schooling parents are actually 'no-schooling' parents whose neglect of their children's education and well-being is not being addressed.
The schools are our safety net...abusers who wish to isolate their victims love home-schooling.

You must be talking about city Learing Centers.

 

[HikerGuy83]

From these two tidbits it is clear that what Ray is measuring is not a homeschooling effect but a sociological effect of stable, two-parent, middle-to-upper-middle class, white families whose parents are deeply committed to their children’s well-being. Children with advantages like this are going to shine no matter what kind of schooling they get.

And there you have it.

Thanks for making my point.

Your's isn't a rebuttal as much as it is an admission.

And more homeschooling is done for these kinds of kids as is proven in the studies and even the rebuttals.

So why is Connecticut ******* with homeschooling when they should be fixing schools and more to the point parents.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The OP opposes what I would consider reasonable legislation that insures our children are being taught by somewhat competent individuals that aren't under investigation for child abuse.

And yes, I see it as a sign of weakness if someone tries to shelter their children from opposing viewpoints. I prepare mine to confront them.

I do believe that you have misread the OP. It is NOT pro-homeschooling--nor is it anti- It is just plugging the holes in the public safety net that all children should be a part of.
It definity does not oppose the legislation in question, it supports it..as do I.

I am anti-home schooling...because I feel it isolates the child from their peers, is often inadequate--and often is devoid of oversight.


The OP simply is in favor of said oversight.

 

[HikerGuy83]

This thread is not about learning though..it's about protecting the kids from potential abuse--and making sure that homeschooling is not shorthand for little or no schooling.

It's this kind of statement that would make me want to homeschool my kids so they don't turn out as stupid as you appear to be.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The OP simply is in favor of said oversight.

Yes, let's further regulate the system that is working.

To fix it.

Unfreakingbelievable.

 

[Lockback]

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stfu & sit the f down.

No, commie lover.
I won't.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Oh, and hey....while were are in the process of "protecting children".

Let's let porn run crazy on the internet and phones where kids can get it no matter how hard parents work to stop it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

stfu & sit the f down.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Yes, let's further regulate the system that is working.

To fix it.

Unfreakingbelievable.

In Connecticut..it is NOT working..hence the need for the legislation.

Why would you object to making sure that caregivers are not abusers?
Teachers are subject to a background check..why not parents who wish to homeschool?
If it is good for teachers...should be good for parents--especially since far, far more abuse happens in the home then happens in school.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Oh, and hey....while were are in the process of "protecting children".

Let's let porn run crazy on the internet and phones where kids can get it no matter how hard parents work to stop it.

Has Jack S**t to do with the topic...but I agree...so?
Is it your point that by proposing one seemingly insoluble problem you can conflate with another...solvable one?

 

[HikerGuy83]

In Connecticut..it is NOT working..hence the need for the legislation.

As show by ? Didn't see that in your article.

Why would you object to making sure that caregivers are not abusers?

Because the government, especially a left wing fascist style one, isn't going to make sure of anything.

Teachers are subject to a background check..why not parents who wish to homeschool?

Now this is really why I don't trust public education.

You are saying parents who want to homeschool kids should be subjected to a background check.

Why not subject ALL parents to a background check.

What will a parent have to do to fail that check and what happens to the kids when that happens?

If it is good for teachers...should be good for parents--especially since far, far more abuse happens in the home then happens in school.

So parents who send their kids to public schools don't abuse their children.

Got it.

You want to root out abusers....start where it makes a difference.

Not home schooling.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Has Jack S**t to do with the topic...but I agree...so?
Is it your point that by proposing one seemingly insoluble problem you can conflate with another...solvable one?

It further points out the stupidity of your assertion this will somehow fix something.

That doesn't need to be fixed.......

All the while ignoring the other 8,000# gorillas in the room.

 

[Winston]

It's this kind of statement that would make me want to homeschool my kids so they don't turn out as stupid as you appear to be.

It appears that is what you have done, home schooled. That is your choice. But I fail to understand what the down side to this simple regulation is. If you are home schooling, then show up once a year and register, we want to make sure you are not some sex offender or something. Again, what is the down side, too hard to come into town. Fine, better, a home visit once a year, required.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It appears that is what you have done, home schooled.

Nope

It appears that is what you have done, home schooled. That is your choice. But I fail to understand what the down side to this simple regulation is. If you are home schooling, then show up once a year and register, we want to make sure you are not some sex offender or something. Again, what is the down side, too hard to come into town. Fine, better, a home visit once a year, required.

Why would you subject home school parents to this test and not parents of public school kids.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It appears that is what you have done, home schooled. That is your choice. But I fail to understand what the down side to this simple regulation is. If you are home schooling, then show up once a year and register, we want to make sure you are not some sex offender or something. Again, what is the down side, too hard to come into town. Fine, better, a home visit once a year, required.

Along with the same mandatory testing public school students are subject to, with the same standards applied.

 

[Winston]

As show by ? Didn't see that in your article.

Because the government, especially a left wing fascist style one, isn't going to make sure of anything.

Now this is really why I don't trust public education.

You are saying parents who want to homeschool kids should be subjected to a background check.

Why not subject ALL parents to a background check.

What will a parent have to do to fail that check and what happens to the kids when that happens?

So parents who send their kids to public schools don't abuse their children.

Got it.

You want to root out abusers....start where it makes a difference.

Not home schooling.

I hesitate to ask where you would look. Me, I would start with truancy. And from the Kentucky study, 2/3rds of students pulled out of public schools to be home school had truancy problems. Seems a logical place to start.

 

[Winston]

Nope

Why would you subject home school parents to this test and not parents of public school kids.

Public schools have a layer of protection. Teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, all could potentially spot abuse. Home schooled students don't have that safeguard.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Public schools have a layer of protection. Teachers, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, all could potentially spot abuse. Home schooled students don't have that safeguard.

That means nothing as far as this legislation is concerned.

And it has worked so well so far.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I hesitate to ask where you would look. Me, I would start with truancy. And from the Kentucky study, 2/3rds of students pulled out of public schools to be home school had truancy problems. Seems a logical place to start.

Often, here in Idaho--parents home school because they have difficult interactions with the school system..often about attendance, homework and curriculum.

Up North on the panhandle, MAGA/RWNJ central..the conflict is often ideological..like not agreeing with the teaching of evolution--or not giving enough, or any, attention to Creationism.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

That means nothing as far as this legislation is concerned.

And it has worked so well so far.

No and no.
That is PRECISELY why this legislation was enacted.