When people go on Medical Tourism, where do they go to? Socialized government run, state funded, hospitals? Or private pay-for-service Capitalist based hospitals? Of course they go to the Capitalist, private run hospitals. Socialism sucks. Their service and treatment are terrible. Cheaper.... sure.... but terrible.
If I said you could get free care, but you'll likely die, or expensive care, but you'll survive, which would you choose?
We know this answer. People in Canada mortgage their homes, to pay for quality treatment in the US. They have free care. But they forfeit the free care, to come here, and pay for care.
Any attempt to force people into a system of socialized government run state sponsored health care, is an attempt to doom people to death.
It's that simple.
Our government has had no problem legislating the force and will of greedy people and companies for a long time on the people. The thing is many people allowed it as they truly believe that the legislators had their best interest in mind.
After the last year of studying the whole of the medical aspects and with the full knowledge now that I could have fully avoided four surgeries in my life with the right treatment and care why would I want to spend money on incompetence of the medical system and depend on some scummy insurance company for my life decisions? I mean if that is what some people want for themselves I have no problem with that but I do have a problem with those who would demand that I accept their bad personal choices and pay for it too.
Give me an example of this "legislating the force and will of greedy people and companies"?
What do you mean by "I do have a problem with those who would demand that I accept their bad personal choices and pay for it too"?
Because that's what government paid for health care is. Every single time someone shoots up drugs, and gets a disease.... you pay for it. Every time someone smokes a cigarette, and gets lung cancer.... you pay for it.
Every bad choice by anyone anywhere in the country, you get to pay for out of your taxes.
Let's start here. I disagree with your lung cancer theory. I am not just talking someone taking drugs or screwing a street corner prostitute knowing there is a good chance of getting god knows what. You have people who give themselves over to being slaves with a ball and chain to a desk all day. They depend on someone else to raise their children, fix the meals they will pick up on the way home with no clue what is actually in that package whether it be viruses, fungus, bacteria or poisons. They get sick and go to the local doctor. That local doctor may not know shit but will take a wild guess at what is wrong with the person without ever testing anything or possible even send out a sample of blood or tissue and take a wild guess from whatever those results may be. The doctor is mainly interested in paying off those students loans and generally only learned a tad of whatever the flavor of the medical associations protocol for that year decided that they should learn so he takes his advice from the local pharmaceutical pusher to make out a prescription for that patient. The college that gave the doc their walking papers even though they knew that as a student the person was inferior to be in that position but they gotta keep up with having enough enrollment to pay for their expenses so that one passed anyhow. Another guy comes along that spent his life eating crappy food and lots of coke. He weighs 400 lbs heart is bad, diabetic and supported by $1,800.00+ of meds that the docs prescribed to keep him going. He still eats all the crap and just takes the shots for the crap he eats won't kill him. Now that guy has Medicare so it pays for the biggest share of the meds bill. He's addicted to the shit but unwilling to take necessary steps to improve his condition so he adds another twenty to thirty pounds on every few months and bitches when someone want come clean his house for ten bucks an hour because he can't. These stories could go on and on about peoples bad choices. It is not just limited to a few druggies but if you want to talk about druggies I could give you some juicy stories on that end I have observed over the years. How about a political leader that has such a fucked up family that all his prodigy either takes street drugs or meds to cope and you pay the bill for that as his connections make sure they got him covered. Your typical street junkies are not the ones collecting that type of welfare generally.
The whole system needs a revamp from top to bottom. Propaganda by the corporate's pushing crap needs to be stopped in its tracks. Instead the government goes after the people trying to get out real food and real help for people. There is not one speck of decent water to be found anywhere at this point as the feds and the states have allowed it to be polluted beyond comprehension by farming and other chemical industrial crap (Its okay Bush's invested in a good water source in South America**sarcasm intended**). Diseases aren't cured they are managed just like everything else for a profit. Commercial food in general has no real sustenance to it when you start looking at it. Chickens are the best example when you look into it. The bones are soft. Back when you would have never gave a dog a chicken bone as the bones could perforate their intestines. I don't need to spend millions on some dumb ass study to understand that is not normal and if the food is doing that type of shit to the chickens its pretty obvious it is doing the same thing to the people. A little common sense goes a long ways.
Too much to cover in it all and I won't go into the BS vaccine push.
You have people who give themselves over to being slaves with a ball and chain to a desk all day.
Nothing we're talking about, has anything to do with that. There are people in Japan who have all the free crap that you want here, and they still live like slaves with a ball and chain to a desk. In fact, they professional men who live in cubes during the week, and never go home. Look it up.
That's literally a choice of lifestyle. It's not our job, or governments job, to fix your lifestyle.
That local doctor may not know shit but will take a wild guess at what is wrong with the person without ever testing anything or possible even send out a sample of blood or tissue and take a wild guess from whatever those results may be.
That also happens everywhere in the world. That's not native to America, or any other country.
Further, we usually have the opposite problem. Doctors take dozens of redundant tests over and over, to prevent the possibility of them being sued for not doing a test.
That's one of the reasons our health care costs are so high. I went to three different doctors, and each one requested a blood sample for testing, and I finally said no... forget that. If the first 2 didn't show anything, then number 3 and 4, are a waste of my money.
The doctor is mainly interested in paying off those students loans and generally only learned a tad of whatever the flavor of the medical associations protocol for that year decided that they should learn so he takes his advice from the local pharmaceutical pusher to make out a prescription for that patient.
Bull
The college that gave the doc their walking papers even though they knew that as a student the person was inferior to be in that position but they gotta keep up with having enough enrollment to pay for their expenses so that one passed anyhow.
Bull
Now that guy has Medicare so it pays for the biggest share of the meds bill. He's addicted to the shit but unwilling to take necessary steps to improve his condition so he adds another twenty to thirty pounds on every few months and bitches when someone want come clean his house for ten bucks an hour because he can't.
That's my point. That right there is my point. If you demand socialized health care, every single lazy tub of lard in the country, you'll be paying for.
We had this guy in my family years ago. Alcoholic. Destroyed his wife and kids. And it was finally ruining his health. He went to the doctor over and over. The doctor did his best, but told him, if you don't stop you'll die. He kept drinking. He's dead now.
Who paid for that? He did. He worked, and paid for his own health care.
Under a gov-care system, YOU will.
Your typical street junkies are not the ones collecting that type of welfare generally.
I'm a low-wage worker. I am unfortunately around street junkies all the time. They put their name in at the temp agency, and get whatever they can, to collect a few bucks before they fall off the planet, and lose that job, and move on to the next.
I haven't met a single street junkie yet, that wasn't collecting government handouts.
They wouldn't survive if they didn't. They'd all die off.
They tell me they are collecting government funding. They are proud of it. We had a lady walk around the room asking people if they wanted to buy her SNAP card.
There is not one speck of decent water to be found anywhere at this point as the feds and the states have allowed it to be polluted beyond comprehension by farming and other chemical industrial crap
Really.... that would interest my relatives who live off well water up to this very day. In fact, there are tons of Amish around there, that would be shocked to know that the water they have been drinking for the last hundred years is toxic....even though their numbers of doubled over the last several decades.
Diseases aren't cured they are managed just like everything else for a profit.
Actually, the exact opposite has happened.
Back in the 1960s, after the Polio vaccine was created, the vaccine was sold for profit by different companies. They were sold to doctors, who in turn sold them at a profit, to customers.
It was because of the free-market capitalist profit motive, that the polio vaccine was spread across the entire country, and eventually in 1979, the US was declared polio free.
TODAY.....
Because of Medicare, Medicaid, and due to the Center for Diease Control (CDC), all of these, as well as other regulations and government agencies, all of them place price caps on vaccines.
The result is there is no profit. Because there is no profit, the number of vaccine suppliers in the US has drastically fallen. Only about three vaccine suppliers left, with the exception of flu vaccine suppliers.
If you remember for a number of years, we had massive flu vaccine shortages, and government upped the price for flu vaccines, so now we have 3 or 4 companies that only make one vaccine... flu.
But other than those areas were government relaxed the price cap, vaccines supplies have fallen.
Today, the only company that produces a Polio vaccine in the entire country... the country that the vaccine was created in.... is French company, Sanofi Pasteur.
But even though the vaccine is available here, few doctors buy them, and sell them to patients. Why? Well read for yourself.
Vaccines are Money Makers for Docs? | Immunize for Good
The truth is doctors often lose money on vaccines. A study published in the Journal Pediatrics shows that the costs of giving vaccines exceeded the amount that the insurers and health plans pay.
Doctors are losing money on vaccines. So many don't offer vaccines.
AFM: The polio-like illness paralyzing US children - CNN.com
And now.... Polio is coming back.
This is the reality. Capitalism works. Everything we have is due to capitalism. When you eliminate capitalism, the result is the return of all the dangerous illnesses we got rid of before.
