Read this democrats and realize people are waking up

[Concerned American]

This means that Trump himself has now doubled the cost of getting rid of illegal immigration.

What kind of twisted idiocy are you pushing. You create a problem that has to be addressed and then you whine when the cost of overcoming the problem THAT YOU CREATED is double what YOU CREATED. WTF, are you jealous? SMFH.

 

[Concerned American]

No, that is mostly untrue. Yes, they do make extra money using illegal immigrants but Trump (in an effort to help them) has taken away the government agencies that keep in control the abuses in price that they use. We no longer have any entities that can keep them in check, meaning that they will do everything they can to screw you and get away with it.

LOL, you're a fool. You advocate for disbanding ICE/CBP while you complain that there isn't enough enforcement to tackle the problem that you created with their removal.

 

[markef]

It is still OPINION and not a fact!!!!

Like I said, "when the Supreme Court agrees with Cruz", we can talk again about the subject.

The Supreme Court is more of AN EXPERT on the Constitution than Ted Cruz is.

Are you agreeing with the SCOTUS abortion and redistricting decisions?

Top Virginia Dem ‘Respects’ Supreme Court Decision Nixing Gerrymander While Others Fume​

Zachary LeemanMay 8th, 2026, 1:34 pm

 

[markef]

It is still OPINION and not a fact!!!!

Like I said, "when the Supreme Court agrees with Cruz", we can talk again about the subject.

The Supreme Court is more of AN EXPERT on the Constitution than Ted Cruz is.

There are good reasons for questioning the wisdom and logic of some SCOTUS 'experts.' I agree with Ted Cruz and hundreds of other saner experts on constitutional law.

According to sources, the moment came as Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson pressed an attorney defending state bans on transgender athletes in female competition, suggesting that preventing biological males who identify as female from competing on girls’ teams amounted to discrimination based on gender identity.

 

[markef]

are you aware of the FACT that 40-42% of our Agriculture industry is dependent on illegal immigrants?

That's nothing. Democrats rely heavily on the illegal immigrant vote to steal elections, likely more than a measly 40%.

 

[markef]

Do you then care about OUR Agriculture, Construction and Services industries? They rely on immigrants to do those jobs. Americans do not want to do those jobs, especially at the pay rate that is given to the immigrants.

Do you enjoy higher grocery prices, higher prices for homes, and higher prices for hotels and services that are already high (due to Trump actions) and that will go up even more if the illegal immigrants that work those are deported?

Business owners are still being charged with crimes for hiring illegals and you are saying hiring illegals is essential to our economic health. Saying lawlessness and lawbreaking is essential to our economic health is like saying we need illegal drug trafficking for our economic health.

 

[markef]

Yes, there are some extra costs involved as nothing is perfect, but the overall benefits overweigh the negatives.

Tens of billions of dollars are in fact needed to support illegal aliens and states are begging the US government to help fund that expense. Increased American taxes are also funding the care of illegals.

 

[markef]

??? nothing is EVER perfect. No, not all illegals have valid reasons for coming but that is why we have guidelines for allowing those that do have valid reasons to come, and the courts to decide whether they are valid.

Are you aware of this FACT?

Nationally, the overall grant rate for immigrants requesting asylum in U.S. Immigration Courts has dropped significantly, with judges ordering deportation in roughly 80% of completed cases. Of the cases where relief is actually granted, only about a third (around 30-40%) result in asylum, while others receive different forms of protected status.

This needs to be done through the courts................not Trump and ICE deciding this.

Trying cases through courts increases costs exponentially while clogging courts with decades of backlogs. Illegals cannot be tried in court because there is not enough time or money to deal with them all.

 

[markef]

you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but the fact is that these are not slaves (not forcibly forced to work and are paid at a rate they accept) and that Americans (mostly all except the rich) worry about affordability and ability to pay their bills and if asked about accepting immigrants that are not criminals to work here and keep their costs low, they will vote for that every time

Paying illegals to steal American jobs is illegal.

 

[markef]

why don't you complain about the rich that want more and want to pay less so they can make more profit. That is a REAL problem that has nothing to do with illegal immigrants

We do have a problem with greedy rich crooks like Ilhan Omar, B. Obama, H. Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Pocohontas Warren, Nancy Pelosi, and so many more.

 

[markef]

I am glad that you are now taking this conversation to a debate format (not just throwing opinions out there).

Your article says the following:

This chaos is also imposing record costs on Americans. Last year, FAIR published a report entitled the Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers. The study strives to illustrate the myriad of ways Americans pay for illegal immigration. Our estimate, which is a conservative one, is that Americans now pay $150.7 billion dollars annually due to illegal immigration. This figure represents a net cost. In terms of gross expenditures due to illegal immigration, we estimate that Americans pay $182 billion. Approximately $31 billion is received from illegal aliens in taxes, only 17 percent of the costs they create.

Okay, there is a high expense involved but to begin with, some expense will forever occur given that the world has an overpopulation that keeps on increasing and stopping all illegal immigration is not possible (no nation has been able to do it) while hunger, need to get away from oppressive governments where they and their families face death, and pure survival continues to happen.

In addition:

Under his second administration, President Trump has authorized approximately $170.1 billion in new funding for immigration enforcement and mass deportation efforts through the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (OBBBA) signed in July 2025. T

This means that Trump himself has now doubled the cost of getting rid of illegal immigration.

To all of this, I have stated that I am against criminals coming here and have also stated that what I am for is illegal immigrants that have requested asylum and that such action is to be decided by the courts, as the illegal immigrants that get to stay here. That is less than 20% of those that go through the legal process.

As such, your article loses much of its value given that what I have suggested will keep the costs lower than what the article stated and even more keep the costs down to the additional costs that Trump's anger and incompetence have brought upon us.

Nothing is ever perfect. Learn to live with that reality!

The answer to the illegal immigration problem is not exempting criminal immigrants from prosecution, raising new taxes to cover their care, allowing them to register and vote, or allowing them to steal American jobs, particularly those jobs formerly filled by poorer Americans.

 

[markef]

No, that is mostly untrue. Yes, they do make extra money using illegal immigrants but Trump (in an effort to help them) has taken away the government agencies that keep in control the abuses in price that they use. We no longer have any entities that can keep them in check, meaning that they will do everything they can to screw you and get away with it.

Perfect example of this is Trump himself that religiously states "buy American" but then he buys most of his products overseas and sells them to you at highly elevated prices, such as the Trump Bible that he buys from China for $3 and sells it here for $60. No one can control or stop them on that.

Here is another example of lack of control that we have here

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What does the fact that Trump's enemies constantly attack him in multiple ways have to do with flooding the country with illegals?

 

[markef]

they did that because of thisL

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Unlike the democrats, Trump did win elections by catering to voters.

 

[Luckyone]

Unlike the democrats, Trump did win elections by catering to voters.

Well, evidently he did it wrongly as his voters are so unhappy now as his approval rating among them has plummeted

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Voting Rights Act was a response to what happened in the South after Reconstruction.

SCOTUS is taking us back to a time when black people were excluded from political power by the white majority.

Are you saying that white democrats would never vote for a black candidate?

 

[Luckyone]

The answer to the illegal immigration problem is not exempting criminal immigrants from prosecution, raising new taxes to cover their care, allowing them to register and vote, or allowing them to steal American jobs, particularly those jobs formerly filled by poorer Americans.

You are not understanding the whole picture. Let me explain it. The world’s population is presently at 8.3 billion, of which 680 million are starving and 120 million are being persecuted in their countries with incarcferation or death being the end result if caught. All of this is growing more each day. Of those, 3 million are trying to come here every year, which is less than 4% of that number.

No country in this world is going to stop immigration happening because starvation and death are not options anyone is willing to accept.

This means that “no matter what Trump does, the costs of trying to stop it will be high.

What needs to be done is find ways to somehow benefit from this unavoidable and unstoppable situation which can be done by taking advantage of those immigrants that can add some.benefits.

There are NO good solutions.

 

[markef]

Well, evidently he did it wrongly as his voters are so unhappy now as his approval rating among them has plummeted

I don't trust polls. For example, consider this poll:

Well, evidently he did it wrongly as his voters are so unhappy now as his approval rating among them has plummeted

Polls cannot be trusted. Moody's had Hillary winning in 2016 by a large margin and we all know how badly that poll was off.

 

[markef]

You are not understanding the whole picture. Let me explain it. The world’s population is presently at 8.3 billion, of which 680 million are starving and 120 million are being persecuted in their countries with incarcferation or death being the end result if caught. All of this is growing more each day. Of those, 3 million are trying to come here every year, which is less than 4% of that number.

No country in this world is going to stop immigration happening because starvation and death are not options anyone is willing to accept.

This means that “no matter what Trump does, the costs of trying to stop it will be high.

What needs to be done is find ways to somehow benefit from this unavoidable and unstoppable situation which can be done by taking advantage of those immigrants that can add some.benefits.

There are NO good solutions.

Rich democrats are hypocrites. They claim to want to help the poor by tearing down national boundary walls, but they stop well short of tearing down their rich gated community walls.