Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

[gtopa1]

Don't include me in that equation. The whole idea of original sin is a bad joke. Being still held accountable for something your ancient ancestors did is totally absurd. It is simply one of the gimmicks of the religion.

Wow Stan; you've NEVER sinned at all. lmao

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Don't include me in that equation. The whole idea of original sin is a bad joke. Being still held accountable for something your ancient ancestors did is totally absurd. It is simply one of the gimmicks of the religion.

Why would I include you in anything? In fact I don't even consider you at all except the occasional post. Meh.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

I know the fairytale. The very idea we are to feel shame for our very existence in this world is ridiculous.

Being honest with yourself is NOT shame. It's being.....honest.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Ahhh, snakes!


and the Hebrews and others turned the snake from a life reaffirming thing, into another nasty Trump-like figure

Hmmm...so the "Snakes" (shamans etc) of the old religions taught love of God and all. Right.

Greg

 

[Stann]

Wow Stan; you've NEVER sinned at all. lmao

Greg

I'm only human, of course I've sinned but I refuse to give any credence to " original sin ". As I've said, it's a bad joke, a ploy of religion.

 

[fncceo]

and the criminals as then to this day are yet to be brought to justice

If you can find any live Romans, feel free to sue them.

 

[Stann]

Hmmm...so the "Snakes" (shamans etc) of the old religions taught love of God and all. Right.

Greg

I know that St. Patrick is given credit for driving the snakes out of Ireland. An easy feat anyone could do because there were no snakes there in the first place !

 

[gtopa1]

Are you now starting to segue into some antisemitic crap? And no, there is no language called “American.”

It is. Wait for it..................

Re 'Mercan. More an accent thing with some local idioms. "Linguistic Variety" I suppose.

British Library

www.bl.uk

Greg

 

[Stann]

It is. Wait for it..................

Re 'Mercan. More an accent thing with some local idioms. "Linguistic Variety" I suppose.

British Library

www.bl.uk

Greg

In the United States alone there are over 30 dialects of the English language. Worldwide there are 150 dialects of English spoken.

 

[gtopa1]

I know that St. Patrick is given credit for driving the snakes out of Ireland. An easy feat anyone could do because there were no snakes there in the first place !

Not since the last ice age evidently.

However, the "Snakes" could just be a way of saying "Druids". Interesting theory that one.

Greg

 

[irosie91]

And? If these people were even real.....who cares?

Some of the players were "real" by corroborating evidence. Caiaphas was real. He was a Sadducean roman appointee as "chief rabbi" of the Sanhedrin---considered in his own time and thru the ages as VERY EVIL. It is not clear if
"JUDAS" existed. Pilate existed---historically he crucified something like 2000
Pharissee Jews----the romans removed him from office for being too damned
inciteful----good move

 

[Unkotare]

A lot of people have some backasswards ideas about language.

 

[Stann]

Not since the last ice age evidently.

However, the "Snakes" could just be a way of saying "Druids". Interesting theory that one.

Greg

The natural religions were a favorite target for the Christians to attack.

 

[Stann]

Some of the players were "real" by corroborating evidence. Caiaphas was real. He was a Sadducean roman appointee as "chief rabbi" of the Sanhedrin---considered in his own time and thru the ages as VERY EVIL. It is not clear if
"JUDAS" existed. Pilate existed---historically he crucified something like 2000
Pharissee Jews----the romans removed him from office for being too damned
inciteful----good move

History is not an exact science, human interpretation of the facts varies greatly.

 

[irosie91]

History is not an exact science, human interpretation of the facts varies greatly.

try again---the history of the time was fairly well documented----the NT itself
is one of the documents albeit highly questionable

 

[Stann]

try again---the history of the time was fairly well documented----the NT itself
is one of the documents albeit highly questionable

I'm sure religious zealots of the time weren't prejudiced on what they reported. Right !

 

[Stann]

try again---the history of the time was fairly well documented----the NT itself
is one of the documents albeit highly questionable

The New Testament may be 99.5 % accurate but the information can still be very biased and any assumptions or interpretations of that data would also be. It would be very easy to exclude facts that conflict with the chosen story line.

 

[irosie91]

I'm sure religious zealots of the time weren't prejudiced on what they reported. Right !

to what "religious zealots" do you refer and to what "reports" do you refer?

 

[Stann]

to what "religious zealots" do you refer and to what "reports" do you refer?

Josephus for one, he totally embellished Ezekiel's account of Sodom and Gomorrah, making it a sensationalized tale of depravity and attempted to blame it all on homosexuality. When it was clearly about simple inhospitality.

 

[fncceo]

The New Testament may be 99.5 % accurate

It could, just as easily be 99.5% inaccurate.

There isn't a single primary or contemporary source to confirm that one way or another.